You're in Robins shoes, what would you do? (1 Viewer)

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

If you was MR and it's Monday morning (29th) you had one or two targets and contingency plans in place would you accept a fair bid off the back of Willis's solid performances to push the button on one or two strikers to hopefully see us over the line to bolster the attack.

You've still 3 days business to get a deal done so plenty of time as you've contingency plans in place for extra players and targets should we draw a top club in the cup for a pay day.

Or would you stick and do no more business and be happy with a solid defensive unit and hope your forwards carry on as they were say 2 games ago, with uncertainty still as to if Biamou would score 8 goals this season

Oh and you drew Wigan away in the fa cup later that day in a disappointing cup tie. So no bumper cash boost.

Otis · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
If you was MR and it's Monday morning (29th) you had one or two targets and contingency plans in place would you accept a fair bid off the back of Willis's solid performances to push the button on one or two strikers to hopefully see us over the line to bolster the attack.

You've still 3 days business to get a deal done so plenty of time as you've contingency plans in place for extra players and targets should we draw a top club in the cup for a pay day.

Or would you stick and do no more business and be happy with a solid defensive unit and hope your forwards carry on as they were say 2 games ago, with uncertainty still as to if Biamou would score 8 goals this season

Oh and you drew Wigan away in the fa cup later that day in a disappointing cup tie. So no bumper cash boost.

Oh no!!! You've dropped the W bomb, CC4L is going to spontaneously combust.

For what it's worth we do have 4 decent centre backs. Three very good ones in Davies, Willis and McDonald and a decent looking one in Hyam.

I wonder how far away Thompson is from making the step up.

Don't want to sell any of them, but Willis would surely attract the most interest.

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Jan 28, 2018

Keep the squad together even if it means no more coming in rather than selling Willis or Bayliss to find a couple of permanent or loans.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Otis said:
Oh no!!! You've dropped the W bomb, CC4L is going to spontaneously combust.

For what it's worth we do have 4 decent centre backs. Three very good ones in Davies, Willis and McDonald and a decent looking one in Hyam.

I wonder how far away Thompson is from making the step up.

Don't want to sell any of them, but Willis would surely attract the most interest.

In all fairness to CC4L I've asked him on another thread after a little discussion.

Thought I'd put it out for wider debate to see what the feeling was.

For the record I'd cash in on Willis due to the depth in the squad at the back but I'd be inquiring into Ben Richards-Everton at Accrington at the same time who out of contract this summer.

Ultimately I feel we're a hamstring or groin away from missing out on promotion so I'd take the cash, invest in the targets set out and attempt to secure promotion with it in our hands

* edit now draw Utd or city home or away my decision changes but like I said in the question we get Wigan

Grendel · Jan 28, 2018

I’d sign a striker - a number 9 - and move one of the centre halves of we have to. McDonald is too slow for league 1 so preferably him. Haynes could be on his way.

Otis · Jan 28, 2018

Grendel said:
I’d sign a striker - a number 9 - and move one of the centre halves of we have to. McDonald is too slow for league 1 so preferably him. Haynes could be on his way.

Which is why I didn't mention Stokes in my list. If Haynes goes that pretty much rules Stokes out as an option for centre back. Leahy has gone and Camwell, well who knows, but he's not even in the picture at the moment.

wingy · Jan 28, 2018

Otis said:
Which is why I didn't mention Stokes in my list. If Haynes goes that pretty much rules Stokes out as an option for centre back. Leahy has gone and Camwell, well who knows, but he's not even in the picture at the moment.

Who's been playing LB for U23's? Haynes recently I take it .
The young lad needs to be involved or we waste him IMO.
He made a good debut last season, bit harsh farming him out to Solihul.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Otis said:
Which is why I didn't mention Stokes in my list. If Haynes goes that pretty much rules Stokes out as an option for centre back. Leahy has gone and Camwell, well who knows, but he's not even in the picture at the moment.

wingy said:
Who's been playing LB for U23's? Haynes recently I take it .
The young lad needs to be involved or we waste him IMO.
He made a good debut last season, bit harsh farming him out to Solihul.

Camwell was at the game yesterday, was larking around with some mates applauding the players getting on the bus for around 10 minutes.

Not sure why it's harsh sending him out on loan to a club a league below?

Needs experience or he goes down the same path all the kids do in the 1st with no experience

Londonccfcfan · Jan 28, 2018

Squad is good as it stands at the moment. Yes I would agree with one signing another No9 in case of injuries etc.

I don't see where Vincente now fits into the team? id move him on just to be fair on him. we have tried and tested formula now , where Shipley has done well, and bought in two wingers in Barratt and JMD, and also Bayliss seems he can do a job on the Right hand side when hes not in the Centre. Now Dion K E seems to be a an option further up the pitch on the right.

Our squad is too big as it stands.

Need to move on Reid/Devon K E/ Vincenti / Beavon.in next few days and buy a striker.

Londonccfcfan · Jan 28, 2018

Reid is a concern, he needs to go in next 3 days or we are stuck with him.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Londonccfcfan said:
Squad is good as it stands at the moment. Yes I would agree with one signing another No9 in case of injuries etc.

I don't see where Vincente now fits into the team? id move him on just to be fair on him. we have tried and tested formula now , where Shipley has done well, and bought in two wingers in Barratt and JMD, and also Bayliss seems he can do a job on the Right hand side when hes not in the Centre. Now Dion K E seems to be a an option further up the pitch on the right.

Our squad is too big as it stands.

Need to move on Reid/Devon K E/ Vincenti / Beavon.in next few days and buy a striker.

So if no other option of saucing cash is available to you to get a No9 in, plus stuck with Reid would you accept the hypothetical Willis bid to press ahead or go as you are with the squad

Londonccfcfan · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
So if no other option of saucing cash is available to you to get a No9 in, plus stuck with Reid would you accept the hypothetical Willis bid to press ahead or go as you are with the squad

The cash should be there! Is there if he wants to do business.

If Biamou hadn't scored 2 in 2 and put in good performances last 2 games I would have been more concerned.

We wont sell anyone. it would have to be silly money. It would have to be a struggling Championship Club to come in for 500k for Willis. no struggling league 1 club can afford any of our players tbh.

wingy · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
Camwell was at the game yesterday, was larking around with some mates applauding the players getting on the bus for around 10 minutes.

Not sure why it's harsh sending him out on loan to a club a league below?

Needs experience or he goes down the same path all the kids do in the 1st with no experience

If I were him with his ability I wouldn't see it as progression.

bawtryneal · Jan 28, 2018

First thing Robins should do tomorrow .........

Ask for a pay rise.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Londonccfcfan said:
The cash should be there! Is there if he wants to do business.

If Biamou hadn't scored 2 in 2 and put in good performances last 2 games I would have been more concerned.

We wont sell anyone. it would have to be silly money. It would have to be a struggling Championship Club to come in for 500k for Willis. no struggling league 1 club can afford any of our players tbh.

Problem is I doubt the cash is there, fa cup money currently possibly settles the books. So that's why I came up with the hypothetical keep or sell scenario and drawing Wigan in the cup.

I'm more worried we don't have the depth up top like we're blessed with at the back.

Should a bid come it would have to be a very very good offer which MR has basically said it would need to be to part with any player.

It's hard I'd imagine juggling all your balls so to speak but it's no good having a fancy dress just in case if there is no party invite to show it off at.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

wingy said:
If I were him with his ability I wouldn't see it as progression.

Issue is he's only 18 tho with plenty to learn in his trade. Went on loan to Solihull and while he didn't play much in the month he was there I don't believe, tho he would of learned a lot from the experience.

That's what it's about to find a career with the talent he's been blessed with so far

wingy · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
Problem is I doubt the cash is there, fa cup money currently possibly settles the books. So that's why I came up with the hypothetical keep or sell scenario and drawing Wigan in the cup.

I'm more worried we don't have the depth up top like we're blessed with at the back.

Should a bid come it would have to be a very very good offer which MR has basically said it would need to be to part with any player.

It's hard I'd imagine juggling all your balls so to speak but it's no good having a fancy dress just in case if there is no party invite to show it off at.

He has gone on record saying he gets it Steve .

wingy · Jan 28, 2018

Really looks like giving Beavon a deal was costly,focus on trying to move on what we don't need.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

wingy said:
He has gone on record saying he gets it Steve .

That's good news.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

wingy said:
Really looks like giving Beavon a deal was costly,focus on trying to move on what we don't need.

A two year deal was bizarre, a one year was better

clint van damme · Jan 28, 2018

Another target man striker and a experienced midfielder.

Mucca Mad Boys · Jan 28, 2018

Why is there this obsession about selling Willis for a striker? No one is even interested in him. Bradford were in the summer and weren’t willing to match our evaluation. Considering his performances in the best defence in the division, his value has gone up, not down.

Every transfer is the risk, so I think selling your best defender mid season for a striker - when we’ve got McNulty - is asking for trouble.

Last point, Craig Davies was probably the best option in this transfer window, and we had the resources to get him. He just didn’t want to come down to us.

Willis versus imaginary striker? Willis wins hands down.

clint van damme · Jan 28, 2018

wingy said:
Really looks like giving Beavon a deal was costly,focus on trying to move on what we don't need.

While I agree with what you've said I think the policy of giving players longer contracts will ultimately prove beneficial even if in this instance it does appear to be a mistake. Difficult to get them all right.

Terry Gibson's perm · Jan 28, 2018

I think Reid will be waiting for a pay off to go.

I wouldn’t sell Willis to fund anything maybe macdonald, I would rather see players like Beavon moved out but who would take him

Liquid Gold · Jan 28, 2018

No, centre back is where we’re strongest with 3 first choice players and Hyam as a decent backup but the FA cup money should give us some room to manoeuvre. I fully believe Robins has 2/3 players lined up and is awaiting the draw on Monday to see what his funds will stretch to.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Why is there this obsession about selling Willis for a striker? No one is even interested in him. Bradford were in the summer and weren’t willing to match our evaluation. Considering his performances in the best defence in the division, his value has gone up, not down.

Every transfer is the risk, so I think selling your best defender mid season for a striker - when we’ve got McNulty - is asking for trouble.

Last point, Craig Davies was probably the best option in this transfer window, and we had the resources to get him. He just didn’t want to come down to us.

Willis versus imaginary striker? Willis wins hands down.

It's all hypothetical... not real and currently no bids or concrete interest but as you say his value has gone up and is the one out of the whole squad to fetch a good sum or likely interest.

It's all if buts and maybes to see if anyone would cash in our riches to strengthen the rest of the squad with 3 days of the window to upgrade from shopping in exchange and mart to having a pick from the show room.

The who scenario of the thread was a hypothetical one

Marty · Jan 28, 2018

I think if we could sell and bring 2 or 3 players to improve the first team as a whole then you have to.

We have 5 solid centre backs if you throw Stokes in their too. If we were to sell someone it has to be one of the centre backs, just because we have so much cover.

I want another big lump of a striker in, but we have no cover for McNulty's goals oi he gets injured.

clint van damme · Jan 28, 2018

Marty said:
I think if we could sell and bring 2 or 3 players to improve the first team as a whole then you have to.

We have 5 solid centre backs if you throw Stokes in their too. If we were to sell someone it has to be one of the centre backs, just because we have so much cover.

I want another big lump of a striker in, but we have no cover for McNulty's goals oi he gets injured.

now you mention it, and I know it won't happen, but we could do with a left back. Stokes playing poorly and Haynes cameos have been worse.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Marty said:
I think if we could sell and bring 2 or 3 players to improve the first team as a whole then you have to.

We have 5 solid centre backs if you throw Stokes in their too. If we were to sell someone it has to be one of the centre backs, just because we have so much cover.

I want another big lump of a striker in, but we have no cover for McNulty's goals oi he gets injured.

That's one of my points, were light up top and a injury away from promotion derailing where's at the back we've a embarrassment of riches.

A different topic is who your ideally release from the club to boost the fund for a loan or free transfer.

Another totally different topic is who you'd least like to sell from the back line if anyone to wheel and deal

Ideally we'd sell no one and a injection of 600/700k+ would appear in the next 48 hours to boost the attacking 3rd or better still a large lump sum from a James Maddison sale

Marty · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
That's one of my points, were light up top and a injury away from promotion derailing where's at the back we've a embarrassment of riches.

A different topic is who your ideally release from the club to boost the fund for a loan or free transfer.

Another totally different topic is who you'd least like to sell from the back line if anyone to wheel and deal

Ideally we'd sell no one and a injection of 600/700k+ would appear in the next 48 hours to boost the attacking 3rd or better still a large lump sum from a James Maddison sale

That's the ideal situation, if we get 2-3mill with 500k for transfers, I'd be chuffed to bits.

steve82 · Jan 28, 2018

Marty said:
That's the ideal situation, if we get 2-3mill with 500k for transfers, I'd be chuffed to bits.

With a lot of the change stored for the summer window...

We've the best manager at the helm for a long long time, it's time to back him

Speedies_Chips · Jan 28, 2018

I think we are going to have to stick with what we have got. I wouldnt sell Willis either. He is now starting to turn consistently good performances in. It's true we have 4 very capable centre backs at the moment and that we can only play 2 but given that our game is based on not conceding, and nicking goals, I think we need the cover for when injuries and suspensions occur.

It's clear that SISU arent going to inject any cash to push us over the promotion line this January, so no wonder striker is going to turn up. The squad we have should be good enough to finish at least in the play off spots, and if we can stop losing to teams we shouldn't, then 2nd or 3rd spot cant be ruled out.

ccfcway · Jan 28, 2018

Let Haynes, beavon and Reid go.

robbiekeane · Jan 28, 2018

steve82 said:
If you was

Otis · Jan 28, 2018

bawtryneal said:
First thing Robins should do tomorrow .........

Ask for a pay rise.

Yes he should. Should definitely do it before we lose the next two matches and everyone wants him sacked again.

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