how have we changed so much in so little time (1 Viewer)

[Evo1883]

We have'nt lost 2 games in a row in 10 months in the league , since March 7th only a short while after SP left .
we are only losing 1 in 4 games under mogga overall , this season its 1 in 6 , we are consistent and can only see us getting stronger with new recruits.
We are already 18 points better off than after 25 games last season .
So what has changed , why is tony mowbray doing so much better than past managers (adams , coleman , thorn , pressley , boothroyd etc ) with virtually the same financial restraints put on him .
is he the best manager we have had since the top flight days , would mogga have won us promotion to the prem with colemans teams .
its remarkable what he is achieving at ccfc at the moment .

 

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[edgy]

We have'nt lost 2 games in a row in 10 months in the league , since March 7th only a short while after SP left .
we are only losing 1 in 4 games under mogga overall , this season its 1 in 6 , we are consistent and can only see us getting stronger with new recruits.
We are already 18 points better off than after 25 games last season .
So what has changed , why is tony mowbray doing so much better than past managers (adams , coleman , thorn , pressley , boothroyd etc ) with virtually the same financial restraints put on him .
is he the best manager we have had since the top flight days , would mogga have won us promotion to the prem with colemans teams .
its remarkable what he is achieving at ccfc at the moment .

Very much the best manager in recent years but I'm beginning to think that the owners must be allowing him more funds this term.

 

[Nick]

With the things that are happening, it is very hard to think the budget is the same as when we were signing Malaga and Manset isn't it?

 

[rupert_bear]

He is an element of an old fashioned manager but spreads the load to trusted lieutenants who know their jobs. Also was a bit lucky to have a blank canvas to work off, hardly any baggage but he obviously also knows the scene has the respect in the game, we are so lucky to have him at the helm and we will get better

 

[Nick]

It was interesting reading what he said about Venus. He leaves money and business to Venus, while Mowbray is on the pitch wearing his boots doing training. Then Venus gives him lists to choose from.

 

[ajsccfc]

I still say Kevin Malaga is the most glamorous signing in club history. Not for footballing reasons, just dishy ones.

 

[Hobo]

Mowbrey knows his limitations and knows Venus's strengths. Together a clued up partnership. He also has a developed network of contacts who trust his judgement and development of players. He is experienced enough to know how and when to say the right things.

Waggot meant well and I think he had some good qualities, ticketing and contracts....however spotting players wasn't one.

Waggot said Pressley had the final say but was that only on a Waggott selection? Couldnt help but notice that once Pressley berated our scouting system and called in a few favours; we saw the arrival of Pennington, Samuel and Stokes.

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

It was interesting reading what he said about Venus. He leaves money and business to Venus, while Mowbray is on the pitch wearing his boots doing training. Then Venus gives him lists to choose from.

Thats the key part to our success for me, the relationship between those 2. Plus we have not anybody from Sisu stivking their oar in. Reading the latest TSF book and he states there are owners in the game who take active decisions to stop success...

 

[skybluejelly]

I personally think the difference is getting rid of Waggott .. where as Pressley had his pick of what Waggot offered him Mowbray and Venus are very much there own men and have insisted on choosing there own players ..also like Mowbray has stated before having no Coventry insignia at the training ground, fixing the car park , painting the coaches .. all in all a more professional approach and I think sisu have seen the difference it makes to the team

 

[Ian1779]

With the things that are happening, it is very hard to think the budget is the same as when we were signing Malaga and Manset isn't it?

Or we were paying far too much for players like them.

 

[Ranjit Bhurpa]

Unlike some of his predecessors who were perhaps desperate for a job, I suspect TM accepted the job on his terms alone and was therefore very much in the driving seat during negotiations. Obviously he has managed at the highest level and knows what it takes to gain promotion, how to build a team (on and off field) and his man management skills appear to be top drawer, but perhaps it was also a case of 'right club, right time' and a combination of events have come together and struck lucky? Maybe he needed to reuild his career and reputation, and project CCFC came along at just the right time?

Whatever the reasons, he exudes professionalism (and a little bit of realism too) and has awoken the sleeping giant from its slumbers. It's remarkable really the turnaround in only 30 or so league games from relegation possibilities to genuine promotion candidates.

 

[italiahorse]

Very much the best manager in recent years but I'm beginning to think that the owners must be allowing him more funds this term.

We are working within budget so it's more likely down to crowds.
Would be interested to see what proportion of the 60% FFP money we got for this season and last season.

Still amazes me how a team like Burton do so well.

 

[rupert_bear]

We don't really know what the budget was or is £2.5million seems to be the popular figure but is it ? And taking Joe Cole out of the equation none of any we have signed have cost an arm and a leg. They, Mowbray and Venus have spent brilliantly and over came the loss of Reda Johnson superbly, in fact you can't wait for the next newbie and we have two yet to see in Lorenzan and Rose.

 

[Warwickhunt]

With the things that are happening, it is very hard to think the budget is the same as when we were signing Malaga and Manset isn't it?

I would like to know what salary those two players commanded Nick! i bet they were on 5K +

 

[wingy]

I would like to know what salary those two players commanded Nick! i bet they were on 5K +

Think they'd have been happy to have got £2-3k tbf after being paid in euros before.

 

[Gazolba]

[h=1]how have we changed so much in so little time?

[/h]So little time? Hasn't it been nearly 30 years?

 

[Chipfat]

I think TM was in control from the moment he walked into the London Office before the season started, he knew what he wanted and made JS understand his way or find someone else. JS for all her faults she knew that TM was experienced and strong enough to deal with the responsibility of handling the club. TM also knew SW was not or ever going to be of the standard of MV on the playing side, so SW out MV would of been on the table is my guess once MV proved himself. Slowly but surely TM is getting his way and by showing progress on the field and in the stands JS is seeing he is the Golden ticket for an exit if the investors have enough and want out.

TM biggest challenge lies ahead, if promotion is gained another meeting in London will be held and that maybe is when we really see if JS has complete confidence in TM, as he will have to be backed more so than now. This squad although decent, does not have enough depth to compete week in week out in the championship and would need a decent amount of investment to stabilize itself within that league before trying to gain entrance to the Premiership.

 

[coop]

Thank SP for keeping us up the season we got deducted points and playing away from home every week if we had gone down there is no way we would be in the great position we are now.I think we deserve what is happening at the moment as it's been so shit for so long 6 points next two games and promotion is on the card's.

 

[Paxman II]

Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus deserve the lions share of what has happened to us. They remind me a little of the Clough/Taylor partnership.
It's the best we have had since the premiership without doubt.

At our current level in league 1 we should be very grateful for having the likes of these two in our camp.

An once or two of credit to SISU for finally realizing they needed someone of TM caliber and to give him the autonomy and some financial backing to help reach a target everyone aspires to and stop the behind the scenes nonsense that was once so disruptive. But it's only an once or two the main reason is TM make no mistake on that!

 

[RFC]

We have'nt lost 2 games in a row in 10 months in the league , since March 7th only a short while after SP left .
we are only losing 1 in 4 games under mogga overall , this season its 1 in 6 , we are consistent and can only see us getting stronger with new recruits.
We are already 18 points better off than after 25 games last season .
So what has changed , why is tony mowbray doing so much better than past managers (adams , coleman , thorn , pressley , boothroyd etc ) with virtually the same financial restraints put on him .
is he the best manager we have had since the top flight days , would mogga have won us promotion to the prem with colemans teams .
its remarkable what he is achieving at ccfc at the moment .

Obviously SISU ( and those running & steering the club ) got something right!
Some might say finally but it's turned out to be a superb appointment, long may it continue! PUSB

 

[wingy]

Obviously SISU ( and those running & steering the club ) got something right!
Some might say finally but it's turned out to be a superb appointment, long may it continue! PUSB

So what do you think made them have such a huge shift in strategy then RFC?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I personally think the difference is getting rid of Waggott .. where as Pressley had his pick of what Waggot offered him Mowbray and Venus are very much there own men and have insisted on choosing there own players ..also like Mowbray has stated before having no Coventry insignia at the training ground, fixing the car park , painting the coaches .. all in all a more professional approach and I think sisu have seen the difference it makes to the team

They are football men choosing footballerswere as Waggott was an administrator and could choose players about as well as you and I (although you could be the chief scout for all I know)

 

[Grendel]

Obviously SISU ( and those running & steering the club ) got something right!
Some might say finally but it's turned out to be a superb appointment, long may it continue! PUSB

Oddly of course it's the one thing you actually criticised sisu for as according to you we had lost in Pressley a future premier league manager.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

The other thing that will be helping the budget is not picking the wrong players and then having to pay them off like Malaga and a few others.

 

[Gazolba]

Thank SP for keeping us up the season we got deducted points and playing away from home every week<snip>.

Yes SP did for us like an old banger a student buys before he can buy a real car. Now we are driving in a Jaguar.

 

[dongonzalos]

Obviously SISU ( and those running & steering the club ) got something right!
Some might say finally but it's turned out to be a superb appointment, long may it continue! PUSB

RFC you don't post much on here these days.

 

[dongonzalos]

AT

The likes of

Murphy
Mcdonald
Malaga
Fleck
Edge
Reece Brown
Callum Ball
Dunn
Mcgoldrick (weeks after he was sacked)
(Struggling to remember others)

Under Robins the likes of

Baily
Reckford
Henderson
Clarke
Moussa

(Sorry I am sure there were others)

Pressley

Manset
Slager
Webster
Dagnall
McGuire
Seabourne
Marshall
Johnson
Tudguy
Jackson
RCC
Nouble
Martin
Madine
The 3 lads from Bournmouth
Nouble
Hines
Pugh


TM

Armstrong
Cole
Murphy
Kent
Ricketts
Turner
Biggie
Rose
Swedish Zanetti
Vincelot

Ex WBA lad, middlesborough lad

TM is a legend

 

[Skyblueweeman]

So what do you think made them have such a huge shift in strategy then RFC?

They had enough of him banging on about 'any week now, any week now, any week now' that they got bored and pulled their fingers out and did something useful.


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[Skyblueweeman]

AT

The likes of

Murphy
Mcdonald
Malaga
Fleck
Edge
Reece Brown
Callum Ball
Dunn
Mcgoldrick (weeks after he was sacked)
(Struggling to remember others)

Under Robins the likes of

Baily
Reckford
Henderson
Clarke
(Sorry I am sure there were others)

Pressley

Manset
Slager
Webster
Dagnall
McGuire
Seabourne
Marshall
Johnson
Tudguy
Jackson
RCC
Nouble
Martin
Madine
The 3 lads from Bournmouth
Nouble
Hines
Pugh

TM

Armstrong
Cole
Murphy
Kent
Ricketts
Turner
Biggie
Rose
Swedish Zanetti

Ex WBA lad, middlesborough lad

TM is a legend

To be fair, although TM has been consistently better in the transfer market, the others did bring in some good players.


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[dongonzalos]

To be fair, although TM has been consistently better in the transfer market, the others did bring in some good players.

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There will be loads I missed just did it off the top of my head

You could make a decent championship squad from that lot

 

[Astute]

To be fair, although TM has been consistently better in the transfer market, the others did bring in some good players.

And how many shit ones?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

You know that's not the point I was trying to make Astute...we all know that they brought in a lot of dross but between them, they also brought in Fleck, McGoldrick, Clarke, RCC, Bailey, Johnson, Marshall and McGuire. All successful signings.


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[Astute]

You know that's not the point I was trying to make Astute...we all know that they brought in a lot of dross but between them, they also brought in Fleck, McGoldrick, Clarke, RCC, Bailey, Johnson, Marshall and McGuire. All successful signings.


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Over how many seasons?

And how many were really a success?

 

[Brylowes]

A football club is like any other place of work,be it office ,factory,shop whatever.if you go in the morning feeling apart of something.Striving towards something.Feeling valued & appreciated you will perform to a much higher standard.Take a bow T M & co

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Over how many seasons?

And how many were really a success?

Can a player only be judged if he's played xx amount of games??

You can't deny that those players mentioned all did well or have done well whilst here?


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