Baker: "Screw nice football, lets FIGHT!" (4 Viewers)
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oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
First bit of sense coming out of CCFC in a long time ! Well done him. Now lets see if the players & manager follow it up with suitable actions !
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Been like it all season ICHAN what we all see here takes weeks to sink in and be realised at CCFC :facepalm:
kingharvest
New Member
Also - thats a bit rich coming from him, seeing as he weren't even looking for the free kick for their second goal - totally unprofessional.
however - i do agree with him.
however - i do agree with him.
stupot07
Well-Known Member
I don't think he means we should stop playing passing football, but we should be pressing more, getting more tackles in, getting closer and more physical when we haven't got the ball, being a bit more streetwise with grappling in the box, getting some niggly fouls in to try and wind up the opposition.
I'm sure this is what AT has been wanting them to do - the best few games we've played Forrest, burnley and whu we pressed them and harried them, the passed it round them when we had the ball.
In fact the last time he publicly said they should get more physical bigi got sent off. The problem is there isn't enough nastiness in the squad.
I'm sure this is what AT has been wanting them to do - the best few games we've played Forrest, burnley and whu we pressed them and harried them, the passed it round them when we had the ball.
In fact the last time he publicly said they should get more physical bigi got sent off. The problem is there isn't enough nastiness in the squad.
ICHAN
Well-Known Member
Theres getting stuck in and fighting for the cause and going over the top and fouling (inexperianced but this will come to the younger players).
It's about time our players started getting a bit more savvy and getting in the refs face etc like leeds for example not that I condone this but they have to start getting a bit more fire in their belly's and not accept anything and everything and becoming feared by other teams.
As has been said hoofroyd may not have been everyone's cup of tea but teams did not like playing us and knew they had been in a match.
It's about time our players started getting a bit more savvy and getting in the refs face etc like leeds for example not that I condone this but they have to start getting a bit more fire in their belly's and not accept anything and everything and becoming feared by other teams.
As has been said hoofroyd may not have been everyone's cup of tea but teams did not like playing us and knew they had been in a match.
Somewhere inbetween.
Maybe but at least we'd be putting up a fight and been hard to beat. We've played 2 teams struggling for form themselves and weve come 2nd best. The gap widens then. Also we get battered by an Ipswich team 2 months ago who are on a 7 game losing streak.
LeamingtonBootBoy
New Member
Two issues to raise with Carl Baker;
1) where is this nice football...I must have missed it
2) rather than stating the obvious, could he please highlight where/when he has displayed some fight...apart from the red card he received and the subsequent 3 match ban
Rather than tell us something we have known/said for months, Baker should start FIGHTING for his place, from which he has been ousted by a teenager.
we need more than the odd appearance from the bench, Carl.....and preferably more than you have currently shown since your transfer almost 2 years ago....
Appearances 45 + 23 sub...Goals = 3
Show a bit more 'fight' than that, eh, Carl.....:facepalm:
1) where is this nice football...I must have missed it
2) rather than stating the obvious, could he please highlight where/when he has displayed some fight...apart from the red card he received and the subsequent 3 match ban
Rather than tell us something we have known/said for months, Baker should start FIGHTING for his place, from which he has been ousted by a teenager.
we need more than the odd appearance from the bench, Carl.....and preferably more than you have currently shown since your transfer almost 2 years ago....
Appearances 45 + 23 sub...Goals = 3
Show a bit more 'fight' than that, eh, Carl.....:facepalm:
Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
We were not winning under boothroyd. We were not "grinding out results", we were losing every week!!!!!!!
BackRoomRummermill
Well-Known Member
Sounds like desperation plea to me......... we are fooked
You must have a short memory.... We were 4th this time last year.
Have you seen the league table? Were losing every week now!!!
stupot07
Well-Known Member
Yeah and then amassed 8 points from 16 games which got him the chop.
Nonleagueherewecome
Well-Known Member
You don't remember the last 2 months under "Moses" Boothroyd, obviously!
Another one with short term memory loss. Your telling me the last 2 months have been good in fact the past 4 months???
Exactly just as King was starting regularly the team went downhill. Granted king was class player but his arrival certainly upset the dressing room.
ICHAN
Well-Known Member
Don't know how people can slate bothroyds record and support AT's record weather it be a weaker team or not (subject all on it's own).
Think King had a lot to do with the sudden town turn myself, certain players may have had alter egos and may not have liked another ego coming in but something changed may have also to do with what had happened in his private life speculating obviously don't do rumours.
Think King had a lot to do with the sudden town turn myself, certain players may have had alter egos and may not have liked another ego coming in but something changed may have also to do with what had happened in his private life speculating obviously don't do rumours.
sw88
Chief Commentator!
Don't know how people can slate bothroyds record and support AT's record weather it be a weaker team or not (subject all on it's own).
Think King had a lot to do with the sudden town turn myself, certain players may have had alter egos and may not have liked another ego coming in but something changed may have also to do with what had happened in his private life speculating obviously don't do rumours.
i agree about King's arrival. There was a noticable change when he came to the club, and considering his arrival was supposed to be the finishing touch to Boothroyd's plans, it kind of back fired and had the opposite effect.
WillieStanley
New Member
How about Boothroyd and Thorn as joint managers for the best of both worlds
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sw88
Chief Commentator!
they'd be forever at logger heads. Imagine them on the touchline. Be pike two school kids tryijg to better each other, and both failing (badly)
SkyBlue_Bear83
Well-Known Member
I don't think King was the reason for a drop in form, I think people are using this as a silver lining to try and convince themselves we are better off without King.
A more major factor was injuries to Carsley and Turner meaning or defence had become softer and we couldn't hold onto a lead and teams figuring out how to play us.
A more major factor was injuries to Carsley and Turner meaning or defence had become softer and we couldn't hold onto a lead and teams figuring out how to play us.
brinner
Member
yep, basically play the way we did v west ham only do it week in, week out, not just against the big sides.
unfortunately this has pretty much been the case in the 28 years i have supported ccfc.
sw88
Chief Commentator!
Not in my case.
I said at the time that under Boothroyd, when we got King, the rest of the squad looked demorilised, and disinterested, as the new kid on the block was taking all the limelight. I also admitted at the same time, that King was too GOOD for our team, and may have been a cause for others to become upset. Also players who were worthy of a starting place, lost their place because of him.
However, if we talk about the King we seen under Thorn, then I agree we miss him! And we certainly arent better off without him! The whole squad looked decent! Maybe it was Boothroyd who was treating King differently to everyone else, where as AT didnt! He doesnt seem the type to pussy-foot around players, unlike Boothroyd.
johnniericoh
Member
"Screw nice football lets FIGHT" - yes that plus:
How about "stop passing backwards and sidewards, strikers to play up front not down flanks, play attacking football, more movement/vision/goals from midfield, stop conceding last minute goals, play consistently for 90+ minutes" - I could go on.
The Diamond is dead !!!
Too few shots
Too few goals
Too few points
Result of Diamond (1) = bottom of league 7 points from safety
Result of Diamond (2) = mountain to climb need 10 more wins at least to survive
Result of Diamond (3) = near certainty for relegation
PUSB
How about "stop passing backwards and sidewards, strikers to play up front not down flanks, play attacking football, more movement/vision/goals from midfield, stop conceding last minute goals, play consistently for 90+ minutes" - I could go on.
The Diamond is dead !!!
Too few shots
Too few goals
Too few points
Result of Diamond (1) = bottom of league 7 points from safety
Result of Diamond (2) = mountain to climb need 10 more wins at least to survive
Result of Diamond (3) = near certainty for relegation
PUSB
Tankie
New Member
I can't understand,fans of any team you care to name, condoning the Idea "Stuff pretty Football" forgive me for thinking, that the whole experience of going to the games on a Saturday afternoon, is centered on our team outplaying the opposition with neat passing Football, the principle must be correct surely to God.We have been undone, by mistakes at the back, mainly due to the inexperience of some of our players, the playing model IE passing foot ball from our defence, instead of hoofing it foreward, which nearly always results in the thing coming straight back at us.
Despite our sorry state, which I agree is dire, I'll stick to my guns, and repeat my opinion, that the Football under Andy Thorn, is the most rewarding to watch since we've been at the Ricoh, Total lack of funding for the Manager is to blame, Not the Style of Football he Believes in
Respect as ever...Tankie..
Despite our sorry state, which I agree is dire, I'll stick to my guns, and repeat my opinion, that the Football under Andy Thorn, is the most rewarding to watch since we've been at the Ricoh, Total lack of funding for the Manager is to blame, Not the Style of Football he Believes in
Respect as ever...Tankie..
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Ah yes, but we weren't fourth when Boothroyd was sacked, which I think was the point NLHWC was making.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
Dont think anyone wants us to stop playing passing football Tankie just want us to do it with some passion & desire, maybe even do it in the other teams half ! We are a soft touch at the moment and need to toughen up and fight to stay in this division - fighting for the right doesnt mean you give up passing the ball, it does mean working ya tabs off, get in players faces, getting tackles in, doing the dirtier side of the game well, playing for the right to wear the shirt etc.
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