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Match Thread Wrexham FA Cup match (2 Viewers)

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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #106
Johhny Blue said:
Rumour says they’re both coming
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Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney?

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SBT

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #107
pusbccfc said:
Always wanted us to use a long throw. So much more useful than a corner. I remember one game a few years back where Robins actually allowed McCallum (I think) to use his long throw. Caused problems every time.
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I’m the opposite - always found long throws to be tedious anti-football, whether it’s us or the opponents using them. Good for timewasting and the occasional soft goal but otherwise I’d rather just watch actual football.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #108
SBT said:
I’m the opposite - always found long throws to be tedious anti-football, whether it’s us or the opponents using them. Good for timewasting and the occasional soft goal but otherwise I’d rather just watch actual football.
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Great when we scored from McCallums
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #109
SBT said:
I’m the opposite - always found long throws to be tedious anti-football, whether it’s us or the opponents using them. Good for timewasting and the occasional soft goal but otherwise I’d rather just watch actual football.
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Arun Gunnarrsun had a mean long throw but it seemed to trouble England more than our league opponents
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #110
Our former MD Chris Anderson wrote a book about it - Stoke basically used Delap’s long throws to waste time on a historic level. They spent something stupid like a third of the game collecting the ball, drying the ball, setting up for long throws etc - the rationale being that if you minimise the amount of time that the opposition (or anyone!) has the ball, the less likely they are to beat you. I’d have asked for a refund.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #111
SBT said:
Our former MD Chris Anderson wrote a book about it - Stoke basically used Delap’s long throws to waste time on a historic level. They spent something stupid like a third of the game collecting the ball, drying the ball, setting up for long throws etc - the rationale being that if you minimise the amount of time that the opposition (or anyone!) has the ball, the less likely they are to beat you. I’d have asked for a refund.
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Makes sense
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #112
pusbccfc said:

Coventry City's predicted team vs Wrexham in the FA Cup

Coventry City team news from CoventryLive as we look at what changes manager Mark Robins might make to his Sky Blues line-up for the FA Cup
www.coventrytelegraph.net


Congratulations to Wrexham on their comfortable win.

That is an absolutely awful side.
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Those players still play for a club 3 divisions higher than our opponents FFS...

I get the whole cup shocks thing but regardless of what you think of our players and their recent form, the majority of that team are arguably much better than the Wrexham team.
 

edgy

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #113


This should be enough.
 
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ceetee

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #114
I agree that we should win but there have always been cup upsets. It's not a case of "our eleven players are better than your eleven players" It's a question also of team dynamics and motivation and, of course, your best team is not necessarily your best eleven players.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #115
Skyblueweeman said:
Those players still play for a club 3 divisions higher than our opponents FFS...

I get the whole cup shocks thing but regardless of what you think of our players and their recent form, the majority of that team are arguably much better than the Wrexham team.
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I'd argue that the likes of Todd Kane, Kelly, Waghorn, Reid and Taveres will end up in the same league as Wrexham next season if they get promoted.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #116
SBT said:
I’m the opposite - always found long throws to be tedious anti-football, whether it’s us or the opponents using them. Good for timewasting and the occasional soft goal but otherwise I’d rather just watch actual football.
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How are they different to a corner then? If you have a player like McCallum it feels like a reasonable approach sometimes, just can become predictable if over used
 
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AOM

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #117
After the Bristol game, Robins mentioned players playing with little game time so I imagine we'll see Waghorn, Palmer, Kelly and Dabo starting. Don't think we even have much rotation available in the squad.
Hopefully Moore can get a good performance in too
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #118
AOM said:
After the Bristol game, Robins mentioned players playing with little game time so I imagine we'll see Waghorn, Palmer, Kelly and Dabo starting. Don't think we even have much rotation available in the squad.
Hopefully Moore can get a good performance in too
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Yes I think most of our players need more gametime rather than less, so resting players makes no sense. Personally would not want to see Waghorn playing.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #119
Deleted member 9744 said:
How are they different to a corner then? If you have a player like McCallum it feels like a reasonable approach sometimes, just can become predictable if over used
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I’ve seen some artful/skilful goals scored from corners, but never from long throw-ins. It seems like the most crude way to score to me. Not saying they should be banned, I just don’t find them good to look at!
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #120
SBT said:
I’ve seen some artful/skilful goals scored from corners, but never from long throw-ins. It seems like the most crude way to score to me. Not saying they should be banned, I just don’t find them good to look at!
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Fair enough. For me any goal we score is enjoyable but I see what you mean.
 

AOM

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #121
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes I think most of our players need more gametime rather than less, so resting players makes no sense. Personally would not want to see Waghorn playing.
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It's a tough one as I think we should rest Vik ideally for the league. Don't think Tavares would do much on his own up front either.
Think Waghorn is okay on the ball, but his legs look gone
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #122
We seem to have improved our normal throw in routines recently. I’m fact we seem to have been practicing all our set pieces recently.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #123
AOM said:
It's a tough one as I think we should rest Vik ideally for the league. Don't think Tavares would do much on his own up front either.
Think Waghorn is okay on the ball, but his legs look gone
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Equally a two week gap of not playing isn't always a blessing.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #124
SBT said:
I’m the opposite - always found long throws to be tedious anti-football, whether it’s us or the opponents using them. Good for timewasting and the occasional soft goal but otherwise I’d rather just watch actual football.
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SBT said:
Our former MD Chris Anderson wrote a book about it - Stoke basically used Delap’s long throws to waste time on a historic level. They spent something stupid like a third of the game collecting the ball, drying the ball, setting up for long throws etc - the rationale being that if you minimise the amount of time that the opposition (or anyone!) has the ball, the less likely they are to beat you. I’d have asked for a refund.
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He also discussed, in the very first chapter, how purists almost feel that a goal from a long throw-in (citing Stoke/Delap as the example) isn't as deserved even though they're worth just as much as any other goal. I'd absolutely take it as an addition to the way we play, rather than the overriding tactic.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #125
Moore for Wilson, Burroughs at LWB, Dabo at RWB. Kelly and possibly Howley to start centre mid and Waghorn and Tavarres as front 2. Back 3 will need to be the same unless he shifts Bidwell there for Panzo or Doyle. Really hope Vik, Sheaf and Hamer get a rest. Still think that's a fair team
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #126
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Equally a two week gap of not playing isn't always a blessing.
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Agreed. Playing twice a week can be a problem for some players but it seems playing regularly once a week is optimal for fitness. A break of a couple of weeks seems to hamper form I feel.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #127
Deleted member 9744 said:
Agreed. Playing twice a week can be a problem for some players but it seems playing regularly once a week is optimal for fitness. A break of a couple of weeks seems to hamper form I feel.
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I would sooner Gyo, Hamer and Sheaf get at least an hour and hopefully a confidence boost, than watch an awkward performance from players who are usually benched and thus not sharp.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #128
Well they thrashed Solihull 2-1 at the weekend, which backs up the claim they have players that could hold their own in the Championship. Seriously though, i hope we don't put out a disjointed mess of a team and risk another embarrassing cup defeat. Sooner start with a couple of the big boys and try and put them away by half time.
 
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WrexhamFans

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #129
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Sorry but a few of your players wouldn't hold their own at championship level. I watch Torquay regularly and I haven't seen a player over the last 2 seasons who's remotely close to this level. The gap is massive these
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Did you go to the Wrexham game when torquay got beat 6-0?

Joking aside and taking Wrexham players out of it, the league is full of quality players, Birmingham were going to sign Tshimanga last season and only didn't because of a failed medical, Championship clubs are all over Langstaff (Notts C) this January window, Sorba Thomas a few seasons ago.

Dont get me wrong there is some right dross in NL and I mean abysmal, some played for you and us Stuart Beavon, Ponticelli, Adebola, Thornton to name a few but to dismiss the whole league is nonsense.

Just seen Mark Robins thoughts on the game and giving players a break. It's ok if your strong enough which maybe the case, but The FA cup always produces shocks, why not just knock us out at your place and move on. Last thing you need is a replay then you will have to play a stronger team anyway I'd assume at our place.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #130
WrexhamFans said:
Did you go to the Wrexham game when torquay got beat 6-0?

Joking aside and taking Wrexham players out of it, the league is full of quality players, Birmingham were going to sign Tshimanga last season and only didn't because of a failed medical, Championship clubs are all over Langstaff (Notts C) this January window, Sorba Thomas a few seasons ago.

Dont get me wrong there is some right dross in NL and I mean abysmal, some played for you and us Stuart Beavon, Ponticelli, Adebola, Thornton to name a few but to dismiss the whole league is nonsense.

Just seen Mark Robins thoughts on the game and giving players a break. It's ok if your strong enough which maybe the case, but The FA cup always produces shocks, why not just knock us out at your place and move on. Last thing you need is a replay then you will have to play a stronger team anyway I'd assume at our place.
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Unfortunately clubs nowadays don’t see the FA cup the same as supporters. I would be more than happy to play our strongest 11 and win the game comfortably, but I’d imagine a cup run means a lot more to Wrexham than it does to us.

It’s almost a certainty that Robins won’t play the likes of Gyokeres or Hamer in case of injury, especially as we have just lost our talisman O’Hare to an ACL. At the end of the day the league is far more important, and we are in with a real shout of finishing in the play offs. Play and potentially lose Gyokeres through injury against (No disrespect intended) Wrexham in the FA cup would be almost suicidal to our chances.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #131
Ashdown said:
City have to take this serious, we should play our best team available. We have a dreadful track record of cup shocks. Wrexham with a big following will be up for this and the media will be dribbling over the possibility.
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Yeah and the club needs the money.


 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #132
Skyblue_CP said:
Unfortunately clubs nowadays don’t see the FA cup the same as supporters. I would be more than happy to play our strongest 11 and win the game comfortably, but I’d imagine a cup run means a lot more to Wrexham than it does to us.

It’s almost a certainty that Robins won’t play the likes of Gyokeres or Hamer in case of injury, especially as we have just lost our talisman O’Hare to an ACL. At the end of the day the league is far more important, and we are in with a real shout of finishing in the play offs. Play and potentially lose Gyokeres through injury against (No disrespect intended) Wrexham in the FA cup would be almost suicidal to our chances.
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I just don’t get this mentality sorry.
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #133
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I just don’t get this mentality sorry.
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I’m not saying it’s what I would wan’t, I’m just saying that’s probably what the thought process is.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #134
Its got defeat written all over it this one. Play a weakened team against a lower league team, in great form with a big support. They will be up for it, high on confidence.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #135
Ticket sales look hilarious

wont be more than 6k Cov
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #136
it's delusional to think Wrexham have any players that are championship level. some NL have moved to this level and been a success but that is a handful.

yes shocks do happen but even a waghorn/kelly/fab tav level should easily beat them

if we for some mad reason play the likes of gus and vik we should being getting 5 or 6
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #137
Saddlebrains said:
Ticket sales look hilarious

wont be more than 6k Cov
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..... and you're happy about that?

If you are correct then we don't really deserve to progress further, and if we do get knocked out it will be hypocritical of those not bothered themselves to criticise the team for doing so.

Personally I just find it really sad, and feel that the lack of interest in the competition that provided the greatest day in our history, kind of belittles that history. Hopefully as the matchday approaches there will be more interest than you predict.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #138
Legia Sky Blue said:
..... and you're happy about that?

If you are correct then we don't really deserve to progress further, and if we do get knocked out it will be hypocritical of those not bothered themselves to criticise the team for doing so.

Personally I just find it really sad, and feel that the lack of interest in the competition that provided the greatest day in our history, kind of belittles that history. Hopefully as the matchday approaches there will be more interest than you predict.
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Where did I say I was happy about it? That's you assuming

You've got to think, its January, in a cost of living crisis, and a fixture that's not exactly going to get people excited, especially with such a stupid kick off time.

I'm not going, but that's because I could do with the £40+ it would cost me taking all into account to get up there with the kids. There's a lot of people in the same boat hence the complete lack of ticket sales.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #139
TomRad85 said:
Well they thrashed Solihull 2-1 at the weekend, which backs up the claim they have players that could hold their own in the Championship. Seriously though, i hope we don't put out a disjointed mess of a team and risk another embarrassing cup defeat. Sooner start with a couple of the big boys and try and put them away by half time.
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Solihull ain't been shit since they sold that giant c**t that weirdo on here gets a boner over
 
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Bertola

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #140
A signing or two, or confirmation of the takeover could help boost ticket sales. With the cheap prices, walk up will probably be decent too
 
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