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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #491
jordan210 said:
Did the response mention Duggins emails and so on ?
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No, I just mean this woodlands thing is the response from the council to everything.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #492
One thing - people have said that they wouldn’t be surprised if one of Richardson’s companies held a significant number of the retail bonds available. My knowledge on the trading markets is (very) limited, but just thinking out loud, would that not sail very close to an insider trading angle? Wouldn’t another Richardson company have access to non-public material? Or is that ok as long as the bonds aren’t actually traded?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #493
SBAndy said:
One thing - people have said that they wouldn’t be surprised if one of Richardson’s companies held a significant number of the retail bonds available. My knowledge on the trading markets is (very) limited, but just thinking out loud, would that not sail very close to an insider trading angle? Wouldn’t another Richardson company have access to non-public material? Or is that ok as long as the bonds aren’t actually traded?
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I don't know about the regulatory aspect of it but they're not traded like you say....
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #494
chiefdave said:
Screw putting in a full planning application with experts devising a transport plan. LAST and Magwitch have decided its not possible.
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Funny that I have already mentioned what could be done.
I was just answering an answer about the present day

Grendel made out there is no problem with it Now!
I responded that there is.
But read it as you please.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #495
Harryshipman1998 said:
Has this already been posted....

Woodlands Academy - Statement from Woodlands Ward Cllrs Peter Male, Gary Ridley and Julia Lepoidevin

We are aware of media reports linking Woodlands Academy to a new stadium development driven by CCFC owners SISU. At this stage, it’s important to recognise that no planning application has yet been made and as far as we are aware no offer has been made to purchase the land from the Council.

If an application is received the Council will need to deal with any application fairly, however we would be deeply concerned by the idea for a number of reasons. The local area does not have the infrastructure to support a football stadium and the scale of the project would not be suitable for the site in question.

Since the Woodlands Academy closed it has been our objective to see the site returned to use as an educational facility as soon as possible. Therefore, we support the plans brought forward by the Council recently to open a new school on the site which must go ahead.

The Woodlands Academy site is there to educate our city’s children and that’s how it must stay.
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Bet they'll be popular at the council. Shouldn't they all be keeping to the same story?

As they've obviously seen a full planning submission with the associated reports on infrastructure etc perhaps they could share it with the rest of us. Or are they just shooting their mouths off without a club what they are talking about?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #496
Harryshipman1998 said:
Has this already been posted....

Woodlands Academy - Statement from Woodlands Ward Cllrs Peter Male, Gary Ridley and Julia Lepoidevin

We are aware of media reports linking Woodlands Academy to a new stadium development driven by CCFC owners SISU. At this stage, it’s important to recognise that no planning application has yet been made and as far as we are aware no offer has been made to purchase the land from the Council.

If an application is received the Council will need to deal with any application fairly, however we would be deeply concerned by the idea for a number of reasons. The local area does not have the infrastructure to support a football stadium and the scale of the project would not be suitable for the site in question.

Since the Woodlands Academy closed it has been our objective to see the site returned to use as an educational facility as soon as possible. Therefore, we support the plans brought forward by the Council recently to open a new school on the site which must go ahead.

The Woodlands Academy site is there to educate our city’s children and that’s how it must stay.
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Well thats woodlands gone then, council probably wrote that statement for the school hahaha
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #497
Nick said:
This is the council's response.....

Gilbert should ask them what the meeting was about a couple of weeks ago.
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Going off that tweet Gilbert has fallen for the council PR line and failed to ask them any relevant questions. Why are they talking about the planning process when that's not the stage this is out? Should be talking about the council granting the club a forward contract on the site as they have done for Wasps with car park C at the Ricoh.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #498
I didn't know Gary Ridley was a Woodlands Ward councillor. As leader of the Tory opposition group on CCC, he has been co-signing most of the press releases along with Duggins. Unusual to have consensus across the party divide, so i wonder if he has known about the impact on his ward for some time ...!!
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #499
chiefdave said:
Gilbert has fallen for the council PR line
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Nah
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #500
Harryshipman1998 said:
Has this already been posted....

Woodlands Academy - Statement from Woodlands Ward Cllrs Peter Male, Gary Ridley and Julia Lepoidevin

We are aware of media reports linking Woodlands Academy to a new stadium development driven by CCFC owners SISU. At this stage, it’s important to recognise that no planning application has yet been made and as far as we are aware no offer has been made to purchase the land from the Council.

If an application is received the Council will need to deal with any application fairly, however we would be deeply concerned by the idea for a number of reasons. The local area does not have the infrastructure to support a football stadium and the scale of the project would not be suitable for the site in question.

Since the Woodlands Academy closed it has been our objective to see the site returned to use as an educational facility as soon as possible. Therefore, we support the plans brought forward by the Council recently to open a new school on the site which must go ahead.

The Woodlands Academy site is there to educate our city’s children and that’s how it must stay.
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Do you live in the Ward?
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #501
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I didn't know Gary Ridley was a Woodlands Ward councillor. As leader of the Tory opposition group on CCC, he has been co-signing most of the press releases along with Duggins. Unusual to have consensus across the party divide, so i wonder if he has known about the impact on his ward for some time ...!!
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That is obvious now. Also it is clear that if SISU wanted to pick a site that would receive serious opposition to stretch out the planning process they could hardly have chosen better.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #502
More info about grade II listed buildings (IMHO Historic England are mad).
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #503
Captain Dart said:
More info about grade II listed buildings (IMHO Historic England are mad).
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The listed buildings is a red hearing, you've already indicated yourself that a stadium can fit on site without touching the existing buildings and leaving loads more space.
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #504
Liquid Gold said:
The listed buildings is a red hearing, you've already indicated yourself that a stadium can fit on site without touching the existing buildings and leaving loads more space.
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Actually we are not certain about what part of the land is being taked about & don't forget substantial on site parking would be needed.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #505
Captain Dart said:
Actually we are not certain about what part of the land is being taked about.
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You think the field might be a listed building?
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #506
Liquid Gold said:
You think the field might be a listed building?
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Sure, and you're a red herring.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #507
Captain Dart said:
That is obvious now. Also it is clear that if SISU wanted to pick a site that would receive serious opposition to stretch out the planning process they could hardly have chosen better.
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You should let SISU know where this site is you know of that they could be a new stadium on with no opposition from residents.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #508
Captain Dart said:
More info about grade II listed buildings (IMHO Historic England are mad).
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1) it is very easy to fit a stadium on that site without touching the listed buildings
2) the type of listing it has is far from difficult to remove
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #509
RegTheDonk said:
You could do with some of the politically savvy people on here running in an independent group.
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OLDSKYBLUE would piss the election if he stood:joyful:
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #510
It is the level of opposition encountered. For instance Asnsty & Whitley South would be less as industrial zoneing is already established in those areas.
So they pick a well to do area where you might expect locals to mobilise more effectively.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #511
Captain Dart said:
It is the level of opposition encountered. For instance Asnsty & Whitley South would be less as industrial zoneing is already established in those areas.
So they pick a well to do area where you might expect locals to mobilise more effectively.
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They've got that wrong then haven't they. Someone living locally has already stated that its been much better received than they expected and they said the same on CWR yesterday afternoon.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #512
A new building in close proximity to a listed building must not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #513
Captain Dart said:
It is the level of opposition encountered. For instance Asnsty & Whitley South would be less as industrial zoneing is already established in those areas.
So they pick a well to do area where you might expect locals to mobilise more effectively.
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Well 1000s of us signed the opposition letters about housing on Kings hill but it is still going ahead.
Would prefur the New city ground there.

Not sure but is the Windmill area in Cov could get it built there along with the houses need new roads anyway, so wouldn't be an issue?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #514
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
A new building in close proximity to a listed building must not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building
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TBF the buildings are pretty old and shitty.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #515
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
A new building in close proximity to a listed building must not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building
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Not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building, have you seen the buildings in question?!?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #516
chiefdave said:
1) it is very easy to fit a stadium on that site without touching the listed buildings
2) the type of listing it has is far from difficult to remove
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you can also incorporate listed buildings into developments, they have done at the Butts site, the Premier Inn being an example.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #517
Was just saying it needs to be taken into consideration when planning. Shitty or not shitty, if it's listed it is regarded as being important. Lower Precinct is listed, IIRC!
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #518
Coventry has got more than one Grade I listed building in the city centre. The Old Grammar School is one, Council allowed various developments in and around it that are not at all sympathetic to it, so they can't really start playing those sorts of games now.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #519
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
A new building in close proximity to a listed building must not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building
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Anything would improve them. Ugly concrete buildings.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #520
letsallsingtogether said:
Well 1000s of us signed the opposition letters about housing on Kings hill but it is still going ahead.
Would prefur the New city ground there.

Not sure but is the Windmill area in Cov could get it built there along with the houses need new roads anyway, so wouldn't be an issue?
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I was thinking that, would be a pretty good location right by the A45. To be honest, it's kind of irrelevant whether it's technically in Coventry borders or not as it's so close (although think it is).
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #521
Harryshipman1998 said:
Has this already been posted....

Woodlands Academy - Statement from Woodlands Ward Cllrs Peter Male, Gary Ridley and Julia Lepoidevin

We are aware of media reports linking Woodlands Academy to a new stadium development driven by CCFC owners SISU. At this stage, it’s important to recognise that no planning application has yet been made and as far as we are aware no offer has been made to purchase the land from the Council.

If an application is received the Council will need to deal with any application fairly, however we would be deeply concerned by the idea for a number of reasons. The local area does not have the infrastructure to support a football stadium and the scale of the project would not be suitable for the site in question.

Since the Woodlands Academy closed it has been our objective to see the site returned to use as an educational facility as soon as possible. Therefore, we support the plans brought forward by the Council recently to open a new school on the site which must go ahead.

The Woodlands Academy site is there to educate our city’s children and that’s how it must stay.
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Seems they have misjudged the mood. Of the 20 comments posted in response to this on their facebook page only 2 agree with their stance.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #522
Pop up bars and restaurants, fan village inside the old school buildings.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #523
For anyone who doesn't know the site, here are examples of a couple of the listed buildings:



 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #524
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
A new building in close proximity to a listed building must not adversely affect the character, appearance or setting of the listed building
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The monstrosity going up near Whitefriars seems to have got away with it!
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2019
  • #525
mark82 said:
For anyone who doesn't know the site, here's an example of one of the listed buildings:

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I’m convinced they are on the wind up listing building sometimes. But not with this one though, it’s one of the worlds most incredible feats of architecture and I’m off down there to glue myself to it now. Front first. Naked. Over my dead body is this building EVER getting knocked down. I’m in tears here.
 
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