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  • Start date Jul 11, 2020
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #36
Tommo1993 said:
Thinks he’s been told that the pitch condition has been a big factor in the ongoing negotiations. Don’t have to be brain of Britain to figure out that’d be a massive prerequisite anyway.
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Personally find it hard to believe that given all of the other shit flying around, that the pitch (as important as it is) is enough of a reason to keep us playing in a different city. There has to be a solution to that problem because other clubs manage it. So I’m calling bullshit on that one. He’s either being fed snippets of BS (in a ‘useful idiot’ kind of way) or he’s just making it up.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #37
jordan210 said:
He's trying to sound like he is in the know. The Ricoh love in some people have is embarrassing.
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Not sure about a love in. There is an importance about being back there though.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #38
Tommo1993 said:
Not sure about a love in. There is an importance about being back there though.
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True. But many would sell the club down the river to be there.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #39
Wasp wanker announces return
@Tom Leach you can have that headline
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #40
Skybluefaz said:
Wasp wanker announces return
@Tom Leach you can have that headline
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Maybe Villa are going to give rugby a try, they aren't having much luck with football.

Isn't that the idiot that claimed he'd wanted to play at the Ricoh all his life despite him being born about 25 years before it was built?
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #41
chiefdave said:
Maybe Villa are going to give rugby a try, they aren't having much luck with football.

Isn't that the idiot that claimed he'd wanted to play at the Ricoh all his life despite him being born about 25 years before it was built?
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That's the chap
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #42
chiefdave said:
Maybe Villa are going to give rugby a try, they aren't having much luck with football.

Isn't that the idiot that claimed he'd wanted to play at the Ricoh all his life despite him being born about 25 years before it was built?
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Don’t knock Goodey! Jim Hamilton and himself run a good Rugby podcast! Both Cov boys too.

He was still playing rugger when the RICOH opened so he probably meant it as an ambition to play there as the venue has hosted rugby matches since 2006/07 kind of range. My guess is that ‘all his life’ probably wasn’t meant literally.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #43
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Don’t knock Goodey! Jim Hamilton and himself run a good Rugby podcast! Both Cov boys too.

He was still playing rugger when the RICOH opened so he probably meant it as an ambition to play there as the venue has hosted rugby matches since 2006/07 kind of range. My guess is that ‘all his life’ probably wasn’t meant literally.
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Back off Goode. He used to attend the cities hone games with his mum, who was a season ticket holder and his Dad had a season ticket at Cov RFC. . I’m sure he’d have loved to play for Cov if they’d been in the Premiership
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #44
Colin Steins Smile said:
Back off Goode.
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Seems a lovely chap
Wasps Andy Goode has told furious supporters who oppose the move to Coventry “you’re not real fans”
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #45
Andy Goode sounds like a typical pompous rugby twat. There, I said it.
 
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mark82

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #46
Liquid Gold said:
I thought Mr cathedral was going to do it?
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He's offered, as have others. I know that from the CCFC side they are open to it.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #47
Colin Steins Smile said:
Back off Goode. He used to attend the cities hone games with his mum, who was a season ticket holder and his Dad had a season ticket at Cov RFC. . I’m sure he’d have loved to play for Cov if they’d been in the Premiership
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We’re on the same side here!
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #48
the rumpo kid said:
F&B is always the sticking point, city think they should already get a good % of match day revenue from f&b, as they would already be paying wasps rent. wasps think it's there stadium they should have It all and the rent. There is possibly a deal to share a percentage, but not enough for city. The longer wasps remain in financial trouble the more likely it is for city to get a bigger percentage. If we go back to stans next season , by the season after if wasps haven't gone out of business they will be begging city to come back, they just haven't lost enough money just yet.wankers.
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From what I've heard F and B has already been agreed the sticking point is the rent.
City want to pay the same as at SA wasps want more.
Also believe the rent at SA will go up in line with what Brum pay to play there.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #49
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Personally find it hard to believe that given all of the other shit flying around, that the pitch (as important as it is) is enough of a reason to keep us playing in a different city. There has to be a solution to that problem because other clubs manage it. So I’m calling bullshit on that one. He’s either being fed snippets of BS (in a ‘useful idiot’ kind of way) or he’s just making it up.
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He’s making it up. I’ve just found out he blocked me anyway.

I’ve called him out for his bullshit regularly. The guy is a fantasist
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #50
letsallsingtogether said:
From what I've heard F and B has already been agreed the sticking point is the rent.
City want to pay the same as at SA wasps want more.
Also believe the rent at SA will go up in line with what Brum pay to play there.
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I doubt that. Rumour is we’re paying 1 million a year. No way are blues paying over a mill to play at their own ground
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #51
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I doubt that. Rumour is we’re paying 1 million a year. No way are blues paying over a mill to play at their own ground
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They don't own it
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #52
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I doubt that. Rumour is we’re paying 1 million a year. No way are blues paying over a mill to play at their own ground
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They are I think
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #53
Skybluefaz said:
They don't own it
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No their owners do, it’s one of those dodgy debt payment things. Our 3 year deal was agreed prior to that purchase. Our deal will be following the agreed contract.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #54
Apologies. They’re leasing it back at 1.25 mill for 25 years
 

pipkin73

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  • Jul 11, 2020
  • #55
Is that per annum or for the 25 years. Also as they rent the stadium for the full year are they then subletting to us and our rent covers most of there rent?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #56
Administration on the cards for Blues then. Sooner or later they’ll be playing L1 football, 1.25m isn’t sustainable
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #57
Tommo1993 said:
Administration on the cards for Blues then. Sooner or later they’ll be playing L1 football, 1.25m isn’t sustainable
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Are they actually paying £1.25m or is it dodgy accounting for FFP? Seems to be popular at the moment but can't help feeling its going to cause a lot of clubs trouble long term.
 

AStonesThrow

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #58
Colin Steins Smile said:
Back off Goode. He used to attend the cities hone games with his mum, who was a season ticket holder and his Dad had a season ticket at Cov RFC. . I’m sure he’d have loved to play for Cov if they’d been in the Premiership
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Back in around 2009/2010 my mum was one of his mums carers, pretty sure she said he was nice enough if not a little odd
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #59
pipkin73 said:
Is that per annum or for the 25 years. Also as they rent the stadium for the full year are they then subletting to us and our rent covers most of there rent?
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Apparently per annum. No wonder they’re keen for us to be there
chiefdave said:
Are they actually paying £1.25m or is it dodgy accounting for FFP? Seems to be popular at the moment but can't help feeling its going to cause a lot of clubs trouble long term.
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i think it is. Because they’re paying the lease I think they avoid the scrutiny that Sheffield Wednesday, Derby and Villa get - it’s effectively a loan they’ve received.

I still don’t think they can raise our rent though. That lease came into play following our agreement with them
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #60
chiefdave said:
Are they actually paying £1.25m or is it dodgy accounting for FFP? Seems to be popular at the moment but can't help feeling its going to cause a lot of clubs trouble long term.
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It's a cost so has no bearing on FFP.

It is going to be a big problem long term but it's owners profiteering from the club by getting rent and land value transferred to their control. Plus if the club don't have he funds they then lend the club the money (with interest) just to get it straight back again. It's a nice racket.

Plus if we ever got a foothold into the Ricoh this is the arrangement we'd have. SISU controlled company owning the stadium and renting it to the club.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2020
  • #61
Tommo1993 said:
Administration on the cards for Blues then. Sooner or later they’ll be playing L1 football, 1.25m isn’t sustainable
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Selling Bellingham should buy off the prospect of administration for a while at least.
 
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win9nut

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  • Jul 13, 2020
  • #62
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It's a cost so has no bearing on FFP.

It is going to be a big problem long term but it's owners profiteering from the club by getting rent and land value transferred to their control. Plus if the club don't have he funds they then lend the club the money (with interest) just to get it straight back again. It's a nice racket.

Plus if we ever got a foothold into the Ricoh this is the arrangement we'd have. SISU controlled company owning the stadium and renting it to the club.
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It doesn't really matter though so long as the stadium and the club are in the same group for revenue purposes.
Plus let's face it, if Sisu want to make money on their investment, who in their right mind would buy CCFC without the Ricoh or another sustainable long term stadium solution included in the purchase?
 

ccfc92

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  • Jul 14, 2020
  • #63
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I doubt that. Rumour is we’re paying 1 million a year. No way are blues paying over a mill to play at their own ground
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Wasn't the Ricoh rent originally £1.2million a year?
 
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