Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (46 Viewers)

[CovRes]

Counting up I believe the club has only 24 over 21 y.o. players even counting Collins & the injured players so there is still room for 1 more player. Amirite?

Rushworth brings it up to 25.
Raphael is now a senior player.

 

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[Martw]

He's out for a month or so, not done his ACL

He'd more likely go when fit in August I guess but if a club is confident on the progress of his injury then they may decide to try earlier to be beat the queue!!!

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Why are you making it personal? it’s a discussion on a football forum, don’t get so flustered about differing opinions . I made the point about the defence being the issue and not goal scoring. You jumped in asking how many the strikers scored. So one would assume you felt goalscoring was an issue not the defence.

When someone makes a valid counter argument to something you’ve said. You seem to turn to insults about people’s intelligence rather than make a balanced response. Odd

For the record, I’m not sure I even commented on the Wilson starting thread?

It's a go-to response, I am sure soon he will whip out your interaction stats to try and belittle you more.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Why are you making it personal? it’s a discussion on a football forum, don’t get so flustered about differing opinions . I made the point about the defence being the issue and not goal scoring. You jumped in asking how many the strikers scored. So one would assume you felt goalscoring was an issue not the defence.

When someone makes a valid counter argument to something you’ve said. You seem to turn to insults about people’s intelligence rather than make a balanced response. Odd

For the record, I’m not sure I even commented on the Wilson starting thread?

You mentioned I discussed the centre halves. I haven't mentioned them at all, you then said i was flittering between different points.

My point is. The strikers are shit.

On the centre halves, the backup 2 are shit also.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It's a go-to response, I am sure soon he will whip out your interaction stats to try and belittle you more.

His reaction score is fairly decent.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

It's a go-to response, I am sure soon he will whip out your interaction stats to try and belittle you more.

I have mentioned his tedious passion for gazumping people and his self congratulatory nature to him but alas it's to no avail.

 

[Matt smith]

I think we will use the loan market for one of the forward areas

Completely agree, one permanent and on loan

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Completely agree, one permanent and on loan

Maybe , depending on funds and squad numbers

 

[Offhegoes]

We are not going to sign 2 players. We will sign a player who can play both St and RW

And to be honest then I'd be happy. 4 quality signings. I'm sure we shall see the departure of one of the following (Allen, Simms, Bidwell, Binks) so that might free up more cash for another signing. And 1 or 2 of the following will be loaned out (Obikwu, Bassette, Rodrigues, Andrews)

 

[Ccfcisparks]

And to be honest then I'd be happy. 4 quality signings. I'm sure we shall see the departure of one of the following (Allen, Simms, Bidwell, Binks) so that might free up more cash for another signing. And 1 or 2 of the following will be loaned out (Obikwu, Bassette, Rodrigues, Andrews)

Yes agreed.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

It is not a priority - the defensive record post Lampard could be improved a bit but definitely improved (1.47 goals per game pre Lampard to 1.13 post), and better still it went to 1 per game from Norwich onwards when the Kitching and Thomas partnership was restored.

I would say another significant contributor to that was Dovin hitting form. We frankly would've conceded considerably more goals had Wilson for instance been in goal. The chances we conceded - yes a Championship defence is always going to concede chances - were still sloppy.

Also, behind Thomas and Kitching there's no one that could adequately fill in if one or both were out for an extended spell.

Lati is far too slow to play in a high line and Binks is a car crash.

We most likely need to move one out first but it's an area I'd almost certainly look to invest in if the opportunity arose.

 

[Cally Fedora]

You mentioned I discussed the centre halves. I haven't mentioned them at all, you then said i was flittering between different points.

My point is. The strikers are shit.

On the centre halves, the backup 2 are shit also.

The strikers arent shit at all. Even Simms who most would acknowledge has come in for some stick is a proven championship striker. It’s a fact. So are Wright and BTA. We can improve there but to say they are shit is ridiculous

 

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[Sky Blue Goblin]

 

[Captain Dart]

Rushworth brings it up to 25.
Raphael is now a senior player.

Ahh yeah, Rapha just snuck into the over 21 category. In which case there is no alternative, Collins out!

 

[Monty]

Counting up I believe the club has only 24 over 21 y.o. players even counting Collins & the injured players so there is still room for 1 more player. Amirite?

I make 26 as Raphael and Bell were both over 21 at 1 January 2025

 

[Balli001]

Rushworth brings it up to 25.
Raphael is now a senior player.

They could always deregister Dovin until January to free up a space, recovery time depending of course

 

[Balli001]

I make 26 as Raphael and Bell were both over 21 at 1 January 2025

Either Bell or Collins wont get registered anyway

 

[Captain Dart]

I make 26 as Raphael and Bell were both over 21 at 1 January 2025

I think Bell will be out on loan, the club won't be registering him with up to 4 goalies ahead of him.

 

[Skybluedownunder]

They could always deregister Dovin until January to free up a space, recovery time depending of course

Smart, that’s actually a good idea


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[Kingokings204]

They could always deregister Dovin until January to free up a space, recovery time depending of course

 

[BerksSB]

Smart, that’s actually a good idea


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Not if Dovin is ready to play again in December say and Rushworth gets injured. We’d be left with Wilson again.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Not if Dovin is ready to play again in December say and Rushworth gets injured. We’d be left with Wilson again.

Just deregister Collins. Not like he’s going to play while we have three other goalies plus Bell

 

[CovRes]

I make 26 as Raphael and Bell were both over 21 at 1 January 2025

Transfermarkt list Bell's birthday as 01/04/2004. Assuming that the FA simply update the rules in the handbook from last year, an U21 will be a player born on or after 01/01/2004.

 

[David O'Day]

if i had a pound for every time a turkish tweet said they were signing milan i'm buy him myself

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Do agree on the lack of depth on the wings especially if you don’t include Wright as a left winger but as the starting striker.

It’s a big reason I liked the Belgian Striker link as he can play off the Right or down the centre as a 9 while being happy in possession to drop deeper into midfield.

Exactly. You can’t really say ‘Haji can play LW’ if he’s starting upfront and Lampard has given every indication that is what he intends to do.

If we sell/loan a striker out and we sign someone who can play multiple positions that’s ideal. Even multi-positional players like Windass or Goodrham (not necessarily them) are good options because they play 2-3 positions comfortably. Whereas having Simms, BTA and Bassette all as specialist strikers is a bit much and restricts their game time.

In my view, the bench should look something like:
GK - cover
FB - cover
CB - cover
CM1 - Torp - playmaking option
CM2 - Eccles - more defensive
RW - Rapha (hopefully we get an upgrade)
AM/ LW - someone who can cover across the the forward line
ST - BTA
ST - Simms

We either get an AM like Rudoni who can play out wide or a winger who can comfortably play both sides.

For your 5 subs:
- Bring a CM on according to game state, Torp if we’re chasing, Eccles to tighten things up
- Winger 1 for Sakamoto / Rudoni if they can play AM
- Winger 2 for EMC
- ST for Haji / whether we choose to change to 2 strikers


Here, you can bring on a striker for EMC to perhaps shift Haji to LW and still bring an AM for Rudoni and another winger for Sakamoto.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Exactly. You can’t really say ‘Haji can play LW’ if he’s starting upfront and Lampard has given every indication that is what he intends to do.

If we sell/loan a striker out and we sign someone who can play multiple positions that’s ideal. Even multi-positional players like Windass or Goodrham (not necessarily them) are good options because they play 2-3 positions comfortably. Whereas having Simms, BTA and Bassette all as specialist strikers is a bit much and restricts their game time.

In my view, the bench should look something like:
GK - cover
FB - cover
CB - cover
CM1 - Torp - playmaking option
CM2 - Eccles - more defensive
RW - Rapha (hopefully we get an upgrade)
AM/ LW - someone who can cover across the the forward line
ST - BTA
ST - Simms

We either get an AM like Rudoni who can play out wide or a winger who can comfortably play both sides.

For your 5 subs:
- Bring a CM on according to game state, Torp if we’re chasing, Eccles to tighten things up
- Winger 1 for Sakamoto / Rudoni if they can play AM
- Winger 2 for EMC
- ST for Haji / whether we choose to change to 2 strikers


Here, you can bring on a striker for EMC to perhaps shift Haji to LW and still bring an AM for Rudoni and another winger for Sakamoto.

I think it’s fair, I think in a ideal world I would want to freshen our St options but being pragmatic if we can get one Winger who can play both sides and either a more box to box cm to push torp up or a AM then we would have players in each role.

Only thing that worry’s me is if the options Lampard has in ST are round pegs in square holes if that makes sense including Wright.

 

[Batu1969]

At the forum last night Doug has never appeared more comfortable in the role

He’s chuffed to bits with Paul Tyrrel and Nicola Ibbotson who were very impressive in person. We are losing the same amount of money operationally each year but instead of spending £15m on the playing squad and losing £6-7m we are spending like £25m and losing a similar figure.

He doesn’t have the money to invest £7m a season and will need partners or investment or to sell to sustain his involvement

I’ll add a summary pre notes coming out in the forum thread

Thanks @Sky Blue Pete. Nice to get a sense of realism with all the talk of spend, spend, spend.

Think the Wrexham TV show and Birmingham are strong indicators that it’s not just parachute payments warping the financial model in the Championship. So Doug needing Partners rather than just hoping a Sports-washing brand rolls up after promotion makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[fatso]

Exactly. You can’t really say ‘Haji can play LW’ if he’s starting upfront and Lampard has given every indication that is what he intends to do.

If we sell/loan a striker out and we sign someone who can play multiple positions that’s ideal. Even multi-positional players like Windass or Goodrham (not necessarily them) are good options because they play 2-3 positions comfortably. Whereas having Simms, BTA and Bassette all as specialist strikers is a bit much and restricts their game time.

In my view, the bench should look something like:
GK - cover
FB - cover
CB - cover
CM1 - Torp - playmaking option
CM2 - Eccles - more defensive
RW - Rapha (hopefully we get an upgrade)
AM/ LW - someone who can cover across the the forward line
ST - BTA
ST - Simms

We either get an AM like Rudoni who can play out wide or a winger who can comfortably play both sides.

For your 5 subs:
- Bring a CM on according to game state, Torp if we’re chasing, Eccles to tighten things up
- Winger 1 for Sakamoto / Rudoni if they can play AM
- Winger 2 for EMC
- ST for Haji / whether we choose to change to 2 strikers


Here, you can bring on a striker for EMC to perhaps shift Haji to LW and still bring an AM for Rudoni and another winger for Sakamoto.

Who's place in the 25 man club squad, does Rapha take if your naming him on the bench?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Who's place in the 25 man club squad, does Rapha take if your naming him on the bench?

It’s illustrative at this point because the only winger in the squad outside of Sakamoto and EMC.

I’d be surprised and disappointed if we don’t sign at least 2 forward players before the end of the window.

If we had 2 wingers who could get 6-9 goal contributions from the bench, that would make a huge difference over a 46 game season. In fact, I think Sakamoto would be perfect for this role.

 

[SBAndy]

I’m still fairly convinced we’ll end up with Tyrique George on loan.

 

[fatso]

It’s illustrative at this point because the only winger in the squad outside of Sakamoto and EMC.

I’d be surprised and disappointed if we don’t sign at least 2 forward players before the end of the window.

If we had 2 wingers who could get 6-9 goal contributions from the bench, that would make a huge difference over a 46 game season. In fact, I think Sakamoto would be perfect for this role.

I think even if we lost both wingers we'd play Wright and/or BTA or even KKH/Brau on the wing before Rapha gets a start.

Hence the reason I posted yesterday that he needs to be moved on, (and Collins and Bidwell) as we are now up to the 25 man squad limit, but still ideally need a CF/WM and CH

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I think even if we lost both wingers we'd play Wright and/or BTA or even KKH/Brau on the wing before Rapha gets a start.

Hence the reason I posted yesterday that he needs to be moved on, (and Collins and Bidwell) as we are now up to the 25 man squad limit, but still ideally need a CF/WM and CH

The only palatable option there is playing Wright LW which he is only record saying he views himself as a striker and wants to play there. Unless he forces a move, he’ll be our number 1 striker.

If we’re in a position where our fullbacks need to play RW and LW, it’s not a good spot to be in and really highlights just how badly we need to sign wingers. BTA is not a winger and he filled in many times there and scored 1 or 2 goals all season off the bench. Whoever is 3rd choice out of Simms or BTA needs to be moved on.

Haji Wright will comfortably score 15-20 goals in a 46 game season, we don’t ‘need’ to prioritise spending on a ‘proper number 9’. We actually need to spend money on wingers right now. The top 3 teams last season have 3-4 wingers with 7-10+ goal contributions, we only have 2.

KKH and Brau are probably going to be starting fullbacks and they’re not wingers. It’s wishful thinking that MVE is our player by the transfer window closing.

 

[TomRad85]

Haji Wright was the 4th highest scoring striker whilst missing 3 months of the season…

As things stand, the front 3 will be Sakamoto-Wright-EMC. It really is that simple and if you want a player better than Haji, you’re gonna need to spend in the region of £10m.

Yes mainly from the left where he's obviously better. Not sure what you're refusing to see here tbh.

 

[TomRad85]

He was signed as a striker and that’s where he’ll play next season so the focus on Simms, Bassette or BTA is somewhat beside the point… they’re all role players.

With wingers, you have 2 on the field and with 5 subs, you’d want the option to change 4 midfielders in most cases.

Not sure what this means either tbh.. he was signed as a striker so that's where he'll play? Well we've had him for 2 seasons and that's not where he's played the majority of his games.