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Jack Griffin
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This cash flow positive thing is temporary, in the close season they will inevitably be cash flow negative, all clubs are! It is the balance over a season or more that is important.
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This cash flow positive thing is temporary, in the close season they will inevitably be cash flow negative, all clubs are! It is the balance over a season or more that is important.
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Jack Griffin
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They will never get that will they?
Looking at last year, Leic Tigers averaged 22K, then there were 7 other teams averaging over 10K, pretty evenly spread from 18K to 11K.. Wasps averaged 14K, so they must have played somewhere else than Adams park a few times.
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letsallsingtogether
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Jack Griffin
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No more like 25,000
Well, I don't really care.. it is Rugby..
NorthernWisdom
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A mentalist said:
letsallsingtogether
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I do, surly the bigger crowds they get hopefully they will be able to keep CCFC rent down, something someone could ask at the Trust meeting on Monday....
duffer
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Why would they want to keep CCFC rent down? Wasps are a business, not a charity. They'll want CCFC to pay as much as they can afford - Wasps crowds will be an irrelevance to this.
I don't know whether some people here have really grasped this yet - Wasps buying out ACL isn't (despite CCC claims) likely to benefit the club. We might, as fans, been able to put some pressure on the council to cut CCFC a deal on certain things, we'll have very little chance of making Wasps do that.
All Wasps will want from us is the rent, their only interest in us is that we survive to maintain those payments.
stupot07
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A number of them must have played "home" fixtures at different unless
London Irish, harlequins, Saracens and wasps all have stadiums with capacity of 60k+....and I don't believe Adams park meet the 15k Heineken cup requirement...
So the stats are a bit skewed. http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/HomeAttendance?comp_id=436
http://archive.nowrugby.com/mb/index.php?p=/discussion/123686/attendance-figures-2013-14
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MichaelCCFC
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If the rumours are right, the rent we are paying is minimal so cannot be a key part of wasps business strategy when they need to be covering the £3m losses they've been making each season and presumably they would like to make a lot more than that to turn wasps into a truly top franchise. No one has provided a single fact as to why wasps will be good for ccfc - it's just wishful thinking and desperation for something good to happen to us. It is far more likely that Wasps plan is based on maximising non-sporting revenue from the ricoh with ccfc arguably an irrelevance in wasps overall plan.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Well Michael we are an irrelevance to a lot of people including the majority of fans we had seven years ago.
MichaelCCFC
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You're not wrong. I hadn't been to Colchester before and it was another one of those moments of realising how far we have fallen. In our eyes we remain important but for wasps it seems they're doing excellent pr but when they are striving to be a top rugby brand the idea that their ambition might include concern for a third tier football team with crowds of 8k seems fanciful
The Gentleman
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Duffer, I usually agree with a lot of what you say on this forum but can you please explain to me how exactly we as fans putting pressure on CCC would have got CCFC a good deal. Because surely for that to happen then Sisu/Otium would have to get on board. That has never been the case and wouldn't have been at the eleventh hour, the bid they put in was only to keep the remaining fans of CCFC happy because they knew that bid would never have been accepted. Anybody who thinks different is fooling themselves. Don't forget, we are building a new stadium.................
I am still waiting for confirmation they have paid anything yet for what they have "bought" let alone what they might buy
MichaelCCFC
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Just don't see why they'd want to. they want to be a top rugby brand. Why handicap that by taking on a third tier football basketcase which requires major investment to make progress and is never likely to be a brand like man u, chelsea etc. We would just be a drain on wasps resources and distract from their actual ambition
covmark
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This again??
I can't think of anything worse, swapping shit hedge fund for a bunch of idiots who have no qualms about franchising sports teams.
On the plus side for some on here, it'll give you someone else to fawn over until they show their true colours.
The Gentleman
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What do you propose then? happy to stick with Sisu because their plan seems to be working well, doesn't it? Can you guarantee 100% that Wasps would be as bad as SiSU, because I can tell you 100% that Sisu have been a total disaster.
italiahorse
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They have shown there true colours.
They have committed to the Ricoh within minutes rather than pussy around and put the club back at least 50 years.
NorthernWisdom
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None of the above.
Moff
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Jesus you really love Wasps dont you.
Now can you explain why the fekk they would want to buy my club? I say my as I am not really sure if you just post on here as a Wasps fan now?*
(*Joke)
Brighton Sky Blue
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Nobody can guarantee anything in the future. However look at the layers of holding companies in Wasps' business which ultimately lead to a generically named company registered in Malta. Derek Richardson is no different to Seppala-he relocated the club to Coventry for starters.
fernandopartridge
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The parallels with SISU are uncanny.
Brighton Sky Blue
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They will take on another dimension if that temporary rent agreement expires and we have nothing else lined up.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Wasps wouldn't even be the ones taking us over. It would be 'Fiduciary Holdings Ltd' or something to that effect.
letsallsingtogether
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Why the hell would the owner of Wasps take over CCFC he has a few Quid, but he would have to have a lot more to take us over.
Or will Sisu take the debt with them for free?
Owning one club is madness owning 2 non profitable clubs is just suicidal..
Or will Sisu take the debt with them for free?
Owning one club is madness owning 2 non profitable clubs is just suicidal..
The Gentleman
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At least they know how to buy a stadium. Just imagine if the parallels were uncanny and Sisu could've actually bought the Ricoh. Mind you, what would some of the drama queens on here have to moan about if Wasps hadn't bought the Ricoh, oh yes that's it, they would be moaning about a white elephant or something about CCC.
NorthernWisdom
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It's OK, we'd have plenty to moan about as the parallels would see us buy Adams park
covmark
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Or they'd be moaning about a Coventry children's charity being ripped off. Or the community asset is in the grubby hands of the evil Sisu.
"True Colours" ?? abandoned their London home and moved 70 miles
"Minutes"??? They have been lurking for about 2 years
Didn't have to "pussy foot" CCC were desperate to get anyone in except SISU and have put it in a cat bowl for them
skybluetony176
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Aside from the fact that they knew how to take over ACL when SISU got it so so wrong.
Are you sure they got it wrong????
Let us see the full WASPS deal before we judge. Except of course only being a Coventry tax payer I am not allowed to know!
skybluetony176
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I think you've hit the nail on the head LAST. Unless SISU take their debt with them Administration is the only way someone would take us on.
MichaelCCFC
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Chief Exec of a southern rugby club turns up in the West Midlands at a meeting for football supporters - only question would seem to be 'are you lost?'