Get VAR in the fucking bin (2 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Nope. In that scenario yesterday, no.

It's such a close call isn't it. So, I think, as VAR, you look at it and if it's that close, you go with the on-field decision. So if the linesman raised his flag, that's what you go with.

There wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. Should be like in cricket.

No clear and obvious error whichever way the officials called it yesterday. Should have gone with that.

This isn’t in reality how VAR works is it?

 

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[Johhny Blue]

This isn’t in reality how VAR works is it?

Sadly it’s not. We need a new CSVAR
(Common Sense)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This isn’t in reality how VAR works is it?

Hence why he said ‘should’ multiple times

 

[Liquid Gold]

So what non-tiny margin would you use? There has to be some sort of limit, and any event at or near that limit would cause the same sort of discussion/uproar

Limit of if they have to start drawing lines it isn't obvious and they go with on field decision.

We fuck up VAR so much in this country, every time a World Cup or Euros comes around then it is fine.

This time we were just cheated though.

 

[Otis]

This isn’t in reality how VAR works is it?

No. It would be common sense though to implement it that way.

I have consistently said, VAR needs fine-tuning and changing, because as it stands, it is detrimental to the game

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I work with a Barcelona fan who said they had a goal chalked off against Madrid last night because La Liga don’t use goalline tech, just relying on VAR to see if the ball crosses the line. This being despite the Bernabeu having the technology, they just turned it off for league games.

Why is common sense so hard to find in this sport?

 

[Grendel]

No. It would be common sense though to implement it that way.

I have consistently said, VAR needs fine-tuning and changing, because as it stands, it is detrimental to the game

But that’s never going to be the reality - it isn’t in cricket

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It needs to be, Pete.

Or even have a clear definition of when the ball is deemed to be played
That’s it email doing into John Taylor coo saying he has our full auppprt to ask for pictures and audio and to clarify the playing of the ball as it appears the wrong still is being used
They should demand compensation

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Or even have a clear definition of when the ball is deemed to be played
That’s it email doing into John Taylor coo saying he has our full auppprt to ask for pictures and audio and to clarify the playing of the ball as it appears the wrong still is being used
They should demand compensation

In order of importance I’d be fine with:

1. Compensation
2. The audio
3. An apology

 

[Grendel]

In order of importance I’d be fine with:

1. Compensation
2. The audio
3. An apology

I think fortunately King and Robins are more sensible than pushing nonsense like that

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think fortunately King and Robins are more sensible than pushing nonsense like that

Pushing nonsense is wanting Robins sacked every season

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think fortunately King and Robins are more sensible than pushing nonsense like that

What’s nonsense about asking for clarity on the law and some transparency

 

[Grendel]

What’s nonsense about asking for clarity on the law and some transparency

It’s bonkers as it suggests a conspiracy and suddenly we along with Forest fight some stupid campaign we can’t win

For the record I think VAR is a joke system and should be scrapped but it’s not a hill to die on

 

[Matt smith]

To have that moment taken away because of a toe nail is why var will always be shit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s bonkers as it suggests a conspiracy and suddenly we along with Forest fight some stupid campaign we can’t win

For the record I think VAR is a joke system and should be scrapped but it’s not a hill to die on

Nobody is suggesting going down the Forest route of threatening legal action. Just some transparency about what happened and some official acceptance that they fucked up.

Howard Webb apologises on behalf of PGMOL most weeks

 

[Grendel]

Nobody is suggesting going down the Forest route of threatening legal action. Just some transparency about what happened and some official acceptance that they fucked up.

Howard Webb apologises on behalf of PGMOL most weeks

You said push for compensation?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You said push for compensation?

Yes as in the missed prize money not a lawsuit

 

[Grendel]

Yes as in the missed prize money not a lawsuit

So how do you get that without taking on the EFL and setting a precedent?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So how do you get that without taking on the EFL and setting a precedent?

It isn’t the EFL’s competition for a start. We are talking about a winning goal with essentially the last kick of the game. The money is of no consequence to Man Utd either

 

[Grendel]

It isn’t the EFL’s competition for a start. We are talking about a winning goal with essentially the last kick of the game. The money is of no consequence to Man Utd either

Oh ok so it’s the FA and / or Man U you want to take on?

Bit silly and hot headed - hence my original comment

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Oh ok so it’s the FA and / or Man U you want to take on?

Bit silly and hot headed - hence my original comment

‘Take on’, it’s a request to be made, nothing like what Forest are doing.

Bit silly and hot headed to want Robins sacked every time we go through a sticky patch yet it never stops you

 

[Grendel]

‘Take on’, it’s a request to be made, nothing like what Forest are doing.

Bit silly and hot headed to want Robins sacked every time we go through a sticky patch yet it never stops you

Asking for compensation isn’t a request - it’s trying to get an admission of wrong doing and setting a precedent

 

[clint van damme]

Asking for compensation isn’t a request - it’s trying to get an admission of wrong doing and setting a precedent

Yeah, won't happen and pointless to even try going up that blind alley. Calling for more transparency is probably more realistic, I would love an explanation for yesterday.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Asking for compensation isn’t a request - it’s trying to get an admission of wrong doing and setting a precedent

Then we revert to option 2 and ask for the audio

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Did Greggs get banned again? What for this time?

Well you should know.

 

[Grendel]

Yeah, won't happen and pointless to even try going up that blind alley. Calling for more transparency is probably more realistic, I would love an explanation for yesterday.

Again though it’s questioning integrity and will achieve nothing

it’s not the worst miscarriage of justice in a semi final at Wembley - poor decisions happen

 

[Grendel]

Then we revert to option 2 and ask for the audio

Why? What will this achieve?

 

[shmmeee]

Well you should know.

 

[clint van damme]

Again though it’s questioning integrity and will achieve nothing

it’s not the worst miscarriage of justice in a semi final at Wembley - poor decisions happen

I see it as just providing clarity.

Surely the football authorities would prefer not to have this sort of negative press week in and week out?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why? What will this achieve?

An explanation for a decision that virtually everyone who has seen it thinks is wrong

 

[MalcSB]

Or even have a clear definition of when the ball is deemed to be played
That’s it email doing into John Taylor coo saying he has our full auppprt to ask for pictures and audio and to clarify the playing of the ball as it appears the wrong still is being used
They should demand compensation

Pete, thinking about this, the definition is played or touched, with touched being defined as first point of contact.
There has to be a difference between playing the ball and touching the ball.

For example, a striker is alone in the opposition’s half when his goalkeeper catches the ball from an opponents cross. That is first contact.

The GK holds the ball, only for 6 seconds obviously, during which time the aforementioned striker moves in to his own half. The GK kicks the ball and the striker heads it on to a fellow player who runs through and scores a goal. No one would be saying the striker was offside, would they, but if first contact by the GK was the rule, the striker would have been.

The reality is that, in general, it is when the ball is played. The “touched” element comes in to force when a ball played by player 1 hits (touches, first contacts) player 2 and rebounds to player 3 who is in an offside position.

So, in this case, the offside should have been measured when the ball leaves O’Hare’s foot, which it does in a very unconventional way. The ball hasn’t left his foot when it’s still on or very near the ground. The frame is, therefore, the wrong one. Haji is holding his run and pointing where he wants the ball whilst AWB continues his wrong. Haji is more likely to be onside than not at the point the ball is played to him.

 

[clint van damme]

I don’t watch Family Guy so don’t get it

Not a fan of the new username Boosh, I appreciate you're running out of them but it's a bit aggressive.

Treat people with kindnesssssssss!

 

[Liquid Gold]

Always liked Baker

 

[MalcSB]

Yes as in the missed prize money not a lawsuit

Sisu batter people in court.

 

[gspotgaz]

Another angle found from a Man Utd vlog on YouTube exact moment it leaves o’hares foot. Did VAR fucking photoshop that angle they used or something