Israel - Palestinian Conflict (9 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Iranians gathered in street celebrating every strike like a goal in World Cup

Just an FYI, they're all cunts

Israelis are just as bad. Religion is easily the worst man made concept in history.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Israelis are just as bad. Religion is easily the worst man made concept in history.

‘I don’t like these people so it’s ok they get bombed and die’ is the thought of people on here never mind in Iran or Israel.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

TRT GLOBAL - A Turkish broadcasting network.
Turkey - A country with a gnats knacker just under 100% Muslim population.
This is hardly BBC verify, is it, BSB?

As a side point, and sorry to railroad, BBC verify is absolutely terrible as well.

It's basically one of these 'fact checking' sites that is politically motivated depending on who's reviewing it. They've had to apologise/reverse on details for getting things wrong on multiple occasions.

 

[shmmeee]

‘I don’t like these people so it’s ok they get bombed and die’ is the thought of people on here never mind in Iran or Israel.

We have plenty of secular people in this country who think like this. The more religion slides back the less I think it’s responsible tbh.

 

[shmmeee]

As a side point, and sorry to railroad, BBC verify is absolutely terrible as well.

It's basically one of these 'fact checking' sites that is politically motivated depending on who's reviewing it. They've had to apologise/reverse on details for getting things wrong on multiple occasions.

The sign of a decent media outlet isn’t never getting things wrong. Would love to hear your gold standard.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As a side point, and sorry to railroad, BBC verify is absolutely terrible as well.

It's basically one of these 'fact checking' sites that is politically motivated depending on who's reviewing it. They've had to apologise/reverse on details for getting things wrong on multiple occasions.

Well, politically motivated when you disagree with the findings, objective when you agree.

 

[PVA]

Would love to hear your gold standard.

www.youtube.com

 

[shmmeee]

www.youtube.com

Well quite. It’s always the same from those that attack the BBC, you never hear what they think is better and if you do it’s some bloke in his basement in Arizona.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

The sign of a decent media outlet isn’t never getting things wrong. Would love to hear your gold standard.

I absolutely take your point, but the whole POINT of BBC Verify is that they have checked their bloody facts! It's the fact-checking arm of BBC News! I would prefer to believe first-hand accounts from people i think are trustworthy, such as John Simpson, BBC World Affairs Editor, who has been on the ground and reporting from the Middle East since before the Islamic uprising in Persia in 1979 (and got himself on the plane to report on that event, defying his Editor's express orders!). He said on 5Live this morning that don't believe anything either side says currently, as there is no way to prove it. The BBC have been banned from Iran since they launched their BBC Persian service in 2008, which the regime regarded as tantamount to an act of war.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Well quite. It’s always the same from those that attack the BBC, you never hear what they think is better and if you do it’s some bloke in his basement in Arizona.

Finally deactivated my x account
Feel better already

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Finally deactivated my x account
Feel better already

I’m sure Elon will be devastated

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’m sure Elon will be devastated

Don’t give a shit about him just my mental health and emotional energy

 

[oscillatewildly]

Don’t give a shit about him just my mental health and emotional energy

I've never done social media (well, only SBT ) none of the big platforms.
Political reasoning aside, I remember a former work colleague years ago saying the same thing (he would have been late '50's then) It was doing his head in and wearing him down so he was gonna sack it.
Can't say I regret my decision.

 

[ccfc922]

Israelis are just as bad. Religion is easily the worst man made concept in history.

Always think of the family guy sketch

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Israelis are just as bad. Religion is easily the worst man made concept in history.

Brought me a huge amount of meaning in my life

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Brought me a huge amount of meaning in my life

I suspect you would have been a fundamentally decent person with or without the Church

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I suspect you would have been a fundamentally decent person with or without the Church

That’s the nicest thing anyone has said about me for a fair amount of time
Thank yoh

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I suspect you would have been a fundamentally decent person with or without the Church

Yep.

I think people that are good humans but put it down to God are doing themselves a massive disservice.

Always wondered what goes on in their head - do they think if they suddenly stop believing in God they'll suddenly just start treating people like shit and become self serving because it doesn't matter once you're dead. Or is that fear of punishment/hope of reward once you die really enough to stop them becoming mass murderers etc.?

On the other hand those that are nasty and evil use it as an excuse for their own behaviour.

 

[ccfcchris]

Some very bold claims.

 

[wingy]

He's had the tip off then?
Mates and all that!

 

[SBT]

Some very bold claims.

Is this one of those trustworthy non-mainstream media sources we’ve been hearing about?

 

[Captain Dart]

Is this one of those trustworthy non-mainstream media sources we’ve been hearing about?

Tousi is a well known Zionist shill.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Great news, some on here will see it differently though that one of our enemies is now virtually no threat

 

[mmttww]

Great news, some on here will see it differently

You might wanna have a word with your golf buddy then, Dom. He doesn't think it's a good idea, either.

Trump told Israel not to kill Iran's supreme leader

Trump told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that assassinating Khamenei was not a good idea, according to CBS.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[CCFCSteve]

If I was Iran I’d tie giving up uranium enrichment with requesting Israel to cease Palestine conflict/engage in peace solution (long shot I know). Gives them a face saving ‘out’ and even come out with the moral high ground

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

You might wanna have a word with your golf buddy then, Dom. He doesn't think it's a good idea, either.

Trump told Israel not to kill Iran's supreme leader

Trump told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that assassinating Khamenei was not a good idea, according to CBS.

www.bbc.co.uk

Considering all the threats trump was making, it’s easy to put 2+2 together

 

[chiefdave]

If I was Iran I’d tie giving up uranium enrichment with requesting Israel to cease Palestine conflict/engage in peace solution (long shot I know). Gives them a face saving ‘out’ and even come out with the moral high ground

According to Ali Shamkhani Iran already offered to give up uranium enrichment as well as allowing weapons inspections, essentially a similar deal to JCPOA which seemed to be working relatively well until Trump unilaterally decided to withdraw the US.

Trump rejected the offer, Israel then killed Shamkhani, who was leading negotiations, and all future rounds of negotiations were scrapped.

Not going to hold my breath on a deal anytime soon.

 

[tisza]

Great news, some on here will see it differently though that one of our enemies is now virtually no threat

He's clutching at straws on the missile front. Iran was already planning to increase its inventory from around 3000 to over 20,000 ballistic missiles. Iran recently signed a co-operation agreement with russia which included "defense" technology so improved missile technology is potentiallly available to them now (in exchange for the munitions/drones etc they have been providing Russia with). Iran has seen it can swamp the Iron Dome system with comparatively few missiles so will begin ramping production as soon as they get the chance. As to the nuclear side aren't the "experts" saying some of the key components are buried too far underground for Israeli munitions to reach.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Understanding Gaza's Starvation within Israel’s Campaign

Israel’s deliberate starvation of Gaza’s population is a logical conclusion of a campaign aimed at the destruction of life in the Strip, a campaign that many experts view as genocidal.

www.rusi.org

Interesting, short, article on the Israeli actions in Gaza. Don't think i've seen it posted in here previously so thought i'd share.

 

[Grendel]

According to Ali Shamkhani Iran already offered to give up uranium enrichment as well as allowing weapons inspections, essentially a similar deal to JCPOA which seemed to be working relatively well until Trump unilaterally decided to withdraw the US.

Trump rejected the offer, Israel then killed Shamkhani, who was leading negotiations, and all future rounds of negotiations were scrapped.

Not going to hold my breath on a deal anytime soon.

Well Iran is clearly a country that the West can trust be be totally honest

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well Iran is clearly a country that the West can trust be be totally honest

It was complying with Obama’s nuclear agreement.

 

[Grendel]

It was complying with Obama’s nuclear agreement.

Again to suggest Iran would be trusted is naive at best.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Again to suggest Iran would be trusted is naive at best.

If you ignore recent history I suppose

 

[Ian1779]

Great news, some on here will see it differently though that one of our enemies is now virtually no threat

I’d equally want someone to destroy Israel’s ability to do both those things.

 

[mmttww]

to suggest Iran would be trusted is naive at best.

Isn't assuming Israel can be trusted bordering on naive at this point, too? Settlements, Gaza, unilateral attacks of neighbouring countries, ignoring their biggest backer(s), all while sitting on a bunch of nukes with total zealot maniacs pulling the strings behind Netanyahu? I get we're a long from comparing apples vs. apples here but isn't it a bit oversimplistic at this point to make our thinking 'Iran scary, Israel chill'...?