skybluetony176
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TF helped him with the numbers so you could be right
I think you're over estimating there by at least 2-2.5k.
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I doubt they would put us straight into the Conference Premier.
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How would say a non league team play at the ricoh?[/QUOTE
Who plays at Hampden Park?
They don't pay anything though do they?
I think you're over estimating there by at least 2-2.5k.
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So the suxfields crew feel at home?
Two scenarios
1. Somehow CCFC in its current guise returns to The Ricoh. First game back would be a massive event, a crowd of at least 15,000 and probably a lot more.
2. CCFC is killed by SISU and a Phoenix club plays it's first game at the Ricoh as a new Coventry club representing the city in the city. Doesn't matter what league I know me and my lad would be there as would at least 5000 others. That club would have resources completely outrunning any other team in the division. What player wouldn't want to join that bandwagon, huge support, fantastic stadium, almost unlimited ambition. As with FC United and Wimbledon promotion would be virtually guaranteed. Would also be a lot of fun.
How would say a non league team play at the ricoh?
I don't see any reason pulling the plug means we are thrown out of the league, after all admin then liquidation is exactly what we just went through, why would it be different this time? If Sepala pulls the plug an administrator/liquidator would be appointed whose job would be to sell things like the global share to get the most amount of money for arvo.
Any new club would need the revenue streams CCFC want now realistically to be a long term success. 5000 in the Ricoh would struggle to break even, even if not paying a penny in rent.
Oh and as for ground, far far *far* better to start off in the Butts (phnar phnar) if non league. Less cost maintaining a huge stadium, more atmosphere, more suited to position equals greater chance of said club building momentum and not being stymied by using a ground just out of stubbornness that it's there.
Aldershot, Maidstone, Newport, Halifax, Chester...
If a club disappears entirely, it disappears and re-starts.
The only reason we haven't is as much because it's partly the football league's fault it got to this stage at all. That's one life though, the exception that proves the rule. Also the part with various non property assetswasn't involved in any liquidation until an agreement was made with the league for Otium to take over. With no agreement, it's arguable that part wouldn't have been wound up. What you can't do is retrospectively take over the wound up club's place in the league...
If the club is wound up it *will* die and need to be re-started.
Oh and as for ground, far far *far* better to start off in the Butts (phnar phnar) if non league. Less cost maintaining a huge stadium, more atmosphere, more suited to position equals greater chance of said club building momentum and not being stymied by using a ground just out of stubbornness that it's there.
The same would happen this time though surely, exactly like last time other than sisu wouldn't bid for themselves. if you appoint a liquidator he will sell the assets, the main asset is the golden share. Of course we disappear if the football league chose that but they had the exact same choice this time. The club wouldn't disappear before the liquidator had sold the assets unless he can't sell them.
Yes, this completely. And it might help out Cov Rugby at the same time. Could probably build up to say 8-10k there before you'd have to move.
Would like to see a big opener at the Ricoh though.
You can't sell a golden share, it isn't an asset (other than an intangible one maybe?). The league can choose to issue it, and they won't issue it to a company in liquidation. Make no mistake if the club is liquidated, it drops out the league. No amount of wishful thinking will stop this!
The club *will* drop out the league if it is liquidated.
There is no debate!
I'm not arguing semantics at all.
Aldershot, Maidstone, Chester, Halifax, Newport...
I'm arguing what happens!
I've told you what's different above.
You're not comparing like with like, the Otium maneuvres are not comparable... the Aldershot, Maidstone etc. examples are.
you have not told me what's different at all.
I have, you just choose not to accept it!
The club *will* drop out the league if it is liquidated.
There is no debate!
Point us to an example that exactly parallels the scenario at CCFC before you say there is no debate.
The examples you quote are very different in that their debt was mostly to third parties and Maidstone, for instance, had nowhere to play and no prospect of ever having anywhere to play.
We don't want this to happen obviously, but it could. No doubt there will be some like Nick and Stupot who wouldn't support it. But there will certainly be a few thousand who will be only too happy to support a reborn CCFC at the Ricoh. Free of debt, free of Sisu. Even a couple of thousand initially would make us a very big team in, say, the division below the Conference North. Three promotions and we're back where we are now. Having gathered a lot more fans along the way. With people having fun watching their team.
I think they'll be 5,000 initially, whatever division we were placed in. People just want their team back.
Let's hope it doesn't come to this. But it may happen.
The clubs were liquidated, the clubs needed to be reformed, the reformed club had to be accepted at the highest level it was able to be.
This is what happens! Where's the general with his Egypt joke when you need him?!?
Resources from where?
Hoffman of course.
He will personally pay the rent and match day costs.
Or fans and local business people, the investment need not be huge for a new club operating at a much lower level.
Or fans and local business people, the investment need not be huge for a new club operating at a much lower level.
Quietly. .
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