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Where could a new stadium be? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 29, 2014
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Samo

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  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #36
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Tell you what why dont you stop hiding and come out and tell us who you are?
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He is a ridiculous little dweeb all alone in a bedroom who knows nobody and nothing. Why do you ask him?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 29, 2014
  • #37
Samo said:
He is a ridiculous little dweeb all alone in a bedroom who knows nobody and nothing. Why do you ask him?
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How dare you talk about Mr W--d like that?
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #38
Is this some kind of joke thread, honestly the FOI plainly states no talks have taken place with any parties at all, and people are still banging on about where it could possibly be, no wonder Fisher is still being allowed to take the piss out the fan base at will. Get your fucking heads looked at their wont be a stadium, they cant even purchase a league one player for cash never mind build a 15-20m + stadium.
 

the rumpo kid

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #39
just a thought on this, (and I don't believe for one minute a ground will be built) now that sisu nor ccfc have anything to do with the ricoh , apart from renting the pitch, the stadium belonging to another spots company (wasps), and assuming that now the council have now been paid what they're owed. what objection could they have to sisu or a new owner applying to build another stadium in the city limits, smaller citys than cov have two stadiums.
 

mrtrench

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #40
RFC said:
I would very politely just wish to correcect you, don't attempt to put words into my mouth.

I'm sure a few know but like me are honourable and trustworthy and would under no circumstances divulge.

You'll know soon enough!
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How soon, RFC? Can you at least tell us how many sites are in the running and if there is a favourite?

Someone told me the other day that you are someone senior in SISU itself? Is that true?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #41
the rumpo kid said:
just a thought on this, (and I don't believe for one minute a ground will be built) now that sisu nor ccfc have anything to do with the ricoh , apart from renting the pitch, the stadium belonging to another spots company (wasps), and assuming that now the council have now been paid what they're owed. what objection could they have to sisu or a new owner applying to build another stadium in the city limits, smaller citys than cov have two stadiums.
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The only objection would be based on an issue with the particular application.

The council can't, and never could have, objected to another stadium in principle.
 

the rumpo kid

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #42
so why the fuss about being outside the city ?
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #43
Ian1779 said:
Even at the bigger site near the Airport? The one on the A45
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That is Ryton! As Albatross said, there is no room for a non existent stadium there.
 
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LB87ccfc

Member
  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #44
mrtrench said:
How soon, RFC? Can you at least tell us how many sites are in the running and if there is a favourite?

Someone told me the other day that you are someone senior in SISU itself? Is that true?
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He's probably Fisher all along.
 

mrtrench

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #45
Given his name, RFC, it is clear he must have inside information. How else would anyone know that we would have a Rugby Football Club playing in and owning our ground?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #46
the rumpo kid said:
so why the fuss about being outside the city ?
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The daft cow that owns us said she didn't want to work with CCC, so the club has to suffer because of it.
 
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LB87ccfc

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #47
mrtrench said:
Given his name, RFC, it is clear he must have inside information. How else would anyone know that we would have a Rugby Football Club playing in and owning our ground?
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Or hes just a Rangers fan obsessed with Fleck still.
 

davebart

Active Member
  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #48
The main reason it wouldn't be Warwick Uni is that there would be no benefit for the owners of CCFC. The whole purpose of building a new ground is to increase the value of any associated land. Why would the club do that for Warwick Uni who own the land?

If as seems the case under FOI no proper approach has been made to any local authority in the area then SISU would be taking a massive punt on any land that has never previously been built on. Bullying people through the courts doesn't usually work in the planning system.

This suggests to me that they must be looking at brownfield sites. Ryton would have been ideal. There must be other sites around coventry surely, of say 22 acres?
 

davebart

Active Member
  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #49
A thought has just occurred to me. Usually football clubs get in bed with a big retailer to get a scheme going. The retailer benefits from association with the sporting use and they bring the necessary money to the table.

If any approach has been made by the retailer and not the football club would a FOI request be easily batted back with an honest No we have not been approached by CCFC?

Could SISU be riding on the back of a Tesco say?
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #50
davebart said:
This suggests to me that they must be looking at brownfield sites. Ryton would have been ideal. There must be other sites around coventry surely, of say 22 acres?
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Except Fisher was talking about 60 acre sites.
He said 60 acres was needed for training and academy facilities next to a £20million stadium which could begin at 12-15,000 capacity, and expand to 23,000, with planning permission potentially taking “18 months”.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/buying-land-new-coventry-city-6404266
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But that was one year ago.. things move on, LOL
 

albatross

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #51
If there was to be an imaginary stadium built , check out Broad Street RFC on Google Earth.

They have moved at least twice for other development projects where the developer has purchased land and built the premises for them. This site was when they relocated for the morrisons and housing estate.

Substantial bit of land at least 6 pitches plus a football pitch large club house and car park plus a bit more land too.

Right on the A46 for access and its already in use as a sports facility so probably easier for planning as it would be an expansion rather than a change of use.

Don't for one minute think it will happen buts thats where I would start
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #52
davebart said:
If any approach has been made by the retailer and not the football club would a FOI request be easily batted back with an honest No we have not been approached by CCFC?

Could SISU be riding on the back of a Tesco say?
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Unlikely to be Tesco but the theory is right. If for example CBRE have contacted a council but not mentioned CCFC any council could honestly respond with no.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #53
davebart said:
A thought has just occurred to me. Usually football clubs get in bed with a big retailer to get a scheme going. The retailer benefits from association with the sporting use and they bring the necessary money to the table.

If any approach has been made by the retailer and not the football club would a FOI request be easily batted back with an honest No we have not been approached by CCFC?

Could SISU be riding on the back of a Tesco say?
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Tesco are contracting Dave .

There Is saturation point on big out of town shopping mall/centres ,Aldi however are looking to build 200 new stores over the coming years .
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #54
Pound land would be more appropriate.
 

davebart

Active Member
  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #55
Of course I would prefer Waitrose myself
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #56
davebart said:
Of course I would prefer Waitrose myself
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We'd end up with bargain booze
 
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Limey

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #57
WestEndAgro said:
I heard the club were having talks with Warwick University, there is plenty of land which currently has numerous cricket , football and Rugby pitches amongst other pitches adjacent to the main University, this inmo is the only land big enough to house such a development.

The University is intent on becoming a big hitter "already a top 5-6 Univesity in this country" it wants world wide recognition, and has massive links with TATA and many other huge organisations worldwide.

Infrustrucure is currently unsuitable, but rumors persist about a new road being built to join the A45 around the back of Canley, making the Tile Hill railway station extremely convenient for a new ground, as the crow flies it would be around two miles.

Also the potential site is Warwickshire county council not Coventry, so may be workable, please don't shoot the messenger, do I think it's a starter ? Probably not ! did I think they would go to Six fields ? Definately not !

But I'm assured talks of some nature took place regarding CCFC and TUOW
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I would be very happy with this.
 

Calista

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  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #58
chiefdave said:
If for example CBRE have contacted a council but not mentioned CCFC any council could honestly respond with no.
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This seems the likely explanation to me, as the FOI requests have been badly worded. There is no need to mention CCFC in the questions – just ask about discussions with ANY party regarding proposals for a stadium development.

Any land dealings could easily be in the name of separate entities in true SISU style – after all, even Coventry City Football Club Ltd. didn’t having anything to do with the football club did it? It was just a “non-trading property subsidiary”.

The owners could have cleared up the confusion at any time in the last year or so with a simple public statement, explaining why the FOI requests have drawn a blank. You’d think they’d want to defend their reputation, but no - they prefer to take the piss and keep people running round in circles. The same slimy attitude comes through in virtually everything they do, which is why I’m really struggling to retain my love for the club.
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2014
  • #59
No announcement is going to be made about a new stadium in the near future because SISU are still accumulating the Lego bricks needed to build it. They are a few billion short.
 
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skybluerors

Member
  • Dec 31, 2014
  • #60
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/new-coventry-city-fc-ground-8360998
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #61
chiefdave said:
Ignoring the major issue that its highly unlikely it will ever happen where could a new stadium be built?

We've seen the Bermuda site mentioned, there was a Warwick Uni site mentioned a while back (not sure exactly where at the uni, sure someone will fill that in) and Brandon (which seems a non starter). Anywhere else that is possible? A lot of people say it must be within the city boundary so where is there that fits that criteria. Remember it doesn't necessarily have to be empty land at the moment but would most likely be someone that isn't being used.

Lets see where people suggest. Hopefully we can avoid all the 'it will never happen' as we already know that. Just something away from the same old circular arguments to waste a bit of time.
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May aswell ask yourself the question "what would I spend my money on after I win the lottery", except there is probably more chance of that. If you want sensible answers then shouldn't you look at the whole question. Lets not forget that the club are still banging on about 60 acre sites because they still want a stadium, training facility and academy on the same site. This size of land is not just going to attract Sisu/Otium but also house builders, retail and business outlets and community ventures. That is where it is likely to become a bidding war and there is absolutely no chance of Sisu/Otium outbidding a house builder. There is too much money in houses at present and with the backing of government wanting more and more houses why would a shitty little stadium with what only can be described as owners who are economical at best with the truth stand any chance? So, what numbers are you choosing for the Euros this Friday?
 

italiahorse

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #62
This is more likely



Just remember where you got it from
 

WestEndAgro

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #63
italiahorse said:
This is more likely

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Just remember where you got it from
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Where is that ?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #64
WestEndAgro said:
Where is that ?
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Trapped between Old Courtaulds site on Foleshill Road and Scrap yard on Stoney Stanton Road.
City Centre end of Lythalls Lane

Google Earth 52°25'20.04" N 1°29'54.89" W
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #65
italiahorse said:
Trapped between Old Courtaulds site on Foleshill Road and Scrap yard on Stoney Stanton Road.
City Centre end of Lythalls Lane

Google Earth 52°25'20.04" N 1°29'54.89" W
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Old Courtaulds engineering,brick works can walk there in ten minutes,such a shame.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #66
If it is there wonder who will pay the massive decontamination costs?
 

italiahorse

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #67
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
If it is there wonder who will pay the massive decontamination costs?
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There's a planning application for some houses waiting approval but not all the site.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #68
italiahorse said:
There's a planning application for some houses waiting approval but not all the site.
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The person that bought it wanted house,flats,restaurants and bars plus a marina on the canal,a veritable Sandbanks:facepalm: Mind you as an aside,another example of how multi nationals have destroyed the citys industrial base.
 
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dadgad

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #69
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
If it is there wonder who will pay the massive decontamination costs?
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Haha, I did a couple of days work there as a school leaver. It was like that place in Lynch's ' Eraserhead'.
The air was yellow with steam and fumes with chemicals seeping thru the floors. For sure, for every year working there you lost a year of life....
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 1, 2015
  • #70
dadgad said:
Haha, I did a couple of days work there as a school leaver. It was like that place in Lynch's ' Eraserhead'.
The air was yellow with steam and fumes with chemicals seeping thru the floors. For sure, for every year working there you lost a year of life....
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My dad worke for Courtaulds fortunalely was transferred to Amtico when it started funny how a lot of the men who worked at Courtaulds didn't live to enjoy their retirement.
 
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