Sky Blue Pete
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Have I missed something?
Why can't the accounts be submitted?? (2 Viewers)
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The Prefect
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Most likely because the auditors won't sign them off...
As for CCFC Ltd, if a company is going into administration if is unlikely you would file accounts...
Voice_of_Reason
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The question is "have CCFC Holdings Ltd accounts been submitted ?"
Voice_of_Reason
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The answer is "no" -- overdue. Last filed 2011 (2012 and 2013 overdue)
skybluehugh
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But that's OK for the FL!! Tossers
Sky Blue Pete
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That's the reason we have an embargo
GaryPendrysEyes
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The Trust/NOPM needs to up the pressure around this, get BDO in the open some more; has there even been an official statement as to what is going on?..
[I know Bob Ainsworth has raised it - has Les Reid done anything much on it?]
[I know Bob Ainsworth has raised it - has Les Reid done anything much on it?]
Voice_of_Reason
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I agree -- Holdings accounts "SHOULD" show assets and any other business from CCFC Ltd.. Is this why accounts have not been submitted ?
Evo1883
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yes ,they have been fiddled more than katie prices punani
Sky Blue Spud
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because they're stuck on a banana boat en route to the Cayman Islands!
Voice_of_Reason
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Sky Blue Sports and Leisure Limited accounts also overdue -- last accounts 2011. How on earth could Appleton have opted for Otium (Sky Blue Sports and Leisure Limited being the holding company) ?
stupot07
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Surely the reason they haven't been submitted is because they're all interlinked. How can auditors sign off on holdings/sky blue sports and leisure who provide funds for ltd, when the future of Ltd is uncertain?
Voice_of_Reason
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We are talking about accounts two years old !
stupot07
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The accounts are always 1 year old, the accounts due are for 2012, 2013's will be submitted next year.
Manchester United's accounts submitted up until June 2012:
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/00095489
Liverpool football club - May 2012
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/00035668
WiganSkyBlue
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Not filing company accounts is a criminal offence, I think. In that case could any one of us ask the police to investigate with a view to criminal prosecution? I don't know myself, just posing the question. :thinking about:
GaryPendrysEyes
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It is a criminal offence and very odd that Appleton seemingly hasnt got to the bottom of this and Bob Ainsworth has had to poke it with a stick.
Also strange Les Reid hasnt pushed this much either (to my knowledge).
Time for the Trust to raise this and put people on the spot - maybe an open letter to Appleton??
Also strange Les Reid hasnt pushed this much either (to my knowledge).
Time for the Trust to raise this and put people on the spot - maybe an open letter to Appleton??
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
BDO - it is not their responsibility to file the accounts. That responsibility is with the Directors of the company concerned.
They will not be able to sign off accounts of the Group companies until there is resolution of the CCFC Ltd situation because the companies in the group are so interlinked and the figures involved are significant. Equally until such time as there is definitely somewhere for the team to play there is no way of assessing a viable future for any of the companies.
As yet there is no evidence that any of the delays or the"mess" that is the financials is the fault of BDO - only comments from TF
BDO do not have to reply to any correspondence from the SB Trust or any fans other than to say thank you for your letter we can not discuss these matters with you. That is perfectly ethical and legal. Their auditors report is made to the shareholders (members) of the company.
Can the administrator, HMRC, government departments require a reply from BDO yes
Whilst there are questions I would like answered by BDO on the financial statements prepared to date, those documents are now 2 years old and in a way not relevant now to getting CCFC back at the Ricoh. The focus on BDO is something for TF to hide behind.
They will not be able to sign off accounts of the Group companies until there is resolution of the CCFC Ltd situation because the companies in the group are so interlinked and the figures involved are significant. Equally until such time as there is definitely somewhere for the team to play there is no way of assessing a viable future for any of the companies.
As yet there is no evidence that any of the delays or the"mess" that is the financials is the fault of BDO - only comments from TF
BDO do not have to reply to any correspondence from the SB Trust or any fans other than to say thank you for your letter we can not discuss these matters with you. That is perfectly ethical and legal. Their auditors report is made to the shareholders (members) of the company.
Can the administrator, HMRC, government departments require a reply from BDO yes
Whilst there are questions I would like answered by BDO on the financial statements prepared to date, those documents are now 2 years old and in a way not relevant now to getting CCFC back at the Ricoh. The focus on BDO is something for TF to hide behind.
Voice_of_Reason
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Thank you for taking the time to explain - appreciated.
SkyBlueBlood
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Because the auditors looked at the accounts and asked if they could talk to the author Mr Michael Mouse but Fisher Disney know where he is
Sky Blue Pete
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Thank you sir - much appreciated
Bennets Afro
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Would I be right in saying OSB that the last time BDO signed off the accounts, everything was still in ltd???
How can they get blamed for accounts that have not yet been filed since then...
How can they get blamed for accounts that have not yet been filed since then...