Match Thread Coventry City - Queens Park Rangers Match Thread - Saturday 23rd Aug (29 Viewers)

[Cally Fedora]

But when Doug decides to sell we will make a big profit on MVE.

No one wants to pay the fee so far though

 

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[oscillatewildly]

Have the club said if they're doing anything for the 20th anniversary of the stadium opening?

Wouldn't normally expect much for something like that but as we're playing QPR as we did in the first game thought there might be something.

Mad to think we're likely to get a much bigger crowd Saturday than we did for that game.

Don't hope too soon - A lack of a safety certificate should put paid to that.
What finer 20th anniversary tribute could there possibly be?

 

[Cally Fedora]

This is how stupid you actually are.
Here are his defensive stats as per fotmob from last season:

Tackles won: 66
Tackle success rate: 71.7% - This is incredibly high

Duels won: 190
Duel win %: 52.3%
Aerial duels won: 33
Aerial duel win %: 50.8%
Wins most of his duels, even in the air

Interceptions: 54
That’s a big number, showing brilliant positional awareness overall.

Defensive Interventions
Blocked: 12
Recoveries: 199
199 recoveries is incredible. This shows how much ground he covers, recovering possession after tackles, loose balls, and defensive transitions.

Discipline and Mistake Aversion
Dribbled past: 31
Over a full season that’s relatively low, especially when you factor in how often he’s exposed 1v1.
Fouls committed: 37
Yellow cards: Just 2
Red cards: 0
That’s top defending. Minimal fouls, even fewer bookings, doesn’t leave his team in trouble.

Fotmob. Yeah, that will give you definitive answers. “Discipline and mistake aversion”

 

[Johhny Blue]

Has the match ball even returned to earth yet after MVE’s last gasp effort against Hull?

It was due back yesterday but went into another orbit after hitting Kastaneer.

 

[procdoc]

Fotmob. Yeah, that will give you definitive answers. “Discipline and mistake aversion”

It provides actual statistics you moron. I wouldn’t expect someone like you with limited knowledge to grasp that concept though

 

[shmmeee]

MvE held our defence together single handedly at points last season. To claim he’s no good defensively is laughable.

 

[procdoc]

MvE held our defence together single handedly at points last season. To claim he’s no good defensively is laughable.

We disagree about Kitching but MVE overall is our best defender

 

[Johhny Blue]

It was due back yesterday but went into another orbit after hitting Kastaneer.

Just saw another Kastaneer reference.
A true legend with two random mentions in the same thread years later.

 

[Cally Fedora]

MvE held our defence together single handedly at points last season. To claim he’s no good defensively is laughable.

No he didn’t. That’s preposterous.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Saved us from situations he’s caused by being way out of position repeatedly. A bit like the old Paul Williams scenario. Way out of position so has to make a Hail Mary tackle and everyone chants Willo, Willo, Willo.

He's out of position because he's asked to be you clown, he's a key attacking outlet

 

[procdoc]

He's out of position because he's asked to be you clown, he's a key attacking outlet

Pointless arguing with the prick, he wouldn’t understand how modern full backs operate from a tactical standpoint

 

[shmmeee]

We disagree about Kitching but MVE overall is our best defender

I just think Kitching and Thomas are both mid to lower champ defenders in terms of defensive ability and need someone to help them out. I’d only replace Kitching cos he’s older and not a goal threat.

 

[David O'Day]

Saved us from situations he’s caused by being way out of position repeatedly. A bit like the old Paul Williams scenario. Way out of position so has to make a Hail Mary tackle and everyone chants Willo, Willo, Willo.

You seem to have a very 90s view on how full backs play.

In possession we try and adopt a 3-1-6 shape that means that both full backs either push very high and act as wingers or invert and find themselves in the wider 10 positions.

This is how the are meant to act and it is not bad positioning.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Anyway to compare KKH and MVE on the specific metric of recoveries. According to fotmob, last season each player made this number of recoveries per 90

KKH 5.59
MVE 4.46

KKH must have even worse positional sense and / or recovery ability according to Cally logic

 

[Cally Fedora]

Oh no, not fotmob again. I’ve heard it all now. “He’s asked to play out of position”. . I know he’s a likeable character and all of that but he is one of the reasons that for a season and a bit we’ve continually leaked terribly easy goals. Not the only reason. But one of them.

 

[procdoc]

Oh no, not fotmob again. I’ve heard it all now. “He’s asked to play out of position”. . I know he’s a likeable character and all of that but he is one of the reasons that for a season and a bit we’ve continually leaked terribly easy goals. Not the only reason. But one of them.

Even though the stats say completely opposite? It’s astonishing how dumb you are

 

[Shannerz]

Oh no, not fotmob again. I’ve heard it all now. “He’s asked to play out of position”. . I know he’s a likeable character and all of that but he is one of the reasons that for a season and a bit we’ve continually leaked terribly easy goals. Not the only reason. But one of them.

That's possibly the strangest take I've seen regarding our team.

 

[shmmeee]

That's possibly the strangest take I've seen regarding our team.

Let’s be honest at the weekend Bobby Thomas laid off the ball in the box for their attacker to tap in and everyone on here blamed Milan because he gave the throw away. Some truly nuts football opinions on here.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Correct. Our defending for a long time has been truly awful. That’s primarily due to the defence and keeper in my opinion.

 

[Bad Boy]

Correct. Our defending for a long time has been truly awful. That’s primarily due to the defence and keeper in my opinion.

As I said on another thread, we do weird things like miskick just as a toddler does in a garden, or simply not kicking the ball, or the ball balloons off a defender back into the danger zone and we stand off instead of attacking the ball.
It's a combination of some really odd decisions and actions that lead to us giving soft goals away and it just keeps happening.

 

[Cally Fedora]

As I said on another thread, we do weird things like miskick just as a toddler does in a garden, or simply not kicking the ball, or the ball balloons off a defender back into the danger zone and we stand off instead of attacking the ball.
It's a combination of some really odd decisions and actions that lead to us giving soft goals away and it just keeps happening.

Absolutely. We find ways of conceding that you couldn’t make up. It’s because it’s all a bit haphazard back there.

 

[CCFCMember]

Can’t go to the game was going to put the tickets up however can’t find a way to do it does anyone know how I can?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

This is how stupid you actually are.
Here are his defensive stats as per fotmob from last season:

Duels won: 190
Duel win %: 52.3%
Aerial duels won: 33
Aerial duel win %: 50.8%
Wins most of his duels, even in the air

Not to get involved in the flirting between you and CF but to say he wins most of his duels is a little OTT.

He nearly loses as many as he wins. That's not most.

 

[TomRad85]

Oh no, not fotmob again. I’ve heard it all now. “He’s asked to play out of position”. . I know he’s a likeable character and all of that but he is one of the reasons that for a season and a bit we’ve continually leaked terribly easy goals. Not the only reason. But one of them.

After Rudoni, he's arguably our best player, in any position. You've had a shocker here even by the standards of this forum.

 

[TomRad85]

I just think Kitching and Thomas are both mid to lower champ defenders in terms of defensive ability and need someone to help them out. I’d only replace Kitching cos he’s older and not a goal threat.

Thomas and Kitching being mid to lower Champ defenders is also some take considering they play regularly for a team that is not that.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Can’t go to the game was going to put the tickets up however can’t find a way to do it does anyone know how I can?

How much are you willing to pay me to take them off your hands?

 

[oscillatewildly]

Can’t go to the game was going to put the tickets up however can’t find a way to do it does anyone know how I can?

My apologies - I genuinely thought this was the Millwall cup thread!

 

[CV22SBA]

Poor following from QPR for a 3pm saturday at the start of the season.

Tickets for Saturday's all-ticket affair are now off sale. R's fans have snapped up 1,847 tickets for the trip to the CBS Arena.
Please do not travel to the stadium without a valid match ticket.

 

[Evo1883]

Probably be about 27,000 then

 

[Cally Fedora]

After Rudoni, he's arguably our best player, in any position. You've had a shocker here even by the standards of this forum.

I’ve never disputed he’s a good player. He’s just not an especially good defender.

 

[CovRes]

Poor following from QPR for a 3pm saturday at the start of the season.

Tickets for Saturday's all-ticket affair are now off sale. R's fans have snapped up 1,847 tickets for the trip to the CBS Arena.
Please do not travel to the stadium without a valid match ticket.

Bank Holiday weekend with the schools going back soon so some people will be away on holiday while they still can.

 

[procdoc]

I’ve never disputed he’s a good player. He’s just not an especially good defender.

You then laugh at people that use stats to prove that he is a good defender though. It might be your opinion but literally no one agrees with you

 

[SBT]

Bank Holiday weekend with the schools going back soon so some people will be away on holiday while they still can.

They’ve never had a big following, was always going to be a small number. I actually rate their home fans better than their away fans.

 

[Cally Fedora]

You then laugh at people that use stats to prove that he is a good defender though. It might be your opinion but literally no one agrees with you

All those clubs that haven’t offered what we want agree.

 

[procdoc]

All those clubs that haven’t offered what we want agree.

So what? That does not prove your point. Clubs have clearly been trying to low-ball us to get him on the cheap