Israel - Palestinian Conflict (16 Viewers)

Grendel

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I accept that - but terrorism it most definitely is not.

Not you right to say that is it?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Well I disagree and it seems you are defending an organisation which is a Palestine group who are trying to usurp democracy

If you think Palestine Action is not a terrorist group and keep defending it that’s going to put you as a supporter of a terrorist group.

Good luck
It doesn't appear to fit with any of the CPS definitions of terrorism.

 

Grendel

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Grendel

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Ah yes, that's how it works. Look at the definitions and give your honest opinion, does spraying two planes with fire extinguishers fit any of them?

It’s a military establishment - any country would consider that an action against the government
 

Ian1779

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Not you right to say that is it?
I mean you’re not wrong to be fair.

I wouldn’t expect Starmer or Cooper to follow anything written in law for example.

Like most of our policy decisions in the Middle East, they will simply take the lead from whichever ‘lobbying interest’ insists on a course of action.
 

Grendel

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Goalpost moving as per

No it’s a massive issue and has to be severely punished - I would define it as a terrorist act yes and looking at the news a lot of this group seem worried and hopefully will they will start to grow up and behave
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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No it’s a massive issue and has to be severely punished - I would define it as a terrorist act yes and looking at the news a lot of this group seem worried and hopefully will they will start to grow up and behave
Which of the CPS definitions has it met in your view?
 

mmttww

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hopefully will they will start to grow up and behave

Don't expect it's easy to watch your people being blasted to pieces and starved. Hardly a shock that a group would try a stunt like this even if it's just to try and keep Gaza in the news cycle. What would the grown up approach be?
 

fernandopartridge

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No it’s a massive issue and has to be severely punished - I would define it as a terrorist act yes and looking at the news a lot of this group seem worried and hopefully will they will start to grow up and behave
The message is loud and clear. You have no right to protest decisions of the government. Just Stop Oil, Palestine Action. Who's next?
 

SBT

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If you think Palestine Action is not a terrorist group and keep defending it that’s going to put you as a supporter of a terrorist group.

Good luck
Are you going to alert the authorities? They have a backlog of forum-related cases at the moment just fyi
 

tisza

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Ah yes, that's how it works. Look at the definitions and give your honest opinion, does spraying two planes with fire extinguishers fit any of them?
Palestinian Action also said they had damaged the engines with crowbars. Various news sources stating the damage could be between 30&55 million pounds. That would seem to fit the serious damage to property and arguable endangering the lives of this flying or travelling in the planes.
 

fatso

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For anyone who thinks Americas strike on Iran was just an act of a mad man, think again, it was always their agenda.
 

PVA

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For anyone who thinks Americas strike on Iran was just an act of a mad man, think again, it was always their agenda.


"An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president.

But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel."
 

duffer

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I've no time for either Iran or Israel, at least in terms of their governments.

I think what the American action confirms though, as if we didn't know it already, is that the idea of some kind of international rules-based order is ancient history.

I somehow doubt that this will lead to less countries wanting nuclear weapons.

Nothing about this whole shit show, provoked primarily to keep one man, Netanyahu, in power, makes the world safer. Entirely the opposite, in fact.
 

Briles

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America Bombing Iran and Iran slapping back is like when you play fought with your little brother and accidently went too far and hurt him, so you give him a free hit knowing full well it wont hurt and that he wont tell your parents. (Who are Chinese and Russian)
 

CCFCSteve

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I've no time for either Iran or Israel, at least in terms of their governments.

I think what the American action confirms though, as if we didn't know it already, is that the idea of some kind of international rules-based order is ancient history.

I somehow doubt that this will lead to less countries wanting nuclear weapons.

Nothing about this whole shit show, provoked primarily to keep one man, Netanyahu, in power, makes the world safer. Entirely the opposite, in fact.

Sooner he’s out and there’s also regime change in Iran the better. Still hoping we can stay out of the mess over there though
 

tisza

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Trump made to look a fool #43,234
Don't think world leaders actually respect him much. Iran, Israel, Russia, China all seem to think they can string him along without making changes Trump "asks" for. He's still the antithesis for most EU Govts.

most African countries still going to lean towards Russia and/or China because those 2 aren't concerned about how the leadership got into power or hold onto it. They'll buy influence where they can.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Sooner he’s out and there’s also regime change in Iran the better. Still hoping we can stay out of the mess over there though
The issue in Iran is that there is no obvious regime waiting in the wings to replace the current one. The last democratically elected leader was couped by the West 70 years ago.
 

Captain Dart

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I expect them to be arrested, charged and prosecuted under the laws of the land that have been perfectly adequate for decades. Don't see any need to declare protests terrorist activity.
Typical politicians trick bring in a new but essentially pointless offense that is already covered by existing law to prove they are doing something.🤭
 

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