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When and where is the JR appeal hearing? (8 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Jack Griffin
  • Start date Oct 16, 2014
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 16, 2014
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Anybody know?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #2
Was wondering the exact same thing yesterday.

Maybe Sisu are keeping schtum until they get the yay or nay on this. Eggs all in one basket maybe?
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #3
More importantly the club cannot begin to move forward until this is finally shelved once and for all.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #4
Hobo said:
More importantly the club cannot begin to move forward until this is finally shelved once and for all.
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But isn't there the right to appeal, to the appeal, to the appeal?
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #5
Otis said:
But isn't there the right to appeal, to the appeal, to the appeal?
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Probably, just got to find the right judge?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #6
Hobo said:
Probably, just got to find the right judge?
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Yep. Keep going through the courts until you find a judge who finally agrees with you.

Good business practice I would have thought.
 
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Limey

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #7
They can request a verbal hearing if initial appeal rejected.
 

ccfcway

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #8
Hobo said:
Probably, just got to find the right judge?
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3 senior judges !
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 16, 2014
  • #9
ccfcway said:
3 senior judges !
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Or three wise monkeys "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 17, 2014
  • #10
So no one knows?

Where is Simon Gilbert when you need him, slacker..
 

mark_ccfc

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  • Oct 17, 2014
  • #11
"The Court of Appeal will now rule on whether if the club’s lawyers can formally appeal between October 10 and October 31."

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/next-date-set-ongoing-legal-7760105
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 17, 2014
  • #12
mark_ccfc said:
"The Court of Appeal will now rule on whether if the club’s lawyers can formally appeal between October 10 and October 31."

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/next-date-set-ongoing-legal-7760105
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Yes, well.. I wanted a precise date... https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/court-lists/list-appeal-civil

Keep looking..
 

torchomatic

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  • Oct 17, 2014
  • #13
You'll have time to wash your council scarf, don't worry.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #14
Still nothing, only 2 days left?

"The Court of Appeal will now rule on whether if the club’s lawyers can formally appeal between October 10 and October 31."
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Block19

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  • Oct 29, 2014
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I can't see what SISU would gain from this now the council share has been sold. I thought idea was to say the council money had been the wrong use of tax payers money. That money now has been repayed. So what would be achieved
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 29, 2014
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Block19 said:
I can't see what SISU would gain from this now the council share has been sold. I thought idea was to say the council money had been the wrong use of tax payers money. That money now has been repayed. So what would be achieved
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Would be nice if Simon could find out.. suspense is killing me.
 
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MichaelCCFC

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #17
torchomatic said:
You'll have time to wash your council scarf, don't worry.
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Surely time to drop all the council stuff isn't it?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #18
MichaelCCFC said:
Surely time to drop all the council stuff isn't it?
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No.

Endless points scoring is healthy.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #19
Block19 said:
I can't see what SISU would gain from this now the council share has been sold. I thought idea was to say the council money had been the wrong use of tax payers money. That money now has been repayed. So what would be achieved
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It's hard to see isn't it. I would imagine that Wasps hedge fund have a back up plan should the loan have to be repaid and I would think SISU will have trouble proving that they were forced out of the Ricoh and need compensating for it as clearly there was a deal to stay if you were willing to pursue it, our return being the proof of that.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #20
Otis said:
No.

Endless points scoring is healthy.
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I don't agree. You SISU rent boy.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #21
skybluetony176 said:
I don't agree. You SISU rent boy.
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I don't mind that at all.

After 30 years of just being called a rent boy it is nice to have some kind of affiliation.
 

covmark

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #22
MichaelCCFC said:
Surely time to drop all the council stuff isn't it?
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Where are you Mr forum police, when Sisu rent boy/apologist/sympathiser are thrown around. Ahh nowhere to be seen.
 
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MichaelCCFC

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  • Oct 29, 2014
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covmark said:
Where are you Mr forum police, when Sisu rent boy/apologist/sympathiser are thrown around. Ahh nowhere to be seen.
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Errrrr...I think Tony and Otis are being humorous
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #24
Is this an everyone back to court deal or will there just be a judgement of some sort released?
 

covmark

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #25
MichaelCCFC said:
Errrrr...I think Tony and Otis are being humorous
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I wasn't talking about them. Only the other thousand times those terms have been posted on this forum.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #26
Block19 said:
I can't see what SISU would gain from this now the council share has been sold. I thought idea was to say the council money had been the wrong use of tax payers money. That money now has been repayed. So what would be achieved
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Has it been repaid?

So far as we know -

All that has happened is CCC have given away ( sorry sold ) its Shares in ACL

ACL still has the loan on some preferential terms.
 
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MichaelCCFC

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  • Oct 29, 2014
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covmark said:
I wasn't talking about them. Only the other thousand times those terms have been posted on this forum.
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So you think all the comments about Jack and others being council lovers, collecting council minutes, having a council scarf etc etc are ok then?
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #28
MichaelCCFC said:
So you think all the comments about Jack and others being council lovers, collecting council minutes, having a council scarf etc etc are ok then?
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The intention of all such "insults" - SISU lover, Council lover etc - is to belittle the target.

The effect of all such insults is to diminish the writer.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #29
MichaelCCFC said:
So you think all the comments about Jack and others being council lovers, collecting council minutes, having a council scarf etc etc are ok then?
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Are the council scarves yellow inside?
 
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MichaelCCFC

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  • Oct 29, 2014
  • #30
Otis said:
Are the council scarves yellow inside?
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Excellent idea! Red-Blue on the outside, yellow on the inside. Get Nick on it asap
 
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Block19

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #31
oldfiver said:
Has it been repaid?

So far as we know -

All that has happened is CCC have given away ( sorry sold ) its Shares in ACL

ACL still has the loan on some preferential terms.
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It was reported in the cov tel on the 7th October that the wasps would take the 14.4 million loan on as part of the deal
 

italiahorse

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #32
Block19 said:
It was reported in the cov tel on the 7th October that the wasps would take the 14.4 million loan on as part of the deal
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I assume if CCFC manage to get a 50% share in ACL they pick up half that as well. (Plus half of any assets)
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #33
italiahorse said:
I assume if CCFC manage to get a 50% share in ACL they pick up half that as well. (Plus half of any assets)
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No they get 50% of the issued shares

All the debt lies in ACL no matter what happens to shares or who owns them

If one shareholder goes bust the debt is still 100% in ACL
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #34
italiahorse said:
I assume if CCFC manage to get a 50% share in ACL they pick up half that as well. (Plus half of any assets)
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No as I assume the loan has been discharged so there will be a new lending source which raised the capital to buy the loan.

ACL will then meet the payments of that loan.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 30, 2014
  • #35
oldfiver said:
No they get 50% of the issued shares

All the debt lies in ACL no matter what happens to shares or who owns them

If one shareholder goes bust the debt is still 100% in ACL
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And the other side gets the chance of getting the other 50%.......which is what SISU want isn't it?
 
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