Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (28 Viewers)

Ccfcisparks

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Under Lampard, we have the highest amount of crosses in the league. This is the same as Lampard at Chelsea and at Derby. As a manager, he wants people to go wide, overlap and get balls into the box. Were patient in not just aimlessly throwing crosses in every second, but take time to get people into the box.

From what I can see the striker role, is to hold the ball up so we can attack vertically to allow the wingers and 8s to get forward. Also to occupy centre backs to allow the 8s to crash the box.

As such think a target forward who has experience in this would be the target for this role?
That’s how I see it too.

good post
 

Hincha

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Saw the other day apparently our build up play is very similar to the Brentford side that got promoted

So basically we need a striker with the same profile as Ivan Toney - I'd imagine they're in short supply
 

fernandopartridge

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There’s a lot of grown toddlers in this forum! 😂

We were a back pass away from another playoff final. Every neutral I’ve spoken to has said the same thing, over 90m we were the better team in both legs. Sunderland were only better than us in extra time and if a team was winning it before penalties, it was them unfortunately.

We’re a v good team in this division, since Lampard has come in, we’ve been the 4th best team in the division and soundly deserved to be in the playoffs.

That doesn’t mean things can’t be improved in terms of personnel or tactics, but Lampard and his team deserve credit where it’s due.

Indeed, we just need a little bit to turn dominating two games into goals. It doesn't need a complete overhaul.
 

Ccfcisparks

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McBurnie and Armstrong. Unless you're suggesting playing Armstrong as a wide man which I can't see happening.
I mean Armstrong can play out wide.

I wasn’t suggesting playing them together. Just saying it’s an example of 2 strikers with contrasting qualities that would be useful for the squad
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Wouldn’t mind keeping Simms as he’s in the model of what we’d want and I do think he could come good.

Some games he did brilliantly, I know someone at Preston and they were saying how much they struggled to deal with him (why they brought on the CB at half time).

Just want consistency and he needs to learn imo to do the boring bit of the role.

Think if you get sell BTA, and bring in an experienced number 9, who could help Simms and Bassette with their development while also playing a role, we could see some improvement from both of them
 

WebbCCFC

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Under Lampard, we have the highest amount of crosses in the league. This is the same as Lampard at Chelsea and at Derby. As a manager, he wants people to go wide, overlap and get balls into the box. Were patient in not just aimlessly throwing crosses in every second, but take time to get people into the box.

From what I can see the striker role, is to hold the ball up so we can attack vertically to allow the wingers and 8s to get forward. Also to occupy centre backs to allow the 8s to crash the box.

As such think a target forward who has experience in this would be the target for this role?
Exactly that, we need someone with the height and strength to be an option to play it long when we're defending. With Simms and Wright, it just keeps coming back. If you then manage to combine it with someone who's got in the box instincts (similar to Godden), you've got both an aerial threat and someone who gives you an option to put in low crosses too. That's why I suggested this guy:
 

Jimmy87

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@Evo1883 all I've heard on Simms is hes done here

But that's contrary to what @Jimmy87 has been told so fuck knows 🤷‍♂️😂
Not heard anything about whether he's done here or not yet, man. Thought i'd let the dust settle before i start asking questions about the window 😅
Was only referring to the training part, heard he was fine in that department. I'm sure they'll have an idea soon enough as to whether they are in the plans or not, sooner the better i think for all involved.
 

SBT

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Under Lampard, we have the highest amount of crosses in the league. This is the same as Lampard at Chelsea and at Derby. As a manager, he wants people to go wide, overlap and get balls into the box. Were patient in not just aimlessly throwing crosses in every second, but take time to get people into the box.

From what I can see the striker role, is to hold the ball up so we can attack vertically to allow the wingers and 8s to get forward. Also to occupy centre backs to allow the 8s to crash the box.

As such think a target forward who has experience in this would be the target for this role?
Derby didn’t play with a traditional target man under Lampard - don’t know about Chelsea.

I agree with you that we could do with an out ball up front, but a lot of the names suggested so far (Morris, Riis, McBurnie) seem like the kind of big lumps that would have fared very well in our last two games, and been much less capable in the months of patient passing football that preceded it.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Derby didn’t play with a traditional target man under Lampard - don’t know about Chelsea.

I agree with you that we could do with an out ball up front, but a lot of the names suggested so far (Morris, Riis, McBurnie) seem like the kind of big lumps that would have fared very well in our last two games, and been much less capable in the months of patient passing football that preceded it.
Chelsea had Abraham and I think Everton used Lewin in this way but could be wrong. I think it you watch a lot of our patient play had the target man as Simms. I think it’s just how the role naturally plays. Happy to find someone more technical mind. Ivan Toney seemed a good shout for what attributes we should be looking for (obviously can’t sign toney 🤣)
 

David O'Day

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Seemed very much RW to me.
They played a 3-4-1-2 shape and he was on the right. Saying he was a winger is like saying MVE is a winger when we player 3 at the back.

He was also not great at playing on the right. Every single time he had the ball he cut inside and when the LWB had the ball he wasn't getting in at the far post as he should have been. The comms people commented on Nathan Jones having a go at him for that.

But you can't expect him to be great at it as he like his uncle Bryan is naturally a left back and that is where he has played most of his football.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Wouldn’t mind keeping Simms as he’s in the model of what we’d want and I do think he could come good.

Some games he did brilliantly, I know someone at Preston and they were saying how much they struggled to deal with him (why they brought on the CB at half time).

Just want consistency and he needs to learn imo to do the boring bit of the role.

Think if you get sell BTA, and bring in an experienced number 9, who could help Simms and Bassette with their development while also playing a role, we could see some improvement from both of them

He doesn't seem to listen to or retain instruction, his movement / willingness to make runs is poor, he's not a great header of the ball, he can't bring others into play, struggles to control the ball under pressure or even at all, and he shy's away from putting himself in between defenders and challenging for crosses. His footballing IQ generally is pretty appalling to be honest.

Which is a problem as due to us often building up play and progressing the ball quite slowly he needs to either be making himself available to bring others into play or making runs in and around the box to open up space for himself. Which he rarely ever does. Or when he tries, he rarely does it successfully.
 

RoboCCFC90

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Wouldn’t mind keeping Simms as he’s in the model of what we’d want and I do think he could come good.

Some games he did brilliantly, I know someone at Preston and they were saying how much they struggled to deal with him (why they brought on the CB at half time).

Just want consistency and he needs to learn imo to do the boring bit of the role.

Think if you get sell BTA, and bring in an experienced number 9, who could help Simms and Bassette with their development while also playing a role, we could see some improvement from both of them
How much longer do we persist with Simms though on the potential he might come good? He was brought in after Gyokeres left, with Wright, to lead the line for us up top and he’s not been consistently good enough.
 

Bigelvesy

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What is up with all the players being named here being the cast offs of other clubs?
Guys, we dont shop in fucking homefoods and netto anymore, look at all of our past signings in the last two years?
We sign potential from abroad, a club in our leagues best player and captain, or the best player in a lower league team.

The one exception to that i can think of off the top of my head is Jay Da Silva, who half of you would get rid of in the summer anyway and BTA was West Broms top scorer the season before (plus was a very clear Robins, not the recruitment team, signing)

Why are we even mentioning mediocre strikers in a shit preston team or oli mcfuckingburnie?
 

Ccfcisparks

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What is up with all the players being named here being the cast offs of other clubs?
Guys, we dont shop in fucking homefoods and netto anymore, look at all of our past signings in the last two years?
We sign potential from abroad, a club in our leagues best player and captain, or the best player in a lower league team.

The one exception to that i can think of off the top of my head is Jay Da Silva, who half of you would get rid of in the summer anyway and BTA was West Broms top scorer the season before (plus was a very clear Robins, not the recruitment team, signing)

Why are we even mentioning mediocre strikers in a shit preston team or oli mcfuckingburnie?
Lati?
 

shmmeee

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How much longer do we persist with Simms though on the potential he might come good? He was brought in after Gyokeres left, with Wright, to lead the line for us up top and he’s not been consistently good enough.

He was brought in as a 22 year old with potential. Wright was the Gyokeres replacement. Simms was replacing Godden.
 

fatso

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What is up with all the players being named here being the cast offs of other clubs?
Guys, we dont shop in fucking homefoods and netto anymore, look at all of our past signings in the last two years?
We sign potential from abroad, a club in our leagues best player and captain, or the best player in a lower league team.

The one exception to that i can think of off the top of my head is Jay Da Silva, who half of you would get rid of in the summer anyway and BTA was West Broms top scorer the season before (plus was a very clear Robins, not the recruitment team, signing)

Why are we even mentioning mediocre strikers in a shit preston team or oli mcfuckingburnie?
I fear it's going to be like this all summer,
It's like there's shit loads of dumb ass forum members who haven't grasped what Doug"s transfer strategy is.
 

TomRad85

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Sheffield United and Sunderland were the main links to Riis. Same people on here doing that thing where they turned their nose up at someone like Kieffer Moore when he'd have actually been good too.
You've got to play the free market smarter than we have, personally I'd spend out on a striker like Salech and bring the second one free but I'm taking Riis over Simms and BTA all day. Cash in on both asap.
 

CovveeBreak

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What is up with all the players being named here being the cast offs of other clubs?
Guys, we dont shop in fucking homefoods and netto anymore, look at all of our past signings in the last two years?
We sign potential from abroad, a club in our leagues best player and captain, or the best player in a lower league team.

The one exception to that i can think of off the top of my head is Jay Da Silva, who half of you would get rid of in the summer anyway and BTA was West Broms top scorer the season before (plus was a very clear Robins, not the recruitment team, signing)

Why are we even mentioning mediocre strikers in a shit preston team or oli mcfuckingburnie?
Came here to say exactly this but already said 10x better 😂
 

TomRad85

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Came here to say exactly this but already said 10x better 😂
The exact same stuff was said about Tyrese Campbell and Keiffer Moore last summer. 2 free 'unexciting' strikers who've lead their side to promotion (well soon hopefully), while we were spunking needless money on BTA.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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It seems that a lot of the speculation on here is linked to players we've seen in the EFL. However, one thing we have learned over the past couple of years is the recruitment team identifying players we've never seen or heard of. Torp, Tats, Dovin, etc.
It'll be interesting to see what they come up with this transfer window.
 

TomRad85

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It seems that a lot of the speculation on here is linked to players we've seen in the EFL. However, one thing we have learned over the past couple of years is the recruitment team identifying players we've never seen or heard of. Torp, Tats, Dovin, etc.
It'll be interesting to see what they come up with this transfer window.
We'll do both. We don't have one type of transfer strategy that we rigidly stick to like people who haven't been paying attention are suggesting. We've taken from abroad, from our own league, from league 1..
 

SHUNT31

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How much longer do we persist with Simms though on the potential he might come good? He was brought in after Gyokeres left, with Wright, to lead the line for us up top and he’s not been consistently good enough.
Agreed. Has he improved in the two years he’s been here? It’s minimal, if at all.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Salech is the one that would really interest me. Only 23, 6'3 and 8 in 20 for a relegated side.

Exactly the sort of player we could do with and fits the profile. Think he'd thrive here,
Seems a good shout. Good stats for his first half season in a different countr. Wonder how much they’d want tho as apparently spent 3-4 million on him.

 

Liquid Gold

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Seems a good shout. Good stats for his first half season in a different countr. Wonder how much they’d want tho as apparently spent 3-4 million on him.

Price is the concern with him which is why you would need a sale, ideally two with Simms and BTA and a quality freebee coming. That gives you the opportunity to make a profit while improving your forward options and spend it on the rest of the tea.

Who knew, he may have a decent relegation clause in his contract too?
 

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