I would love that. Scores of 112-88 are ridiculous.
Would be much better with a 2 nil, or 3-1 scoreline.
Anything that helps keeps the score down and makes it harder to get the ball through the hoop, gets my vote every time
She was born in Algeria, which is Islamic and gender transition is strictly illegal. So she must be a woman.
If she has some genetic abnormality I don't see how that's any different from basketball players being tall, swimmers having long arms & big hands, sprinters having lots of fast twitch muscle fibres etc.
If she has some genetic abnormality I don't see how that's any different from basketball players being tall, swimmers having long arms & big hands, sprinters having lots of fast twitch muscle fibres etc.
I'm sorry but hasn't the binary argument the whole time been that if you have a vagina you're a woman and a penis a man.
Now we're being told that you can be born with a vagina, have a cervix and still be a man?
I am incredibly confused.
Now we're being told that you can be born with a vagina, have a cervix and still be a man?
I am incredibly confused.
Put the hoops up 6 ft higher and set a hard 5ft5 height limit. Make it so that dunking is 3 points and long shots are 1. That will sort the wheat from the chaff. I want to see proper athletes.
Yeah it’s pretty weird we’ve had years of “I identify as” jokes, yet now the same folk are acknowledging all of the things that exist in-between. Don’t understand.
Also, for people banging on about "safety" she has a record of 37-9 with a 13.5% KO ratio... she's hardly dominant in the sport.
I have to confess, I am swaying on this one. It's really confused me.
I get both sides of the argument. Both sides make decent points.
Really not sure how I feel over it, but it does seem a very valid point that she was born a woman and still is a woman.
What do people propose they do? Put her in another category? If so, which?
Irrevelant. We're talking about a sex classification.
If we have to guess and speculate, the governing bodies have failed.
There is no category.
It’s a situation where there is a clear and distinct advantage gained. It’s why in particular Eastern European athletes we’re banned as they were bunged full of testosterone to create advantages
So again you’d allow Lennox Lewis to fight Barry Mcguigan as they are both men and have arms and legs
For me the key point is the safety of the other boxers.
It’s not Khelif’s fault that - for want of a better term - she is a genetic freak but I don’t see how she can be allowed to compete.
I know that seems unfair and I genuinely feel sorry for her but I think it is the only solution.
It’s not Khelif’s fault that - for want of a better term - she is a genetic freak but I don’t see how she can be allowed to compete.
I know that seems unfair and I genuinely feel sorry for her but I think it is the only solution.
The point is it’s to do with unfair advantages
The Algerian boxer is a biological male. This is not even disputed.
That was the surprise to me that they were similar in weight class, it's needs another classification if that's the case!!
The athelete has DSD. The reason the passport says female is because where she was born means you can’t be allowed to have male on it.
This is not even denied as a fact.
But then the women that have beaten her already, are they double freaks and also should be banned?
A thread on this but not the child rapist competing in the volleyball
Females with normal levels won’t have internal testes.
DSD Regulations call out athletes as biologically male - Sports Integrity Initiative
Last week, two Namibian athletes were excluded from the Tokyo 2020 Olympics after being assessed under the DSD Regulations of World Athletics. It has been widely reported that the DSD Regulations (PDF below) seek to exclude ‘women’ whose testosterone levels exceed 5nmol/L from international...
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But they have a vagina no?Females with normal levels won’t have internal testes.
DSD Regulations call out athletes as biologically male - Sports Integrity Initiative
Last week, two Namibian athletes were excluded from the Tokyo 2020 Olympics after being assessed under the DSD Regulations of World Athletics. It has been widely reported that the DSD Regulations (PDF below) seek to exclude ‘women’ whose testosterone levels exceed 5nmol/L from international...
I can understand if we are saying they are intersex or whatever they are called but I can't see a binary definition that they are male.
Is having internal testes any different to having half the lactic acid production that Michael Phelps had. Should he have been banned because he had that advantage?
So biological males can be born with a vagina, a cervix and are able to birth children?
But it’s not as clear cut as that is it? The athlete has aspects of both sexes so depends what you use to categorise?