COV
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Not gonna happen
The reality is some people have died from the vaccine , small risk or not they have died .
You force somebody to have it against their will and they die ..then what do we call that ?
Not gonna happen
There is. One instruction is ‘don’t put this in your body’, the other is ‘you must put this in your body’. I’ve said above I can see the huge problems if we have a large group of players out due to infection. And we end up in Rotherham’s situation.
Not getting surgery for an ACL and letting it heal on its own versus coronavirus and the vaccine is another apples and oranges comparison.
Plenty of countries and industries in western civilisation do not mandate vaccines. That is completely incorrect. We already had this discussion on the off-topic thread and several posters ended up disappearing with their tails between their legs.
But there are no instructions, who’s saying that?
It’s their choice, but if they go against all of the medical info, don’t, then end up missing games, weakening the team, that’s a problem.
Were there not some others above suggesting fines or similar? I agree with you it’s a problem if it leads to them missing games down the line.
Oh yeah, that’s true- but I don’t think anyone is demanding that the players are instructed to get vaccinated, although the premier league seems to be doing that
Can we just take a moment out of this to collectively rage at the £8 charged for cheesy chips at the ‘Anecdote’.
Sunderland only charge £1 FFS
There's no way that will sustain itself .. and anybody paying 8 pound for cheesy chips needs to question their sanity
The principle is the same - you’re welcome to fend for yourself in recovering from a torn ACL or avoiding a case of COVID, or to spurn treatment which is scientifically proven to improve your chances of a full recovery. But you do so at the risk of your own health and I don’t think you deserve much sympathy if you wilfully ignore the science in doing so.
As for mandatory vaccines - I don’t think you’re correct I’m afraid. Take Europe, for example: Mandatory vaccinations in European countries, undocumented information, false news and the impact on vaccination uptake: the position of the Italian pediatric society - Italian Journal of Pediatrics
Were there not some others above suggesting fines or similar? I agree with you it’s a problem if it leads to them missing games down the line.
The Four Provinces pub. 2 blokes playing guitars, to be honest they weren't that good I thought, but the crowd there seemed to be enjoying their music. Good boozer though !Where was the band B?
Nobody should be forced to take a vaccination.. and nobody should be punished for not having a vaccination either .
I've had mine , I think it's best if people have it , it's completely wrong to force it on people
Every vaccination carries some risk however small ..
I get vaccinated every year with the flu jab , and I've had both covid jabs ...it's a risk I was willing to take ..through CHOICE .
everybody should be given the choice its quite simple
We are all grown ups... you choose if you want to inject yourself or not.
It´s the old alpha/beta mindset at play, you either take control of yourself or you let others take control of you.
Not exactly rocket science....
I liken this to jobs I’ve had where I’ve been told to cut my hair, not dye my hair, remove piercings, etc.
I could have chosen to leave all those jobs and kept my personal choices or not. I decided for example teaching was more important to me than keeping my piercing.
No one forced me to remove my piercing. It’s a choice I made.
Training carries a risk, and a significantly higher one. Should we not fine players who don’t turn up? Silly argument.
You’re just up in arms about this because it’s a culture war thing.
You’re literally letting others control you. Either by always doing the opposite of advice because you’re a contrarian or by listening to loons. You aren’t a free thinking alpha Darren, you’re a dipshit.
You don’t think footballers should have to take basic precautions to look after themselves?
No one is saying punish them for not taking the vaccine. But if they intentionally make themselves unavailable then they shouldn’t get paid for the job. Same as if they refused to train all summer and came in two stone over weight or if they refused to quit smoking IMO. This isn’t a culture war thing it’s just my opinion on how footballer contracts should work.
I’ve got my second dose due this week so I should be alright to play this Sunday if Robbings needs me
You’re literally letting others control you. Either by always doing the opposite of advice because you’re a contrarian or by listening to loons. You aren’t a free thinking alpha Darren, you’re a dipshit.
Have mixed views. Know someone who had a really bad allergic reaction to a jab in the past where they had to call an ambulance etc. Think he will eventually get the jab but is understandably scared. Also, the distrust from certain communities is understandable.
That being said, although it's a "personal choice", the level of vaccine take-up will effect the outcome for everyone. So in that regard, it's not a completely personal choice - effects us all.
I love it when people infer that they are an "alpha male" on the internet, proper gives me the horn.
The level of vaccination uptake is down to personal choice completely.. and if its not and somebody has been forced to have it to keep there job , then we are setting a dangerous precedent.
That's not how we do things .
It's not like a haircut or a piercing like some have suggested
The risks fall somewhere below being swallowed by a sink hole or finding somewhere decent to eat in Bedworth.
V.
Perhaps the players in question do think it's dangerous. Perhaps the last time I looked we still live in a free country and it's their right to choose what they put in their bodies.If you believe the vaccine is dangerous somehow then it would be a terrible thing to say, yes.
Maybe lay of the Ben Shapiro YouTube channel for a bit.You are right.
We should hold them down and force them. Either that or we can dock their wages and then burn them as an alternative.
Why? There’s absolutely no reason to be.I am repulsed at the thought of anybody being forced to take a vaccine , and it's a worrying precident to set .
UnbelievableWhy? There’s absolutely no reason to be.
Unbelievable
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