Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (37 Viewers)

[Deity]

The bedwetters should remember last summer when they went into melt down because we did nt sign Matty James only for us to sign Matty Grimes in January.

Don’t get me wrong id have liked another attacking player to have come in but it’s been a very positive summer.

 

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[AFCCOVENTRY]

I doubt we paid cash.

Bitcoin I heard!

 

[Gint11]

I'm sure he's coming to us after turning down Wolves .....

Absolutely. We are a much better club

 

[TomRad85]

There are good free agents let's not talk wet, but I would imagine the top ones on that list will be out of our wage range.

 

[shmmeee]

Bitcoin I heard!

Interest free for three months on Fraser Plus

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Insanity if we saw us the last two seasons and thought what we needed was fewer players of quality.

After sleeping on it.

We have the best right back in the league and another right back( who's pretty versatile) on the bench who would walk into more than half the teams in the league.

We have 3 absolute top quality centre backs. Top 6 material. Lats as back up isnt bad at all.

A better keeper than Wilson and Collins.

What's not to like.

Kept our best players. We will still likely have on the bench vs Norwich:

Simms
Asante
Eccles
Allen
Kane Hesler
Thomas
Bidwell
Wilson


That's a strong bench!

Not to mention arguably the best player in the league.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

So looking at our squad and squad size, we’ve got three spaces we can add.

Imagine the priority is a left winger, CM, and a ST (as assume Asante will be used on the RW now).

Tom Lawrence seems an obvious one, played under Lampard before and covers both EMC (right footed left winger) and Rudoni. Don’t imagine he wouldn’t fit within our wage budget and seems a quick fix to our wing depth.

 

[pusbccfc]

I doubt we paid cash.

Regardless of how we or who paid it, I definitely think it was a curveball.

Even before the stadium, it was pretty clear we needed to sell somebody before buying.

We've balanced the books nicely now. I know people won't like that because there's a clear desperation to get promoted.

 

[Liquid Gold]

*during window*
A- "Judge after the window"

*after window*
B - "The window was shit"
A - "What do you mean, you can't get signings done in just one day!!!!"

 

[Liquid Gold]

Regardless of how we or who paid it, I definitely think it was a curveball.

Even before the stadium, it was pretty clear we needed to sell somebody before buying.

We've balanced the books nicely now. I know people won't like that because there's a clear desperation to get promoted.

It wasn't a curveball, they'd have been working on it for months and King explicitly said that it wouldn't affect the transfer activity.

The reality of the situation is that we haven't had offers for our players we thought would materialise and we've not been able to get our targets over the line because of it.

 

[shmmeee]

Regardless of how we or who paid it, I definitely think it was a curveball.

Even before the stadium, it was pretty clear we needed to sell somebody before buying.

We've balanced the books nicely now. I know people won't like that because there's a clear desperation to get promoted.

The books will be interesting but as we saw with a decade of sisu ultimately meaningless and have no impact on the clubs success on the pitch. I don’t think it was but if you’re saying it was promotion or stadium IMO we made the wrong choice.

 

[pusbccfc]

It wasn't a curveball, they'd have been working on it for months and King explicitly said that it wouldn't affect the transfer activity.

The reality of the situation is that we haven't had offers for our players we thought would materialise and we've not been able to get our targets over the line because of it.

This is definitely true also.

 

[larry_david]

Love how we discuss free agents immediately after a window closes in pure panic.

Its like going back to work after Xmas and immediately looking to book the next week off in Jan because you dont wanna go back.

The reality is, you dont book that week off because why would you. And we wont sign some dross out of contract player because why would we and now the season is underway and we focus on the squad we have.

 

[Potbellypig]

After sleeping on it.

We have the best right back in the league and another right back( who's pretty versatile) on the bench who would walk into more than half the teams in the league.

We have 3 absolute top quality centre backs. Top 6 material. Lats as back up isnt bad at all.

A better keeper than Wilson and Collins.

What's not to like.

Kept our best players. We will still likely have on the bench vs Norwich:

Simms
Asante
Eccles
Allen
Kane Hesler
Thomas
Bidwell
Wilson


That's a strong bench!

Not to mention arguably the best player in the league.

When injuries, suspensions and being knackered hit, our bench looks like this...

Wilson
Bidwell
Allen
Lati
Andrews
Perry
Batanwi
Struggling with this last one (maybe Betjemann - seems like the most senior of the U21 players left)

 

[ccfc1234]

So looking at our squad and squad size, we’ve got three spaces we can add.

Imagine the priority is a left winger, CM, and a ST (as assume Asante will be used on the RW now).

Tom Lawrence seems an obvious one, played under Lampard before and covers both EMC (right footed left winger) and Rudoni. Don’t imagine he wouldn’t fit within our wage budget and seems a quick fix to our wing depth.

I remember he was good at Derby but what level is he at now?

This is an extract from the Scottish herald

"After three years at Ibrox, the 31-year-old has moved on at the end of his contract following a campaign in which he was a bit-part player.
Lawrence displayed his ability throughout his Gers spell but was never quite able to put it together consistently to become a key player, with injuries playing their part in that."

While I am not immediately against another Patterson type signing, I would personally prefer to put his wages and signing in fee (which as you say will not be cheap) towards a top quality addition to the team in the new year.

 

[pusbccfc]

The books will be interesting but as we saw with a decade of sisu ultimately meaningless and have no impact on the clubs success on the pitch. I don’t think it was but if you’re saying it was promotion or stadium IMO we made the wrong choice.

Really?

Everyone wants our season in the sun but most people have had the best 5 years supporting the club. It's great going up to the CBS with a full house and good match day experience. For me, I want to be competitive and have exciting seasons. The PL may happen, it may not.

I don't want us to go silly and gamble on automatic promotion. I certainly wouldn't change owning the stadium for promotion this season.

 

[Matt smith]

We have one of the best 11’s in the league

we just have to get through till January with what we have

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

I remember he was good at Derby but what level is he at now?

This is an extract from the Scottish herald

"After three years at Ibrox, the 31-year-old has moved on at the end of his contract following a campaign in which he was a bit-part player.
Lawrence displayed his ability throughout his Gers spell but was never quite able to put it together consistently to become a key player, with injuries playing their part in that."

While I am not immediately against another Patterson type signing, I would personally prefer to put his wages and signing in fee (which as you say will not be cheap) towards a top quality addition to the team in the new year.

I get that, I just think we need the cover on the wings now especially when so much of our system relies on it.

Personally would do a lot more business on the free agent side to build depth but I get the opinion especially as we don’t have unlimited funds

 

[Liquid Gold]

Jamie Patterson, all is forgiven. Please come back

 

[Liquid Gold]

we just have to get through till January with what we have

What everybody wants to hear after a successful summer of recruitment

 

[Cally Fedora]

The idea of a window is to strengthen. Not to add assorted dross. We’re not building a squad from scratch, we’re finessing a top 5 team. We’ve added RB cover, LB strength and we’ve swapped Binks for Woolfenden and added Rushworth. We had to do the deal for Sheaf and he was impacting less and less. The days of plugging gaps left by endless loans and cheap gambles that haven’t paid off are thankfully gone.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

We have one of the best 11’s in the league

we just have to get through till January with what we have

That’s the concern for me and why I’d be looking at free agents especially now where we have a week to get fitness up.

We are going to get injuries to our starting 11 it’s already happened with Sakamoto. We are currently way too reliant on luck in this regard imo

 

[Skyblue_CP]

The books will be interesting but as we saw with a decade of sisu ultimately meaningless and have no impact on the clubs success on the pitch. I don’t think it was but if you’re saying it was promotion or stadium IMO we made the wrong choice.

Surely not?

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

After sleeping on it.

We have the best right back in the league and another right back( who's pretty versatile) on the bench who would walk into more than half the teams in the league.

We have 3 absolute top quality centre backs. Top 6 material. Lats as back up isnt bad at all.

A better keeper than Wilson and Collins.

What's not to like.

Kept our best players. We will still likely have on the bench vs Norwich:

Simms
Asante
Eccles
Allen
Kane Hesler
Thomas
Bidwell
Wilson


That's a strong bench!

Not to mention arguably the best player in the league.

Our biggest faux pas this window is that while we've somewhat solved certain problem areas, we've actually created issues in other departments.

Letting Sheaf go was undoubtedly a financial decision, which I can understand given the fee received, but to do it without another midfielder coming in the opposite way is a risk. I would've used his spot to bring in further support behind Rudoni.

Not really sure why we let Raphael go. I can only assume FL now sees BTA as his RW and Brau will be a hybrid LW/LB. But we're now very short in actual wingers.

There are positives. Glad we were able to address the defence and GK positions, with us being able to move on some players which were surplus to requirements.

Ultimately it's clear it was a tough window. We undoubtedly tried to get more signings over the line but for whatever reason that didn't come off.

We're still a disjointed side, which hopefully we'll look to address further in the next window.

 

[Levship20]

That’s the concern for me and why I’d be looking at free agents especially now where we have a week to get fitness up.

We are going to get injuries to our starting 11 it’s already happened with Sakamoto. We are currently way too reliant on luck in this regard imo

Can we still not get loans in? Not sure on rules this year

 

[TomRad85]

Regardless of how we or who paid it, I definitely think it was a curveball.

Even before the stadium, it was pretty clear we needed to sell somebody before buying.

We've balanced the books nicely now. I know people won't like that because there's a clear desperation to get promoted.

I don't want to go on about it like some that have been negative on everything all summer and there's little point in repeating how disappointed you are every 2 minutes in slightly different ways but I do want to pick up on one point here..

I don't think it's clear we needed to sell somebody at all. Even before Sheaf went we knew we'd bid on Hughes and Godo. If we're conservative and go lower end let's say £12 mil for the pair. Then we sold Sheaf. You're talking over £15 mil of transfer funds that were available to the manager going unspent I would think. Something fell down on the recruitment side, no question at all.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Can we still not get loans in? Not sure on rules this year

No transfer window includes loans now so apart from emergency keepers we can’t bring anyone in apart from free agents

 

[pusbccfc]

I don't want to go on about it like some that have been negative on everything all summer and there's little point in repeating how disappointed you are every 2 minutes in slightly different ways but I do want to pick up on one point here..

I don't think it's clear we needed to sell somebody at all. Even before Sheaf went we knew we'd bid on Hughes and Godo. If we're conservative and go lower end let's say £12 mil for the pair. Then we sold Sheaf. You're talking over £15 mil of transfer funds that were available to the manager going unspent I would think. Something fell down on the recruitment side, no question at all.

We would have found money for him if they bid was accepted but it would have added pressure to sell an asset in January.

We had long spent the Vik/Hamer money. Look at the business we did last summer and in Jan.

I agree with the final point, I don't think it went perfectly. They will be frustrated not to get one or two more bodies in. However, I think they'll be happy with the outgoings. I doubt anyone expected us to get as much as £6.5m+ for Sheaf. Similarly, the money for Binks.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don't want to go on about it like some that have been negative on everything all summer and there's little point in repeating how disappointed you are every 2 minutes in slightly different ways but I do want to pick up on one point here..

I don't think it's clear we needed to sell somebody at all. Even before Sheaf went we knew we'd bid on Hughes and Godo. If we're conservative and go lower end let's say £12 mil for the pair. Then we sold Sheaf. You're talking over £15 mil of transfer funds that were available to the manager going unspent I would think. Something fell down on the recruitment side, no question at all.

I agree, but I think not having loans in our back pocket should the permanents not have happened was bizarre. Defence is now OK personnel wise, but we’ve left ourselves hoping for no injuries in basically all the other positions because we haven’t loaned anyone in further up the pitch.

Whiffs of Mowbray.

 

[PVA]

When injuries, suspensions and being knackered hit, our bench looks like this...

Wilson
Bidwell
Allen
Lati
Andrews
Perry
Batanwi
Struggling with this last one (maybe Betjemann - seems like the most senior of the U21 players left)

This is the thing, people seem to be ignoring it's a long season and are assuming that the current squad stays fit throughout.

We've been asking for more squad depth for years.

Towards the end of last season we had Burroughs and Isaac Moore on the bench, plus Bassette, Raphael and Paterson (not all at the same time!).

Granted it's the end of the season when injuries start to accumulate and you need the strength in depth, so hopefully we can get to January relatively unscathed on the injury front.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

I don't want to go on about it like some that have been negative on everything all summer and there's little point in repeating how disappointed you are every 2 minutes in slightly different ways but I do want to pick up on one point here..

I don't think it's clear we needed to sell somebody at all. Even before Sheaf went we knew we'd bid on Hughes and Godo. If we're conservative and go lower end let's say £12 mil for the pair. Then we sold Sheaf. You're talking over £15 mil of transfer funds that were available to the manager going unspent I would think. Something fell down on the recruitment side, no question at all.

While there probably have been shortcomings in our planning, I also think this window was tougher than most.

The fees sides were paying for what really was massively average talent was strange, as were the rumoured price tags of targets we were heavily interested in.

That would've likely caught King off guard. He has to see the value when bringing in players - he's said that from day one - and you only have to look as far as the Godo or Hughes deals to realise this window was a bit absurd.

Once again, I'm not really sure why we didn't dip into the loan market.

I sat in on a box holders and directors box evening before the season started where he spoke of the Rushworth and he made no secret of the fact loans were challenging due to fees often involved as well as the commitment we have to show in terms of promising game time etc. So perhaps that had a hand in it.

 

[Matt smith]

We would have found money for him if they bid was accepted but it would have added pressure to sell an asset in January.

We had long spent the Vik/Hamer money. Look at the business we did last summer and in Jan.

I agree with the final point, I don't think it went perfectly. They will be frustrated not to get one or two more bodies in. However, I think they'll be happy with the outgoings. I doubt anyone expected us to get as much as £6.5m+ for Sheaf. Similarly, the money for Binks.

It definitely means there should be no excuses come January to refresh the squad if needed

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

My favourite part was the combined wisdom saying godo not good enough for us before he left for £7m lol

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

While there probably have been shortcomings in our planning, I also think this window was tougher than most.

The fees sides were paying for what really was massively average talent was strange, as were the rumoured price tags of targets we were heavily interested in.

That would've likely caught King off guard. He has to see the value when bringing in players - he's said that from day one - and you only have to look as far as the Godo or Hughes deals to realise this window was a bit absurd.

Once again, I'm not really sure why we didn't dip into the loan market.

I sat in on a box holders and directors box evening before the season started where he spoke of the Rushworth and he made no secret of the fact loans were challenging due to fees often involved as well as the commitment we have to show in terms of promising game time etc. So perhaps that had a hand in it.

Perhaps, but wide attacking players would have had a lot of minutes for us. Centre midfield a harder argument granted.

 

[shmmeee]

Really?

Everyone wants our season in the sun but most people have had the best 5 years supporting the club. It's great going up to the CBS with a full house and good match day experience. For me, I want to be competitive and have exciting seasons. The PL may happen, it may not.

I don't want us to go silly and gamble on automatic promotion. I certainly wouldn't change owning the stadium for promotion this season.

Who owns the stadium makes no difference to my experience supporting CCFC. Premier League money, disregarding anything else, sets the club up for years. The only advantage I’ve heard of owning the stadium is it increases revenue so we have a bigger credit line, which we’d only need to get promoted.

Championship football isn’t sustainable sadly. Even with 29k crowds we will lose millions each year. I’d love to stay here and have fun with proper fans but after 10 years or so without promotion you’re looking at a situation not far off the one that brought Sisu here in the first place. Or you’re hoping someone with silly cash comes in and gives you another 10 years.

The way the game is set up we have to go for promotion.