Poll: The trust - fit for purpose?

[Grendel]

Pretty straightforward - I’m actually interested in the wider community view on this one

 

[Nick]

I think as individuals I can definitely relate to a couple of them, on the statements and the official things put out I can't relate in the slightest.

 

[Liquid Gold]

No chance, the only people who agree with the trust's viewpoint are those that don't go to games and sit on Facebook, getting news from the trust and telegraph shouting "SISU OUT NOPM" at any opportunity

 

[Grendel]

I’m waiting for the “what are you doing” line.

Answer: going to matches and not feeding the media with comments to make wasps life easier

 

[fernandopartridge]

No. It appears to reflect the views of a few board members above the collective view of City supporters. A few self serving statements is all it appears to deliver.

 

[chiefdave]

No chance, the only people who agree with the trust's viewpoint are those that don't go to games and sit on Facebook, getting news from the trust and telegraph shouting "SISU OUT NOPM" at any opportunity

If you look at the twitter accounts of some of the board members its just them, the chap behind the Jimmy Hill Way (who even Supporters Direct said was too extreme and needed to be distanced from the trust) and Armybike (remember him?) telling each other they're right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[no_loyalty]

They don't appear to do an awful lot.

 

[Nick]

If you look at the twitter accounts of some of the board members its just them, the chap behind the Jimmy Hill Way (who even Supporters Direct said was too extreme and needed to be distanced from the trust) and Armybike (remember him?) telling each other they're right and everyone else is wrong.

I would show you the link to the one spouting off about views on here being irrelevant and not representing city fans but he deleted his account when he had no idea how to back up what he was on about.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Surely the minimum requirement for being a board member of the supporters trust should be to have a season ticket. Not hard to have supporters doing the job is it?

 

[ccfctommy]

I think as individuals I can definitely relate to a couple of them, on the statements and the official things put out I can't relate in the slightest.

This. Some good blokes on there. The charity quiz event and stuff is good work. But it's all the rest of it. That statement for example. Appeared on Kev Monks' site hours before it appeared on their Facebook page and Twitter feed. I'm not really sure what exactly they do or how they consult their members. Hell, I'm still not too sure if I am a member. When they asked for protest ideas, I suggested red and green scarves similar to what Man It's fans were doing with the Glaziers. Simple and everyone can do it. No response. They come across as more of a SISU out pressure group than anything else.

 

[Nick]

Surely the minimum requirement for being a board member of the supporters trust should be to have a season ticket. Not hard to have supporters doing the job is it?

This is where I feel that some of them are made to look like twats because of others and tarred with the same brush.

 

[Nick]

This. Some good blokes on there. The charity quiz event and stuff is good work. But it's all the rest of it. That statement for example. Appeared on Kev Monks' site hours before it appeared on their Facebook page and Twitter feed. I'm not really sure what exactly they do or how they consult their members. Hell, I'm still not too sure if I am a member. When they asked for protest ideas, I suggested red and green scarves similar to what Man It's fans were doing with the Glaziers. Simple and everyone can do it. No response. They come across as more of a SISU out pressure group than anything else.

Re that scarves thing, I also suggested it. Was a good idea at the time.

I mentioned it in another thread that I spoke for ages to Steve who was there and he was happy to engage and discuss things even if he disagreed with views etc. I have also spoken to CJ who will discuss things and try his best but I think once it gets past them it hits a brick wall.

I feel sorry for them. Also, Moz does help the Family Zone every week at games / parties etc

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I think the Trust do represent the views of most fans, but the views of most fans aren't (always) necessarily what we need the Trust to represent.

 

[Monners]

I am not really sure what they do. I am a CCLSC member and they constantly engage with other fans. The group also has differing views on issues, but never allows that to cloud the fundamental risks to our clubs future.

 

[Magwitch]

I don’t have an opinion either way for some reason their existence seem to get on some peoples threepenny bits can’t really understand why it attracts a thread.

 

[Nick]

I don’t have an opinion either way for some reason their existence seem to get on some peoples threepenny bits can’t really understand why it attracts a thread.

It is probably something to do with the article that was posted about 5 minutes before it?

 

[Magwitch]

It is probably something to do with the article that was posted about 5 minutes before it?

Missed that what was it ?

 

[Magwitch]

Found it will have a read

 

[mark82]

The trust need to be more engaged with the club. Until they do that, what's the point?

 

[Magwitch]

Have just read through it and it does come across weak and limp wristed when imo it needs to be the opposite, who pulls their strings nowadays ?

 

[Otis]

Have just read through it and it does come across weak and limp wristed when imo it needs to be the opposite, who pulls their strings nowadays ?

Gepetto.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Surely the minimum requirement for being a board member of the supporters trust should be to have a season ticket. Not hard to have supporters doing the job is it?

I now work most Saturdays. When I had a season ticket it was a struggle to go as seeing the empty seat next to me where my Grandad used to sit was too much. I couldn’t handle it so I ended up giving the ST away. As I don’t have a ST anymore I spend the money (and more on top) buying tickets for families of the kids I teach that can’t afford to go instead. Sorry if that makes me unsuitable for the role I hold.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I now work most Saturdays. When I had a season ticket it was a struggle to go as seeing the empty seat next to me where my Grandad used to sit was too much. I couldn’t handle it so I ended up giving the ST away. As I don’t have a ST anymore I spend the money (and more on top) buying tickets for families of the kids I teach that can’t afford to go instead. Sorry if that makes me unsuitable for the role I hold.

All valid reasons for not having a season ticket and fair play to you for getting ticket for others to go but I think the point still stands that it isn't unreasonable to expect the board of supporters to be made of up season ticket holders.

 

[Grendel]

I now work most Saturdays. When I had a season ticket it was a struggle to go as seeing the empty seat next to me where my Grandad used to sit was too much. I couldn’t handle it so I ended up giving the ST away. As I don’t have a ST anymore I spend the money (and more on top) buying tickets for families of the kids I teach that can’t afford to go instead. Sorry if that makes me unsuitable for the role I hold.

I think its more the attitude of the board that is the issue to be honest?

 

[Nick]

I now work most Saturdays. When I had a season ticket it was a struggle to go as seeing the empty seat next to me where my Grandad used to sit was too much. I couldn’t handle it so I ended up giving the ST away. As I don’t have a ST anymore I spend the money (and more on top) buying tickets for families of the kids I teach that can’t afford to go instead. Sorry if that makes me unsuitable for the role I hold.

Have tried to point out in the comments about you, Moz and Steve before you across the 2 threads. Feel a bit uncomfortable that you get thrown in to reply and justify things when I very much doubt any of the stuff is actually aimed at you.

 

[Steve.B50]

Pretty straightforward - I’m actually interested in the wider community view on this one

How about you set up your own Trust ?
I am actually interested in your view on doing so.

 

[Nick]

How about you set up your own Trust ?
I am actually interested in your view on doing so.

How about the Trust setup their own football club? Same thing isn't it?

 

[Liquid Gold]

How about you set up your own Trust ?
I am actually interested in your view on doing so.

Just look at the all the other groups that have come about recently, L&W, N&B, the London group, LGBT etc. all positive fan engagement, events, working with the club and PUTTING THEIR NAME ON A STATEMENT ABOUT GETTING US A HOME!!!

 

[Liquid Gold]

How about the Trust setup their own football club?

Cov Utd have been around for ages.

 

[Steve.B50]

Have tried to point out in the comments about you, Moz and Steve before you across the 2 threads. Feel a bit uncomfortable that you get thrown in to reply and justify things when I very much doubt any of the stuff is actually aimed at you.

Presume the Steve you mention is me so I have a right to reply.
I do have a Coventry Season Ticket this season.

 

[chiefdave]

How about you set up your own Trust ?

 

[CJ_covblaze]

Have tried to point out in the comments about you, Moz and Steve before you across the 2 threads. Feel a bit uncomfortable that you get thrown in to reply and justify things when I very much doubt any of the stuff is actually aimed at you.

And I appreciate that. However when someone makes a comment good or bad on an organisation or business I’m involved with at board level I’ll do what I can to answer.

 

[Nick]

Presume the Steve you mention is me so I have a right to reply.
I do have a Coventry Season Ticket this season.

That was my point! The same as that you would always try to engage and listen whether you agreed or not (the same as CJ does).

 

[Nick]

And I appreciate that. However when someone makes a comment good or bad on an organisation or business I’m involved with at board level I’ll do what I can to answer.

Just feel it's a bit unfair that you end up sort of being the face of the "shite" that gets thrown when I doubt any of the "digs" are really even intended for you personally. Why are the other board members unwilling to engage?

Saw it the other day when somebody gave it loads and had no idea how to back it up.

 

[Steve.B50]

That was my point! The same as that you would always try to engage and listen whether you agreed or not (the same as CJ does).

Don't come on here much anymore as not worth the hassle.
Just want to point out that I am not on the Trust Board, however I go to meetings when I can and fully support the Sky Blue Trust and what they stand for.