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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #36
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
There is a threat and by law, ACL's directors have a legal duty in light of such threats to protect their position. Look, that's three times I've typed it now. I'm bored
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Stick with it. You are right. Cue abuse for agreeing with your view.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #37
rob9872 said:
Can only stop by paying up which long term will do more damage as less budget to play with.
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Hence why they should have took the offer on the table instead of being greedy.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #38
rob9872 said:
If you post it a fourth time it still won't make it right!
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No. It would just still be law
 

Baginton

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #39
afc cov---evostick league---butts park

#getourclubback :claping hands:
 

BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #40
coundonskyblue said:
Sisu have put shite on the pitch, hence why most fans want them out.

If Sisu care about this club they can easily stop admin proceedings.
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Hey, we are three points off the playoffs so I cannot agree with that they have put shite on the pitch.

There have been many 'experts' on this forum with the whole financial situation getting snippets of info. Lets see what happens. But i can see one thing, all is not what it seems and when it does come out publicly in court then we will see the same 'experts' missing for a while.

This applies to the pro and anti sisu mobs

I just want to have a hope of promotion, not a pissing contest into what i dont know about the unknown of company contracts
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #41
#nofanwantstheirteamtodropdowntheleaguesthatfarjusttogetridoftheowners

Baginton said:
afc cov---evostick league---butts park

#getourclubback :claping hands:
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Spencer

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #42
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
There is a threat and by law, ACL's directors have a legal duty in light of such threats to protect their position. Look, that's three times I've typed it now. I'm bored
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The problem is you've been wrong on all 3 occasions!!

ACL have gone for administration as they believe they can convince a judge that the threats of insolvency demonstrate insolvency. I don't believe a judge would agree - it is merely posturing (which the courts expect to happen in business).
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #43
coundonskyblue said:
A club of our stature should not be happy with where we are in the league, and we certainly shouldn't be grateful to owners that have put us there.
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I agree, just think what we could have done with owners who have our interests as a club at heart. Sadly people defend everything they do to the hilt. I am anti SISU,and dream that they will make the right decision to jack it in one day. I just want my club to be successful.. That will be easier with a serious investor who can get on with ACL in the short term.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #44
#norealfanwantstheirteamtobeputoutofexistance
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #45
BackRoomRummermill said:
Hey, we are three points off the playoffs so I cannot agree with that they have put shite on the pitch.

There have been many 'experts' on this forum with the whole financial situation getting snippets of info. Lets see what happens. But i can see one thing, all is not what it seems and when it does come out publicly in court then we will see the same 'experts' missing for a while.

This applies to the pro and anti sisu mobs

I just want to have a hope of promotion, not a pissing contest into what i dont know about the unknown of company contracts
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Err its the league 1 play offs.

If thats the level of ambition you have for our club I can see why you don't have a problem with Sisu as owners.

This year will be our lowest league finish in 51 years. You think that is good?
 
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Spencer

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #46
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
No. It would just still be law
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Fancy pointing me in the direction of that law?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #47
Spencer said:
Fancy pointing me in the direction of that law?
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The directors fiduciary responsibilities to not allow their biggest debtor to fold
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #48
rob9872 said:
We've used the loan system well and have a strong squad including cleverly on the day before impending embargo.
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instead of paying there dets they spent money they didnt have then lol
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #49
coundonskyblue said:
Err its the league 1 play offs.

If thats the level of ambition you have for our club I can see why you don't have a problem with Sisu as owners.

This year will be our lowest league finish in 51 years. You think that is good?
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And do you think that will get better or worse if we don't go up? Let me help you. It will be worse.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #50
coundonskyblue said:
Err its the league 1 play offs.

If thats the level of ambition you have for our club I can see why you don't have a problem with Sisu as owners.

This year will be our lowest league finish in 51 years. You think that is good?
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SISU got us here didn't they? You can only play in the league you are in. No point in making sweeping statements about lack of ambition. We fall short of success year on year. We need new owners.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #51
That's a stupid thing to say. We are where we are, it doesn't show a lack of ambition. It shows ambition to get higher than we currently are. To say we shouldn't want to get into the play-offs just because they're only for League One is pathetic.

coundonskyblue said:
Err its the league 1 play offs.

If thats the level of ambition you have for our club I can see why you don't have a problem with Sisu as owners.

This year will be our lowest league finish in 51 years. You think that is good?
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #52
Spencer said:
The problem is you've been wrong on all 3 occasions!!

ACL have gone for administration as they believe they can convince a judge that the threats of insolvency demonstrate insolvency. I don't believe a judge would agree - it is merely posturing (which the courts expect to happen in business).
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well the choice is they pay there det or dont no other option anyone who says difrent is making it up FACT
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #53
coundonskyblue said:
A club of our stature should not be happy with where we are in the league, and we certainly shouldn't be grateful to owners that have put us there.
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So you think we are bigger than Leicester Birmingham west brom man city forest villa wolves to name but some who have been at this level.

Are you serious?
 

BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #54
coundonskyblue said:
Err its the league 1 play offs.

If thats the level of ambition you have for our club I can see why you don't have a problem with Sisu as owners.

This year will be our lowest league finish in 51 years. You think that is good?
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No be we have to start somewhere like we did 51 years ago.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #55
rob9872 said:
And do you think that will get better or worse if we don't go up? Let me help you. It will be worse.
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And its because of Sisu's incompetence that we're in this position.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #56
coundonskyblue said:
And its because of Sisu's incompetence that we're in this position.
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Along with a succession if piss poor support, players and managers.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #57
torchomatic said:
That's a stupid thing to say. We are where we are, it doesn't show a lack of ambition. It shows ambition to get higher than we currently are. To say we shouldn't want to get into the play-offs just because they're only for League One is pathetic.
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It shows a lack of ambition to be happy about being 8th in league 1.

Until the club banishes this loser mentality it will never progress.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #58
Grendel said:
So you think we are bigger than Leicester Birmingham west brom man city forest villa wolves to name but some who have been at this level.

Are you serious?
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So do you think fans of those clubs would think their good because their 8th in league 1?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #59
LarryGrayson said:
well the choice is they pay there det or dont no other option anyone who says difrent is making it up FACT
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This is time for SISU to roll their sleeves up and have one last throw of the dice isn't it? Pay the debt. Get in to the playoffs. Win them. Get promoted. No points deduction. Buy more players with ambition.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #60
rob9872 said:
Along with a succession if piss poor support, players and managers.
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I didn't realise ACL picked the team and managers.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #61
coundonskyblue said:
It shows a lack of ambition to be happy about being 8th in league 1.

Until the club banishes this loser mentality it will never progress.
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We are bigger than Manchester city? You believe that?
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #62
Grendel said:
We are bigger than Manchester city? You believe that?
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Please point out where I have said that. If you can't I expect you to retract that statement.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #63
coundonskyblue said:
I didn't realise ACL picked the team and managers.
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Now you're just being plain stupid for the point of prolonging your ridiculous arguments on this thread.
 
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Spencer

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #64
LarryGrayson said:
well the choice is they pay there det or dont no other option anyone who says difrent is making it up FACT
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Your opinion - fair enough!

(But, you're wrong)!
 
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Bluegloucester

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #65
Flying Fokker said:
This is time for SISU to roll their sleeves up and have one last throw of the dice isn't it? Pay the debt. Get in to the playoffs. Win them. Get promoted. No points deduction. Buy more players with ambition.
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I hope they do.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #66
rob9872 said:
Now you're just being plain stupid for the point of prolonging your ridiculous arguments on this thread.
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If Sisu hadn't messed up then we wouldn't have been relegated. That has nothing to do with ACL.
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #67
Spencer said:
Your opinion - fair enough!

(But, you're wrong)!
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o no im not
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #68
coundonskyblue said:
So do you think fans of those clubs would think their good because their 8th in league 1?
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Many took more than 1 season to get out of the league and most did not change owners.

Only Southampton and Leeds have been promoted post administration and they have far far bigger revenue steams. Admin will mean relegation battle next season.
 

BackRoomRummermill

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #69
I think this is not the time given a POTENTIAL chance of promotion to blame anyone.

The way this has panned out has to put a abstact view on the off the field events , indeed given all the efforts on the pitch to get us around a sniff of the playoffs i believe that all parties should call a truce until this has been played out.

Surely it is ACL and SISU interest for a promotion this year ?
 
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Bluegloucester

New Member
  • Mar 16, 2013
  • #70
Spencer said:
Your opinion - fair enough!

(But, you're wrong)!
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Well what is the third option?
 
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