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better days

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The Times is saying this morning that sharing with Coventry Rugby at The Butts is the main option after St Andrews was disqualified because it's too far from Coventry
 

kg82

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Well, don’t know where they’ve got that from. I’d actually prefer the butts over anything else, but I thought there’s a restriction on professional football being played there.

Anyway, I think they might have that wrong.

It would be nice to know who the source is.
 
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Magwitch

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If that’s true re. St Andrews being deemed too far that doesn’t leave much else does it. Knocks out Walsall, Leicester even Northampton. This Times statement needs confirming yes or no
 

better days

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I know the Butts was the club's preferred option back in Chris Anderson's time
It would be the least worst option
 
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theferret

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CRC originally had approval for up to a 12,000 capacity. That may have lapsed (not sure), but that was based on there being no changes to local infrastructure. This would have to go through planning (even temporary stands), but there would have to be a very good reason for planners to reject a proposal for a capacity up to that amount, assuming it was a solid proposal all round from a planning perspective. Time is against us though. Would like this to happen, and once we are there it would perhaps open up the possibility of a more permanent upsized development over time.
 

clint van damme

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There was a rumour on Twitter on Sunday that it's Nuneaton with temporary stands.

I'm still holding out hope we'll sort something at the Ricoh.
 

CCFC88

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My thoughts when SISU made the give us land and a 3 year rent deal at the Ricoh and we'll drop court action was that the easiest way out for the council would be to say we have no suitable land but we'll support any development at the Butts.

They seem very worried about public opinion in the lead up to local elections, they have a PR open goal here if they support Butts redevelopment and keep CCFC in the city.

They also however despise SISU so it depends how much pride they are happy to swallow.
 

Kneeza

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Talking of pitches, aren't they putting in a new pitch, (perhaps 4G?), that wouldn't be acceptable to the EFL?
That was the plan, yes, but things have changed significantly.
With what is going on next season (caveat: contracts to sign, etc) there's no way this could happen.
So I call bullshit.
 

clint van damme

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My thoughts when SISU made the give us land and a 3 year rent deal at the Ricoh and we'll drop court action was that the easiest way out for the council would be to say we have no suitable land but we'll support any development at the Butts.

They seem very worried about public opinion in the lead up to local elections, they have a PR open goal here if they support Butts redevelopment and keep CCFC in the city.

They also however despise SISU so it depends how much pride they are happy to swallow.

I've said this numerous times but the council can't give anyone the go ahead to develop the Butts.
Jon Sharp owns the club and gas specific plans of his own.
It's arrogant to think that CCFC can just turn up their and do what they want.
 

clint van damme

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That was the plan, yes, but things have changed significantly.
With what is going on next season (caveat: contracts to sign, etc) there's no way this could happen.
So I call bullshit.

What's bullshit? Cov aren't laying a new pitch or the type of pitch is prohibited by the EFL?
 

CCFC88

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It's arrogant to think that CCFC can just turn up their and do what they want.
I don't think anyone's suggesting we'd turn up and do what we'd want, those involved would see it as a win/win/win if a fair partnership was agreed upon, the only potential losers in the situation would be Wasps financially and potentially through a rise in CRFC's potential.

Still think Wasps will make a public offer to us to stay at the Ricoh however which I don't think SISU would be able to turn down publically.
 

clint van damme

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I don't think anyone's suggesting we'd turn up and do what we'd want, those involved would see it as a win/win/win if a fair partnership was agreed upon, the only potential losers in the situation would be Wasps financially and potentially through a rise in CRFC's potential.

Still think Wasps will make a public offer to us to stay at the Ricoh however which I don't think SISU would be able to turn down publically.

But why would CRFC use up valuable land developing a stadium far too big for their needs when they can develop it to open up other income streams?
I also thing the retirement village puts massive limitations on the size of any stadium development and the pros who run it have plans to expand though I don't know if theyve been given the green light.

Would be a great temporary option if there's any truth in the Times report. I'm all for anything that keeps us in Cov.
 

CCFC88

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But why would CRFC use up valuable land developing a stadium far too big for their needs when they can develop it to open up other income streams?
Would they be able to develop income streams that generate more income than say 50% (if its a true partnership) of 30 football matches per year with 10-15,000 fans.

Yes they don't need a 10-15k stadium, there's only a handful of rugby clubs in the country that do need that, Wasps are playing at a 1/3rd full stadium week in week out currently

A temporary deal if they can get the capacity to 8k would work for me, just don't see the council allowing us to starve Wasps in such a way..
 
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Cigarfingers

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Would they be able to develop income streams that generate more income than say 50% (if its a true partnership) of 30 football matches per year with 10-15,000 fans.

Yes they don't need a 10-15k stadium, there's only a handful of rugby clubs in the country that do need that, Wasps are playing at a 1/3rd full stadium week in week out currently

A temporary deal if they can get the capacity to 8k would work for me, just don't see the council allowing us to starve Wasps in such a way..


Fuck the Wasps, Fuck Sisu, Fuck the Council & the Villa too!
 

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SkyBlueDom26

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This would be excellent! Redevelop it with 3 new stands and the new 4G pitch

Perfect location with it being so close to town! Have to kick the new 'phoenix' club out first though.....
 

KeresleyArmpit

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The Butts is the dream for the majority of city fans I'd say. I'm not sure on the 4G pitch situation, whether it's happening or not, but the pitch is known for being awful and would need work regardless.

St Andrews is the next best thing and the only other ground I'd consider going to regularly. Fairplay to those in charge if these are legitimately the final 2 options.
 

ceetee

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This would be excellent! Redevelop it with 3 new stands and the new 4G pitch

Perfect location with it being so close to town! Have to kick the new 'phoenix' club out first though.....

Am I the only one who thinks that the grand plan is to install Cov.Utd. at the Ricoh...?
 

shepardo01

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Call me an old cynic, but with the council leaked e mail trying to block pro football there, Sharp wanting to develop site (and nedding ccc support) is this just a vehicle to point more at the council being obstructive (if) when it is blocked as being a possibility....
 

Captain Dart

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Lot of bonkers PR on the go. Conspiracy after conspiracy, rumour upon rumour.
 

torchomatic

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just don't see the council allowing us to starve Wasps in such a way..

And that's the issue. Why should th Council care about Wasps? They've never cared about the indigenous football club.
 

chiefdave

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The Butts would be brilliant. Obviously it would only happen if it was acceptable to CRFC but if we’re paying a rugby club rent I’d much rather them benefit than Wasps.

As for planning permission I have a feeling there’s a loophole where you can put stands up for something like 30 days without permission. It would be a pain to keep taking them up and down but could you in theory get around it that way?
 

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