Which City manager did (or is doing) the best job with the worst squad? (1 Viewer)

[Rusty Trombone]

There's not enough arguing on the other thread, so try this one.

This is the worst squad I can remember, and therefore the best manager is Pressley.

 

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[mds]

Bobby Gould after the mass exodus.

 

[Monners]

Gould did a great job with no resources - some famous results and some good football (hard to believe I know). Robins to a point until he ran away, and at the moment Pressley, based on on last season

Edit: Gould's first time around. Second time he had the brainwave to drop Oggie for his son, and had the tactic of hoofing the ball up to Quinn (there was the good start to the season I suppose)! I was there for his last game - the 5-1 at QPR and was relieved when he stepped down after the game

 

[rupert_bear]

Has to be John Sillett and George Curtis, turned what looked on paper a pretty poor squad into a good side. We stayed up the previous season by the skin of our teeth and were relegation favourites yet again think we only bought Keith Houchen and Iain Painterin the close season, became difficult to beat and of course the cup and all that

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Eric Black in 2003–2004. This was at the apex of the post-Richardson austerity era. There was no money, the squad was generally accepted as being rotten, and nobody was shocked the team was in a relegation battle. Black took over and managed to turn them into a free-scoring, playoff-challenging team -- and that was without a McGoldrick/Wilson/Clarke goalscorer.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Eric Black in 2003–2004. This was at the apex of the post-Richardson austerity era. There was no money, the squad was generally accepted as being rotten, and nobody was shocked the team was in a relegation battle. Black took over and managed to turn them into a free-scoring, playoff-challenging team -- and that was without a McGoldrick/Wilson/Clarke goalscorer.

Disagree. He had riches compared with Pressley. His team wasn't all that.

 

[Evo1883]

Pressley is doing a poor job , dare i say on par with andy thorn with arguibly a better squad

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Disagree. He had riches compared with Pressley. His team wasn't all that.

Aside from a nominal fee for Delomoueaux, I don't think Black paid any transfer fees.

Pressley had a moderate budget last year. He said himself: "It [was] an average budget in League One ... There’ll be eight or nine teams on the same." That and the fortune of having two brilliant goalscorers. Frankly, any claims of SP working a miracle last season are gross overstatements.

 

[torchomatic]

Don't get all the Eric Black obsession to be honest. Yes, good at the time, but unproven really. Who knows how he would have faired given more time?

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Don't get all the Eric Black obsession to be honest. Yes, good at the time, but unproven really. Who knows how he would have faired given more time?

'Good at the time' being the key phrase for the subject of the thread.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Aside from a nominal fee for Delomoueaux, I don't think Black paid any transfer fees.

Pressley had a moderate budget last year. He said himself: "It [was] an average budget in League One ... There’ll be eight or nine teams on the same." That and the fortune of having two brilliant goalscorers. Frankly, any claims of SP working a miracle last season are gross overstatements.

He was only in post for 4 months. Having only been appointed in January. He had 2 weeks to pay a fee for a player.

 

[The Lurker]

Don't get all the Eric Black obsession to be honest. Yes, good at the time, but unproven really. Who knows how he would have faired given more time?

Some of the best football I've seen but some of the worst too. Colchester in the cup midweek was very depressing

 

[torchomatic]

True enough. Point taken.

'Good at the time' being the key phrase for the subject of the thread.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Has to be John Sillett and George Curtis, turned what looked on paper a pretty poor squad into a good side. We stayed up the previous season by the skin of our teeth and were relegation favourites yet again think we only bought Keith Houchen and Iain Painterin the close season, became difficult to beat and of course the cup and all that

The Painter signing seemed suspicious to me, missed the pen for Stoke that would have got us relegated, then we sign him, and he played 3 games.

 

[pusbccfc]

In my opinion Pressley has a very capable squad at the moment, so the fact we aren't performing is disappointing.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

The Painter signing seemed suspicious to me, missed the pen for Stoke that would have got us relegated, then we sign him, and he played 3 games.

...with a year in between.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Gould did a great job with no resources - some famous results and some good football (hard to believe I know). Robins to a point until he ran away, and at the moment Pressley, based on on last season

Edit: Gould's first time around. Second time he had the brainwave to drop Oggie for his son, and had the tactic of hoofing the ball up to Quinn (there was the good start to the season I suppose)! I was there for his last game - the 5-1 at QPR and was relieved when he stepped down after the game

I was at that QPR game, sitting in traffic after the game and the news came over the radio that he'd resigned. It's only now when I think about that, but I do think he did resign, none of the 'mutual consent' stuff you hear now.

If he really did resign, that's a pretty decent thing to do isn't it. Have any other managers accepted they weren't doing well enough and resigned without being pushed?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I was at that QPR game, sitting in traffic after the game and the news came over the radio that he'd resigned. It's only now when I think about that, but I do think he did resign, none of the 'mutual consent' stuff you hear now.

If he really did resign, that's a pretty decent thing to do isn't it. Have any other managers accepted they weren't doing well enough and resigned without being pushed?

He quit because he claimed Richardson had agreed a deal to sell Ndlovu...

Who then stayed for a couple more seasons, while we then got 'investment' we'd never dreamed of previously.

Richardson, meanwhile, claimed the furor after his resignationm put off one of those good ole Arab billionaires we always hear so much about.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

...with a year in between.

Was it really, my memory is pretty poor with such things, I'm going to check that out. Although if it was a year I'm still suspicious, they tried even harder to hide something.:thinking about:

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Incidentally, despite all that actually thought his second spell was better.

After the Don Howe dark days, thought we were certs for relegation the next season - we couldn't score, the football was dire, we had no money and were resorting to signing quick postmen from the lower leagues and playing Terry Fleming at fullback.

Despite this, we saw some cracking games in his second spell, saw goals and it was fun to go up. Sure, it went off the rails from time to time, but the unpredictability was part of what made it fun!

 

[John_Silletts_Nose]

Jimmy Hill was a great manager but he did have some money to spend although he did generate it himself by winning and marketing/integrating the club with the City fans.

Harry Storer and Gordon Milne to a lesser extent were good managers that had little to work with and sold many of their best players.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Incidentally, despite all that actually thought his second spell was better.

After the Don Howe dark days, thought we were certs for relegation the next season - we couldn't score, the football was dire, we had no money and were resorting to signing quick postmen from the lower leagues and playing Terry Fleming at fullback.

Despite this, we saw some cracking games in his second spell, saw goals and it was fun to go up. Sure, it went off the rails from time to time, but the unpredictability was part of what made it fun!

Looks like we're experiencing a Don Howe period now, hopefully things will improve when we have a fully fit squad with no one suspended.

 

[wingy]

...with a year in between.

Throw the auditors off the scent...

 

[wingy]

He quit because he claimed Richardson had agreed a deal to sell Ndlovu...

Who then stayed for a couple more seasons, while we then got 'investment' we'd never dreamed of previously.

Richardson, meanwhile, claimed the furor after his resignationm put off one of those good ole Arab billionaires we always hear so much about.

Ah so the Current Furore Is the current hold up??:thinking about::facepalm:

 

[wingy]

Don Mckay

Not for his work with us though .

Always felt for him up at Blackburn ,working with meagre resources ,on the verge of promotion a couple of times .

Then moneybags shows up and In walks Dalgliesh?? who goes straight up IIRC ,the rest Is history .

Always thought the football was dour under him hear though ,a bit like now.