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Wilson starting on the opening day (5 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Ccfcisparks
  • Start date Wednesday at 1:48 PM
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Happy with Wilson for the start of the season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 127 62.0%
  • No

    Votes: 78 38.0%

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  • Poll closed Thursday at 1:48 PM.
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  • #36
Domo said:
honestly? i dont think any experienced keeper is going to join with two other backup keepers already at the club (unless one or two goes), and knowing that we have dovin coming back. i dont even know who is available.
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But the question is 'are you happy for Wilson to start?'

There maybe sound logic behind why he will but that doesn't mean people have to be happy about it.
 
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Hincha

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  • #37
Wilson starting means Collins is still no. 2 - you're running the risk of relying on him again
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:20 PM
  • #38
I don't mind if it's Wilson or Collins. As long as Dovin is really back by November I'm not desperate for a goalkeeper.

There I said it
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Wednesday at 3:22 PM
  • #39
We’d have been better off releasing Wilson rather than renewing his contract. It made zero sense.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:22 PM
  • #40
covcity4life said:
I don't mind if it's Wilson or Collins. As long as Dovin is really back by November I'm not desperate for a goalkeeper.

There I said it
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If it's Collins forget any promotion prospects
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:29 PM
  • #41
Skyblue Bangkok said:
If it's Collins forget any promotion prospects
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He will have had a summer to reset. Less pressure at start of seaosn than inns playoff run

Same goes for Wilson

Is it ideal? Of course not. But can they possibly put it together for 2 months between then to help us avoid spending money on another keeper? I think so and maybe it's worth the risk
 
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Hincha

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:29 PM
  • #42
covcity4life said:
I don't mind if it's Wilson or Collins. As long as Dovin is really back by November I'm not desperate for a goalkeeper.

There I said it
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"As long as" being a key point here - ACLs are tricky to time frame and causes strain on other leg muscles & ligaments

He's as likely to suffer a setback and be back in March as he is to be back in November
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:29 PM
  • #43
TomRad85 said:
I think @Brighton Sky Blue s suggestion was a good and sensible one. A rare thing indeed on here.
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Free transfer for an experienced international keeper who's just come off the back of playing in Ligue 1 and has past PL experience also. Still, we could just put Wilson in and hope for the best.
 
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woody11462

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:37 PM
  • #44
I'd rather we had someone else starting as our No.1, preferably a loan until Dovin is back but I don't think we should be spending money of we haven't gt much. If Wilson was to start the season, I'd be apprehensive. If Collins was to start, I'd be very concerned.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:38 PM
  • #45
woody11462 said:
I'd rather we had someone else starting as our No.1, preferably a loan until Dovin is back but I don't think we should be spending money of we haven't gt much. If Wilson was to start the season, I'd be apprehensive. If Collins was to start, I'd be very concerned.
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I mean if you're apprehensive at best about someone starting in goal, they probably shouldn't.
 
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Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:46 PM
  • #46
wilson should be nowhere near
Remember back to when he was originally dropped for collins
It is only Collins awfulness that makes you think Wilson is a possibility

I think that is the one position that if we only made 1 more signing , would gain us the most points
 

Bad Boy

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  • #47
I'm yet to be convinced that Dovin is better than Wilson and Collins if I'm honest.

He's looked like a rabbit caught in headlights a number of times, he's young, he's inexperienced and doesn't command his box in the way keepers once did.

Keepers are coached to be shot stoppers with the habit of pushing the ball away (often straight back to an on rushing opponent or defenders that have lost sight of the ball) rather than catching or smothering it nowadays and they try to play it out from the back often with disastrous consequences.

Give me a Oliver Kahn anytime.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  • #48
Bad Boy said:
I'm yet to be convinced that Dovin is better than Wilson and Collins if I'm honest.

He's looked like a rabbit caught in headlights a number of times, he's young, he's inexperienced and doesn't command his box in the way keepers once did.

Keepers are coached to be shot stoppers with the habit of pushing the ball away (often straight back to an on rushing opponent or defenders that have lost sight of the ball) rather than catching or smothering it nowadays and they try to play it out from the back often with disastrous consequences.

Give me a Oliver Kahn anytime.
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hahahaha
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:02 PM
  • #49
Bad Boy said:
I'm yet to be convinced that Dovin is better than Wilson and Collins if I'm honest.

He's looked like a rabbit caught in headlights a number of times, he's young, he's inexperienced and doesn't command his box in the way keepers once did.

Keepers are coached to be shot stoppers with the habit of pushing the ball away (often straight back to an on rushing opponent or defenders that have lost sight of the ball) rather than catching or smothering it nowadays and they try to play it out from the back often with disastrous consequences.

Give me a Oliver Kahn anytime.
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Haha! Superb!
 
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AOM

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:03 PM
  • #50
Wouldn't be confident with either Wilson or Collins starting, but resigned to it probably being the case
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:03 PM
  • #51
Bad Boy said:
I'm yet to be convinced that Dovin is better than Wilson and Collins if I'm honest.

He's looked like a rabbit caught in headlights a number of times, he's young, he's inexperienced and doesn't command his box in the way keepers once did.

Keepers are coached to be shot stoppers with the habit of pushing the ball away (often straight back to an on rushing opponent or defenders that have lost sight of the ball) rather than catching or smothering it nowadays and they try to play it out from the back often with disastrous consequences.

Give me a Oliver Kahn anytime.
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Completely mental post. Fantastic work.
 
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theskyisthelimit

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:08 PM
  • #52
Ccfcisparks said:
I wondered how long it was before Wilsons clown antics in training would be attributed as a positive for him
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You need all sorts of personalities in a team. Simms is very quiet from the looks of it and Wilson is loud and clowns around. Neither is right or wrong but with too much of either then the dynamics would not work. Too many people with Wilson's personality wouldn't work, but not having any would not work either. I know it's a different sport but it's still a team dynamic, but in the England cricket team it is well known Mark Wood brings the clown energy and he raises morale, whereas Joe Root (Arguably best English batsman of all time) looks quite straight down the line and sensible. Both are equally valued.




Plus Wilson does seem to organise a lot more than Collins and is more vocal, as has been mentioned by managers as a plus.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  • #53
TomRad85 said:
Completely mental post. Fantastic work.
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The last line is magic and the 'give me a Oliver Khan'
Instead of an is a masterstroke.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:14 PM
  • #54
TomRad85 said:
Completely mental post. Fantastic work.
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Without knowing his post history I assumed it was some top tier fishing
 
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SAJ

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:16 PM
  • #55
SkyBlue_Adam said:
A recipe for disaster… I’m not convinced on any of our keepers.. Dovin is the best of the 3 by far though but even he dropped a clanger or 2

For me is the the most important position on the pitch..
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Name me a goalkeeper who doesn’t.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:17 PM
  • #56
clint van damme said:
The last line is magic and the 'give me a Oliver Khan'
Instead of an is a masterstroke.
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He didn't mean Oliver, he meant Genghis
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  • #57
The best option surely would be if Collins moved and an experienced head was brought in, possibly on loan initially with an option to make the move permanent at the end of the season.

I don't think it is too much of a risk to start the season with Dovin still recovering and unavailable till near Christmas (after all Bell is still available if one of the 2 senior GK picks up a knock) but it wouldn't be a good idea to bring in someone who blocks Dovin's progression.
 

tez

New Member
  • Wednesday at 4:20 PM
  • #58
I'm more then happy for Wilson to start, we have three senior goalkeepers which is outrageous. Clubs tend to have two and one youth goalkeeper. So all this palava around selling collins/wilson doesn't solve anything. Also loaning someone to cover for dovin is unrealistic especially for 6 months lol. Sounds like FIFA career mode on here!
 
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Bad Boy

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:20 PM
  • #59
clint van damme said:
The last line is magic and the 'give me a Oliver Khan'
Instead of an is a masterstroke.
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Yeah I thought it was good too

I'm still pissing myself laughing at my own post.

I really do know fuck all.

I'll leave the forum to you clever people in future.
 
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theskyisthelimit

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:21 PM
  • #60
Captain Dart said:
The best option surely would be if Collins moved and an experienced head was brought in, possibly on loan initially with an option to make the move permanent at the end of the season.

I don't think it is too much of a risk to start the season with Dovin still recovering and unavailable till near Christmas (after all Bell is still available if one of the 2 senior GK picks up a knock) but it wouldn't be a good idea to bring in someone who blocks Dovin's progression.
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Scott Carson?
 

SkyBlue_Adam

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:26 PM
  • #61
SAJ said:
Name me a goalkeeper who doesn’t.
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True, I’m not asking for a lot - I just want a keeper that can do the basics

-don’t drop the ball infront of an attacker
-not to be beaten at the near post easily
-actually dive for shots that they can reach
-connect with the attacker when rushing out of the goal (high line defence makes that necessary)

I would say claim crosses but that’s not instilled in the modern day keeper.

We have become accustomed to defending goalkeepers making mistakes
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:29 PM
  • #62
Bad Boy said:
I'll leave the forum to you clever people in future.
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If we all do that they'll be down to single figures
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  • #63
If its a choice of him or Collins I know my pick for sure. If we sign a keeper between now and then sure I’d rather they start if not then Wilson it is for me
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  • #64
fernandopartridge said:
He didn't mean Oliver, he meant Genghis
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Despite my dislike of colonialism and empire building Im a huge fan of his.
Imperialism must have a statute of limitations.

His grandson Kubla was some boy as well.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:41 PM
  • #65
clint van damme said:
Despite my dislike of colonialism and empire building Im a huge fan of his.
Imperialism must have a statute of limitations.

His grandson Kubla was some boy as well.
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No limits just ask the orange one or others like him!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:44 PM
  • #66
clint van damme said:
Despite my dislike of colonialism and empire building Im a huge fan of his.
Imperialism must have a statute of limitations.

His grandson Kubla was some boy as well.
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Thread derailment speed run (WR)
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 4:48 PM
  • #67
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thread derailment speed run (WR)
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Was more of a natural progression but I'll give you it
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 5:06 PM
  • #68
fernandopartridge said:
He didn't mean Oliver, he meant Genghis
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Good shout.

Total control of his area and could play out from there plus would take out any opposition to claim the prize.

As long as he doesn't get too high up the pitch and get a nosebleed of course.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 5:06 PM
  • #69
clint van damme said:
Despite my dislike of colonialism and empire building Im a huge fan of his.
Imperialism must have a statute of limitations.

His grandson Kubla was some boy as well.
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Great granddaughter Chaka was ok too.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Wednesday at 5:08 PM
  • #70
Sick Boy said:
We’d have been better off releasing Wilson rather than renewing his contract. It made zero sense.
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Remember when Sisu learned the hard way about not renewing contracts then we got David Bell on a four year deal?
 
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