Be honest then, in 2003 should the council have refused to help the club out?
CCFC asked the council for this current arrangement, were the council wrong to agree to it?
The council didn't help them out. Helping them out would be what all other councils do with clubs in council owned stadiums. Also if it was Hoffman Elliot etc in charge the council would be forced to back down.
If the council hadn't stepped in to save the Ricoh project CCFC would have gone bust.
As we are so often told 'there is no one waiting to buy them' so presumably the club would have ceased to exist in 2003.
Thought the council put in £21million to enable the Ricoh project to go ahead ?The council didn't help them out. Helping them out would be what all other councils do with clubs in council owned stadiums. Also if it was Hoffman Elliot etc in charge the council would be forced to back down.
Nice to know there are people as far away as Leeds concerned and so knowledgable about little old Cov Citys problems
It is becoming tiring listening to the same old arguments defending ACL and the council implying children will not be able to eat and the local charity will suffer.
The only people who are suffering are the supporter. Most football fans would take the clubs side. I was in Leeds the other day and a supporter was saying he couldn't believe how the council was treating the football club.
So are the Coventry supporters unique in their benevolence and morality? Of course not. It is the blind hatred towards them which has distorted their reality. Grown men cry at the mention of the name and others berate them and want them hounded out of town. They see the devil, they need to be driven away.
Now of course we could have a moral consciousness. Then I cast my mind back. Did I see jack griffin bang the door down at Southampton urging them to wind is up, was Ashdown investigate how much was owed to the local coach company concerned of it affected jobs, was sky blue John ranting "we pay our taxes why don't the club"!
No of course not they were silent because then we had the nice faces of mr Coventry and the rather eccentric chap from somewhere up North. They were all right you see, they cared, they bled sky blue (for more than 1 day). So then we turned a blind eye we were normal fans.
Now this is not so. The council and ACL have a lot to answer for the arrangement is crippling. However sisu will never and can never do right.
Best they leave town. Then all the moralists have had there day. They can celebrate. Sadly they won't be celebrating a Coventry performance ever again. Still at least the children get fed at night and the local charity can sleep easily.
No not reallyWhy wouldn't there be. According to Don there is national awareness about our issues. So you know nothing about the issues at Portsmouth and Blackburn then?
Nice to know there are people as far away as Leeds concerned and so knowledgable about little old Cov Citys problems
Saving something doesn't mean making commercial profit from it. It's line saying you saw a man in the desert and gave a bottle of water. You charged him £10,000 for the bottle but he had a drink.
The council haven't made a profit from it, all moneys have been reinvested back into the Ricoh.
I doubt the same could be said for CCFC if we ever made a profit.
Who's we ?Were you so vocal last time when we were refusing to pay bills all over the place?
We're you outraged when we did not pay bills last time? We're you as vocal them demanding they get their act together?
Who's we ?
It depends on which last time your on about.
Most of my annoyance with this whole situation is the fact that TF and Sisu act like they are morally and legally right to do this.
So when we didn't pay Southampton for Leon best we owed Harry shaw several thousand pounds as well as other creditors and also owed £5 million to the revenue that was somehow different?
The council didn't help them out. Helping them out would be what all other councils do with clubs in council owned stadiums. Also if it was Hoffman Elliot etc in charge the council would be forced to back down.
Elliot/Hoffman are simply different names/faces...if the arrangemet were identical on paper - why would they be forced to back down?
Saving something doesn't mean making commercial profit from it. It's line saying you saw a man in the desert and gave a bottle of water. You charged him £10,000 for the bottle but he had a drink.
Because people on here worship the ground they walk on. Public outrage would influence the decision.
A very naive response IMO
Why wouldn't there be. According to Don there is national awareness about our issues. So you know nothing about the issues at Portsmouth and Blackburn then?
Absolutely not. No one cared less the last time we did not pay bills. If the likes of Hoffman, Elliot and keys were constantly using the media to attack the council do you seriously think they would still retain the upper hand in the debate?
Absolutely not. No one cared less the last time we did not pay bills. If the likes of Hoffman, Elliot and keys were constantly using the media to attack the council do you seriously think they would still retain the upper hand in the debate?
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