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Who makes it in the Prem? (5 Viewers)

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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:34 PM
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Realise we may yet get relegated, but interested on people’s thoughts.

Just watched the Tyne & Wear derby. A tepid bore-fest of unparalleled dullness. But it made me realise, to be competitive, are we going to have to change almost our entire “best 11”?

Sunderland were pretty decent, but had about 2 players starting who played in the playoffs (a few more came on as late subs).

Who from the current squad makes our Prem 1st 11?

For me it’s the following…

Rushworth (when we sign him permanently)
MVE
Rudoni

And I think that’s about it. Am I wrong?!
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 4:35 PM
  • #2
Out of the 11 that started yesterday personally I'd change all but Rushworth, MVE and maybe Rudoni depending on how he performs rest of the year.

I could see us starting with

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Grimes
Rudoni
Wright

Though to be honest
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:39 PM
  • #3
Do you not think we’d do a Sunderland and bring in some relatively cheap experience- e.g. like they did with Xhaka and Traore?
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Yesterday at 4:40 PM
  • #4
Rushworth
MVE
Kitching
Thomas
Grimes
JDS
Wright
Rudoni
Simms ( has experience )
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Yesterday at 4:41 PM
  • #5
Ccfcisparks said:
Out of the 11 that started yesterday personally I'd change all but Rushworth, MVE and maybe Rudoni depending on how he performs rest of the year.

I could see us starting with

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Grimes
Rudoni
Wright

Though to be honest
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Don’t think Bobby is good enough on the ball to be starting in the prem for us, agree with the others though
 

Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:42 PM
  • #6
I strangely think Simms is more likely to do some damage in the Prem than Wright.

Simms is a bit more of a throwback to an older era of centre forward that isn’t utilised as much in the Prem anymore.

I don’t think Wrights pace / touch wil count for as much in the Prem.
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 4:43 PM
  • #7
Hard to say how many would be of obvious Prem standard. Personally found Le Fee underwhelming for what he was supposed to be at Championship level and he seems ok. I've said before I think if we start next season in the Prem my money would be 5 players currently here start on opening day.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:43 PM
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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don’t think Bobby is good enough on the ball to be starting in the prem for us, agree with the others though
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I think Bobbys main strength is “on the ball”, it’s his concentration / decision making that causes issues.

I do otherwise agree though, I don’t think immediately good enough for the Prem.
 

Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
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TomRad85 said:
Hard to say how many would be of obvious Prem standard. Personally found Le Fee underwhelming for what he was supposed to be at Championship level and he seems ok. I've said before I think if we start next season in the Prem my money would be 5 players currently here start on opening day.
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Le Fee looked better this evening than he did against us.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
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Jamesimus said:
I think Bobbys main strength is “on the ball”, it’s his concentration / decision making that causes issues.
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Yeah and his silly mistakes, been solid this season but would get found out in the prem
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
  • #11
i think EMC has valuable traits that will see him do well at the top .
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 4:46 PM
  • #12
I won't be in as big of a rush to bin everyone off as some on here will that's for sure. Think there are some that could surprise but we will of course need to spend good money to stand a chance.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:48 PM
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Evo1883 said:
i think EMC has valuable traits that will see him do well at the top .
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He’s one of the ones I’d be most concerned about, but also, I couldn’t see that Le Fee would be as good in the Prem as he looked this evening so what do I know

Sometimes some players just fit in a different league.
 

Mcbean

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  • Yesterday at 4:49 PM
  • #14
Scumberland spent 160 million
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 4:50 PM
  • #15
Jamesimus said:
He’s one of the ones I’d be most concerned about, but also, I couldn’t see that Le Fee would be as good in the Prem as he looked this evening so what do I know

Sometimes some players just fit in a different league.
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I think our fans underrate Mason clark , his physicality alone would be a massive asset in the premier league .. kieran mckenna alludes to ipswich struggling becaude they lacked it .. crystal palace the type of side who have it all over and the type of side we need to try and emulate
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 4:51 PM
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Mcbean said:
Scumberland spent 160 million
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So basically what you get from just getting to the Prem?
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 4:53 PM
  • #17
Jamesimus said:
So basically what you get from just getting to the Prem?
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They were able to cash in good money on someone called Bellingham too. We don't have any incredibly average midfielders with that surname unfortunately.
 
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Otis

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  • Yesterday at 5:00 PM
  • #18
No-one saying Torp?

His game just keeps on seeming to improve. He's only 26 too, so still has some years left ahead of him.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Yesterday at 5:01 PM
  • #19
Keep

Rushworth
Dovin
Thomas
Kithcing
Woolfenden
JDS
Mve
Kkh
Grimes
Torp
Rudoni
EMC
Saka
Wright

Sell

Allen
Bidwell
Rapha
Wilson
Collins
Lati
Brau

Maybes

Eccles
Simms
Bta
Andrews

The keeps list won't be starting 11 anymore all of them. So opens up a good 7-8 slots for new transfers which could transform us in terms of quality

But personally I think we have a good core to keep to help pad out a decent squad
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 5:13 PM
  • #20
Otis said:
No-one saying Torp?

His game just keeps on seeming to improve. He's only 26 too, so still has some years left ahead of him.
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I think he’s great, has a lovely touch and shot. His physicality has improved too. I think in the Prem his lack of pace would potentially be exposed though.

Don’t want to shit on him mind, he is great to watch at the moment. Did a super sexy turn against Bristol and has the composure so many players lack.
 
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Martw

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  • Yesterday at 5:20 PM
  • #21
Ccfcisparks said:
Out of the 11 that started yesterday personally I'd change all but Rushworth, MVE and maybe Rudoni depending on how he performs rest of the year.

I could see us starting with

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Grimes
Rudoni
Wright

Though to be honest
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Not unreasonable I reckon - I can’t see us trying to buy a whole new team
 

hill83

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  • Yesterday at 5:24 PM
  • #22
Wilson
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 5:27 PM
  • #23
I’d say:
Rushworth
Kitching
Rudoni
Sakamoto
Emc
Wright
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Yesterday at 5:28 PM
  • #24
It's a poor & devisive post.
Stop it. We are in this together.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 5:30 PM
  • #25
It's a big step up.

You'd (and I hate to say this) want to take a page out the Sunderland book on their approach to it.

Keep the stronger players as starters, or even squad players, and hustle the fuck out of the summer transfer window for new additions that would automatically be starting at a higher level.
 
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hill83

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  • Yesterday at 5:32 PM
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's a big step up.

You'd (and I hate to say this) want to take a page out the Sunderland book on their approach to it.

Keep the stronger players as starters, or even squad players, and hustle the fuck out of the summer transfer window for new additions that would automatically be starting at a higher level.
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Most of the squad will be under no illusions that they will either not be playing or moved on as well. Nature of the beast.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 5:36 PM
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CovValleyBoy said:
It's a poor & devisive post.
Stop it. We are in this together.
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Don’t necessarily disagree. It is however the realistic nature of what we may face!
 

Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 5:38 PM
  • #28
hill83 said:
Most of the squad will be under no illusions that they will either not be playing or moved on as well. Nature of the beast.
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I guess this season we seen how much continuity meant at the start of our campaign.
 

skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 5:44 PM
  • #29
Jamesimus said:
Do you not think we’d do a Sunderland and bring in some relatively cheap experience- e.g. like they did with Xhaka and Traore?
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Xhaka was pretty expensive given his age
 

Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 5:49 PM
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skybluecam said:
Xhaka was pretty expensive given his age
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Was one of the best players on the pitch today. Doesn’t sound like that’s a one off either. What’s 10 million on a 33 year old if it keeps you in the Prem an extra year?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 5:52 PM
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Jamesimus said:
Was one of the best players on the pitch today. Doesn’t sound like that’s a one off either. What’s 10 million on a 33 year old if it keeps you in the Prem an extra year?
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£13m rising to 17 - which is probably mostly on avoiding relegation.

Obviously he's been a great signing, but it's a lot of money when there's almost no prospect of a return on investment.
 
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hill83

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  • Yesterday at 5:55 PM
  • #32
skybluecam said:
£13m rising to 17 - which is probably mostly on avoiding relegation.

Obviously he's been a great signing, but it's a lot of money when there's almost no prospect of a return on investment.
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The return on investment is staying up. Which they’ve pretty much secured already.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 5:56 PM
  • #33
skybluecam said:
£13m rising to 17 - which is probably mostly on avoiding relegation.

Obviously he's been a great signing, but it's a lot of money when there's almost no prospect of a return on investment.
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I guess the return of staying in the league would cover it, but I get the sentiment. He looks a very physically fit 33 year old as well though.
 

hill83

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  • Yesterday at 5:58 PM
  • #34
All the nuances of a million or so here or there and return on investment become largely irrelevant in the prem. You obviously still look for that, but 1 player could be netting you £70m profit after a good season.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Yesterday at 6:08 PM
  • #35
CovValleyBoy said:
It's a poor & devisive post.
Stop it. We are in this together.
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Also just wanted to mention @CovValleyBoy, it’s not my intention to make the thread divisive but I hear ya.
 
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