New stadium (16 Viewers)
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Brylowes
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I would imagine Frasers have been keeping a close eye on our current ST sales & attendance in general, surely be looking to increase rent in-line with our own increased revenue.
How many ST’s were we shifting when the current rent agreement was signed ?
robbiethemole
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How much has it cost Doug in fines so far, was it £10k per season? peanuts to a multi-millionaire like him!! hahahaha
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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He’s written to the council making basic enquiries. It’s not like he’s threatening to go on a rent strike and leave the ground.
given we can’t expand the CBS and we’ve only got a tenancy of 3 years remaining he’d be silly not to make initial investigations.
Cally Fedora
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How so? When you knock off lost revenue for when we play there, then the cost of upkeep so we can play and then deduct the share of revenues we take there will be nothing left of note.Of course it makes cash for the stadium
clint van damme
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Why would we need to expand the CBS?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I’d imagine the sponsorship for the facility is brought in by the existence of the football club
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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We’re currently on course to sell out most games. If we get promoted then it will sell out every week.
you’ve got to put plans in for 5, 10 years down the line. If all goes well and say we get promoted we’d Need to look at expansion.
clint van damme
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How are we on course to sell out most of our games?
And if we get promoted yes, we'll sell out every week, but it may only last a season.
Talk of needing a bigger ground is extremely premature.
And even if we needed one, I doubt building a new ground is remotely viable.
Gynnsthetonic
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Why can't it be expanded, other teams seem to do it in a lot tighter spaces than ours and surrounded by houses
Balli001
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Well we dont own it for a start
Probably goes along with the original selling a block at a time?
Nick
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It will be selling out a lot this season.
It seems like we pay for a lot of the upkeep as well.
How much revenue are they losing when we have home games and they get 25k people trying to buy food and beer off them?
Brighton Sky Blue
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It's a total non starter to suggest building it at the site suggested.
Don't forget there must be a tax for sole use?
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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We’ll well be roughly at 27,000 every game for a start that’s before you sell corporate and the remaining general sale which the majority of the time we will be close to.
but again that’s something to enquire about in a plan for say 10 years. Would be madness not to have a plan.
In terms of getting a new one we’re back to the question of “what if Frasers terms aren’t viable?” What happens then? Ultimately Doug needs options. This is an option albeit highly unlikely. We can’t keep being held to ransom on our home
and that was the response to Doug - as I said it’s basic enquiries about what he can and can’t do. He’s asked the question - he’s been told no. He goes back to the drawing board
this scenario is going to crop up every 5-10 years unless we get control of a stadium. Whether that’s a new ground or buying from Ashley
StrettoBoy
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I fear that Ashley will refuse to give us an extension and try and buy the club for a song in 2028 when we face being homeless again. I wouldn't put it past him 
My point is that other than a couple of local outlets we don’t garner a great deal of media coverage at all. I don’t see a single national outlet with a new story on us today, for example.
Grendel
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We are clearly interested but we are not shareholders in the company.
Unlike Seppala he clearly has some business acumen if you like him or not. Her only skill was lying through her back teeth and turning people against each other. She wasn’t an especially impressive person and I always found it slightly alarming you were taken in by her.
He has been handed a tough deal following the train wreck she left behind and has certainly exceeded my expectations. We used to have imbeciles like Boddy who was just an embarrassment. It’s far more professional and I don’t need to know what hes trying to do as I trust he will be doing something to try and maximise the clubs opportunity. Not like losers such as Seppala and Boddy
Grendel
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So yesterday on Yahoo sports
uk.sports.yahoo.com
You are really making yourself look very silly here
Neil Warnock makes Coventry City prediction with 'silly money' being spent
Coventry City have reached the Championship play-offs in two of the past three seasons
uk.sports.yahoo.com
You are really making yourself look very silly here
That’s an aggregated Coventry Telegraph story from yesterday, so not really? But I’m not sure anyone knows what point you’re trying to prove anymore.So yesterday on Yahoo sports
Neil Warnock makes Coventry City prediction with 'silly money' being spent
Coventry City have reached the Championship play-offs in two of the past three seasons
You are really making yourself look very silly here
stay_up_skyblues
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“Doug likes the Butts and he cannot lie”
There will be no new stadium. Not a chance, it makes no sense at all. Its all just posturing and business people trying to get the best deal for the future. The CBS has been improved no end and is our home now. A new stadium would cost millions. Now whilst we are beholden to Frasers they are beholden to City in reality. Both operations need each other.
Warwickhunt
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Spot on!
Lamps
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How much profit do you think the stadium makes when we're not playing?
How about the upkeep needed? King has been investing in the stadium. Is that our job or should it be the stadium owner? Is Ashley expecting us to keep paying for upgrades on a stadium we don't own plus wants a big rent increase?
As usual we don't know many details. We don't even know who leaked it and why. But we do have experts on here that have already made their minds up.
Skyblueweeman
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I'm led to believe there are gigs booked for the stadium bowl next summer. I got told 'you'll love who is at the Ricoh next summer' which could either be someone I actually like or someone I hate
Gonna be awkward when Coldplay are playing and the camera pans to the corporate boxes and Adi's got his arms around MR.
chiefdave
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We pay rent, we seemingly pay for most of the maintenance, we are responsible for the pitch etc. The things we aren't responsible for / won't pay for haven't had a penny spent on them, like the PA for example.
On top of the rent they get the F&B, car parking, naming rights, stadium tours (nobody is going on those if it's not a football stadium). 23+ event days a year when we give them in the region of 30K visitors. If they're losing money or barely breaking even on that they're doing something wrong.
Cally Fedora
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We pay a small rent. We take a % of food and beverages. We get ticket sales. The upkeep is Frasers. They can’t do anything with it for 30-40 days when we play. All of the statutory upkeep is theirs. Tours? That will be an absolute pittance in the scheme of things. I’m not saying it’s an issue. But not owning and renting is exactly the deal we should stick with.
Lamps
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So how much rent do we presently pay and how much is Ashley wanting to put it up to?