Israel - Palestinian Conflict (6 Viewers)

[wingy]

What's the score.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Wasn't it just supposed to be about destroying certain targets? Now they're talking about wiping out Tehran.

 

[wingy]

Pre-emptive strikes have been going on for these tyrant's for 30years at least, working well!

 

[Captain Dart]

Wasn't it just supposed to be about destroying certain targets? Now they're talking about wiping out Tehran.

Regime change is probably the real objective.

 

[mmttww]

Regime change is probably the real objective.

"Israel has a right to defend itself" and all that.

 

[Captain Dart]

"Israel has a right to defend itself" and all that.

Lost count of the number of countries it has attacked, is it not 2nd only to the USA since 1945.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It does and it is a fact but the regime, which in my view is abhorrent and dangerous, has been in power for 45+ years. The current mess; economically, politically and socially is of their own making.

Without wishing to quote Anakin, from my point of view the Israeli regime is abhorrent and dangerous.

 

[Captain Dart]

They're attacking Yemen now.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They're attacking Yemen now.

And Jordan???

 

[oscillatewildly]

I'm pretty sure I've studied history, particularly military history for far longer and in far more depth than you.

OK, Rommel. Name the conflicts you've served in - Let's match them up.
Or are you talking purely of reading?

I'm pretty sure I've studied history, particularly military history for far longer and in far more depth than you.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

OK, Rommel. Name the conflicts you've served in - Let's match them up.
Or are you talking purely of reading?

He said studied, to be fair.

 

[oscillatewildly]

He said studied, to be fair.

Thank you for clarification, BSB.
At ease.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Thank you for clarification, BSB.
At ease.

No need to be a dick

 

[oscillatewildly]

No need to be a dick

You may want to take some of your own advice.
Stand easy.

 

[chiefdave]

They're attacking Yemen now.

How many countries is that now just counting this year? And looks like Starmer is sending 'assets' to the Middle East ready to assist.

Do other world leaders not realise how stupid they look when they keep saying Israel have the right to self defence when they launch pre-emptive strikes, by definition not self defence, using claims that at best can't be substantiated and at worst are easily discredited?

 

[oscillatewildly]

How many countries is that now just counting this year? And looks like Starmer is sending 'assets' to the Middle East ready to assist.

Do other world leaders not realise how stupid they look when they keep saying Israel have the right to self defence when they launch pre-emptive strikes, by definition not self defence, using claims that at best can't be substantiated and at worst are easily discredited?

Do last GE labour voters now finally realise how stupid they look?
(Just asking on behalf of some delusional leftle friends)

 

[Captain Dart]

How many countries is that now just counting this year? And looks like Starmer is sending 'assets' to the Middle East ready to assist.

Do other world leaders not realise how stupid they look when they keep saying Israel have the right to self defence when they launch pre-emptive strikes, by definition not self defence, using claims that at best can't be substantiated and at worst are easily discredited?

Claims have been made an RN destroyer was helping guide Israeli missiles on Theran. Fuck knows what's really going on, I can only imagine both sides are constantly lying.

Meanwhile Gaza has had an internet blackout so who knows what is going on there.

 

[Ian1779]

Regime change is probably the real objective.

Nothing screams of dictatorship more than trying to remove the regime of a country that doesn’t belong to you.

The Israeli government have clearly decided for some reason that they have the right to act like some kind of World Police for their own nefarious gains.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Nothing screams of dictatorship more than trying to remove the regime of a country that doesn’t belong to you.

The Israeli government have clearly decided for some reason that they have the right to act like some kind of World Police for their own nefarious gains.

Bad guys fighting the bad guys.
Who we siding for here then?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You may want to take some of your own advice.
Stand easy.

What? I have no beef with you my friend.

 

[oscillatewildly]

What? I have no beef with you my friend.

But you accused me of being a 'dick'.
Was that comment intended for someone else?

 

[Ian1779]

Bad guys fighting the bad guys.
Who we siding for here then?

Innocent people getting killed in the middle.

Someone needs to explain to me how Israel can supposedly target a military leader or nuclear scientists in Iran with absolute precision, yet the only way to eradicate Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground, and shoot civilians desperate for aid.

Netanyahu, his government and every sycophant that cheers him on is an utter scumbag.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Innocent people getting killed in the middle.

Someone needs to explain to me how Israel can supposedly target a military leader or nuclear scientists in Iran with absolute precision, yet the only way to eradicate Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground, and shoot civilians desperate for aid.

Netanyahu, his government and every sycophant that cheers him on is an utter scumbag.

The Israeli military infrastructure in Tel Aviv is in with civilian buildings also. A tactic they like to accuse Hamas of.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Innocent people getting killed in the middle.

Someone needs to explain to me how Israel can supposedly target a military leader or nuclear scientists in Iran with absolute precision, yet the only way to eradicate Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground, and shoot civilians desperate for aid.

Netanyahu, his government and every sycophant that cheers him on is an utter scumbag.

Agreed. Israel has gone way, way, way, beyond anything that could be considered a 'justifiable' response. Allegations of war crimes carry some serious credence.
Just when you thought the bully didn't have the stamina to pick another fight - maybe some good may come from the atrocity?

 

[Skybluekyle]

Innocent people getting killed in the middle.

Someone needs to explain to me how Israel can supposedly target a military leader or nuclear scientists in Iran with absolute precision, yet the only way to eradicate Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground, and shoot civilians desperate for aid.

Netanyahu, his government and every sycophant that cheers him on is an utter scumbag.

In fairness, there is a distinct difference between the two situations. Hamas operates in densely populated civilian areas in Gaza making precise targeting more difficult and increases the risk of civilian causalities. Whereas Iran's military leaders and facilities are more isolated making precise targeting easier. I am not suggesting Israel is being more or less precise in Iran than in Gaza, it's just hard to compare two very different military environments.

 

[oscillatewildly]

The Israeli military infrastructure in Tel Aviv is in with civilian buildings also. A tactic they like to accuse Hamas of.

Proof?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Proof?

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/this-is-how-israel-uses-its-own-people-as-human-shields-47231

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

In fairness, there is a distinct difference between the two situations. Hamas operates in densely populated civilian areas in Gaza making precise targeting more difficult and increases the risk of civilian causalities. Whereas Iran's military leaders and facilities are more isolated making precise targeting easier. I am not suggesting Israel is being more or less precise in Iran than in Gaza, it's just hard to compare two very different military environments.

There is the difficulty in taking out military targets in a concentrated area, then there is the killing of people queuing up for food and aid.

 

[oscillatewildly]

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/this-is-how-israel-uses-its-own-people-as-human-shields-47231

TRT GLOBAL - A Turkish broadcasting network.
Turkey - A country with a gnats knacker just under 100% Muslim population.
This is hardly BBC verify, is it, BSB?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

TRT GLOBAL - A Turkish broadcasting network.
Turkey - A country with a gnats knacker just under 100% Muslim population.
This is hardly BBC verify, is it, BSB?

The piece it refers to is from Haaretz, that well known Muslim publication.

 

[oscillatewildly]

The piece it refers to is from Haaretz, that well known Muslim publication.

Haaretz - 'Known for its left wing/liberal stance'.
Again - Hardly BBC verify, is it?
I mean, would you believe any publication via GBnews?

 

[ccfc922]

Iranians gathered in street celebrating every strike like a goal in World Cup

Just an FYI, they're all cunts

 

[shmmeee]

Haaretz - 'Known for its left wing/liberal stance'.
Again - Hardly BBC verify, is it?
I mean, would you believe any publication via GBnews?

The problem with GB News is it’s not factually based not that it’s right wing.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Iranians gathered in street celebrating every strike like a goal in World Cup

Just an FYI, they're all cunts

There's no way the authorities will have prompted (sorry, ordered) this.
Absolutely. No way.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Haaretz - 'Known for its left wing/liberal stance'.
Again - Hardly BBC verify, is it?
I mean, would you believe any publication via GBnews?

It’s one of the most respected papers in Israel.