What is the alternative to Sisu? (9 Viewers)

[skybluesteve76]

I'm not for Sisu by any means but I asked this question a few weeks back. So many people seem to be jumping on anti Sisu band wagons, but no alternatives have been offered and there doesn't seem to be a queue of billionaire Arabs banging the door down to buy us. Just asking?

 

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[Badgerdan]

I'm not for Sisu by any means but I asked this question a few weeks back. So many people seem to be jumping on anti Sisu band wagons, but no alternatives have been offered and there doesn't seem to be a queue of billionaire Arabs banging the door down to buy us. Just asking?

I ask the same question too. All for them to feck off but noone's come in except for the obvious joke we had not long back.
I'm working on getting the Norwegian oil company 'Statoil' interested but have no connections so doubt they'll even read y plea

 

[skyblueinBaku]

I think that many people are starting to moderate their anti-SISU stance because the Hoffman bid failed and there is no readily available alternative. Most of the 'anti' feeling is directed against Ken Dildo and his cohorts now - quite rightly!

 

[Astute]

I want SISU out but only if whoever took us over had the funds in cash and not in loans. I would also like them to keep costs down and make us sefl sufficient, so they would have to run it similar to the way SISU have :facepalm: The new rules are going to cause great difficulties to most clubs on amount allowed to pay players wages. We must already be about there.

If not a takeover then we need investors. We would not need too many millions invested in our squad to make a good strong squad.

 

[skybluesteve76]

Yeah we all want to see money ploughed into the club by people that know how to run a football club. But, I'd rather have our club than not at all. Which could happen.

 

[Astute]

I keep getting called a SISU lover for being realistic.

I watched my club for many years chasing the Prem dream. We were drifting along near the bottom for season after season. But at least we had a secure future then. Suddenly we were spending money we didn't have. Money got spen t unwisely. We got demoted. We got deeper and deeper into debt. Then we didn't own our ground anymore. We then hit a brick wall financialy. We were saved with minutes to go. Never want to go there again.

The good times will come back. The problem is how long will we have to wait? I would prefer to have our club financialy sound than chase the dream though. The markets are now different. They might let a team or two go under soon. A failing business has no rights to carry on trading. A football club is a business. We have had our reality check. There are many more to come in the next couple of years. Even teams like Everton are having the same. They sold players for millions, but were not allowed to buy any by the board. Makes you think how bad things are for them. They have Sky money coming in and a good support. Still skint though.

 

[Johnnythespider]

Steve i honestly don't know what the alternative is, but whatever it is i wish it would hurry up and get here. I think with some real financial backing thorny could do very good things for the club. Personally i can't stand sisu but am willing to admit that there is no viable alternative at present, But i also defend the right of free speech to those that wish to protest, and the more the goons in orange try to stamp it out the more i will defend it.

 

[OyJimmy]

When a top city banker like Hoffman can't see a future for us with our current business structure that sends a signal to me that we'd be better off taking admin, going down and undergoing a corporate restructuring than to try and persevere with SISU.

The truth is that we are doomed to rubbish football and selling our kids under this management because they haven't got the money required to invest in us. Indeed they sold Prozone which was a money generating asset to try and buy some short term funds in. What kind of desperate move was that?

If the alternatives are admin or sticking with SISU then based on the overwhelming empirical evidence of what happens to clubs like us who go into admin 9they survive and enjoy massive debt write downs) I'll take admin.

We are now back to where we were under Bryan Richardson. That's unacceptable.

 

[Otis]

I think we should go for No-one.

No-one has money. No-one cares about us. No-one has all the answers. No-one can turn this club around. No-one can take us to the promised land. No-one can bring Wayne Rooney to this club.

I vote for No-one.

 

[Sutty]

I think we should go for No-one.

No-one has money. No-one cares about us. No-one has all the answers. No-one can turn this club around. No-one can take us to the promised land. No-one can bring Wayne Rooney to this club.

I vote for No-one.

This bloke?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Noone

 

[Gaz]

Oh my god !

This really is getting boring now.

 

[Astute]

When a top city banker like Hoffman can't see a future for us with our current business structure that sends a signal to me that we'd be better off taking admin, going down and undergoing a corporate restructuring than to try and persevere with SISU.

The truth is that we are doomed to rubbish football and selling our kids under this management because they haven't got the money required to invest in us. Indeed they sold Prozone which was a money generating asset to try and buy some short term funds in. What kind of desperate move was that?

If the alternatives are admin or sticking with SISU then based on the overwhelming empirical evidence of what happens to clubs like us who go into admin 9they survive and enjoy massive debt write downs) I'll take admin.

We are now back to where we were under Bryan Richardson. That's unacceptable.

We are playing good football.
We would lose all our good players going into admin. Whilst we have SISU we will not go into admin unless they have serious problems themselves. This will not happen.
Richardson is the one to blame for putting us where we are now after losing millions every year. This is not the case now. Nothing in our past has been anywhere as bad as the Richardson era.

Look at some teams that have gone into admin. Not been rosy for all of them. We would be left with nothing. Knowing our luck we would be one of the teams that don't recover.

 

[skybluesteve76]

Well said johnny.

 

[Tonylinc]

Yeah we all want to see money ploughed into the club by people that know how to run a football club. But, I'd rather have our club than not at all. Which could happen.

Your wrong. Too many people/organisations have a lot to lose if CCFC go under. The Council, ACL and Higgs. All of their investments in the Ricoh will go tits up if CCFC no longer exist.

 

[skybluesteve76]

Your wrong. Too many people/organisations have a lot to lose if CCFC go under. The Council, ACL and Higgs. All of their investments in the Ricoh will go tits up if CCFC no longer exist.

And you've got assurances to confirm this mate?

 

[Astute]

And you've got assurances to confirm this mate?

So what do you think happens when admin occurs? It is not pick and choose the benefactors. All assets sold and shared out to creditors in a certain order whilst trying to keep us as a going concern. If this was no good then bye bye CCFC.

Bit more to it than that, but the basics are there. Certainly not wanted by me or many others.

 

[skybluesteve76]

So what do you think happens when admin occurs? It is not pick and choose the benefactors. All assets sold and shared out to creditors in a certain order whilst trying to keep us as a going concern. If this was no good then bye bye CCFC.<br />
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Bit more to it than that, but the basics are there. Certainly not wanted by me or many others.

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That's the point I'm trying to make. It's a very real concern that if sisu did pull out we'd have no club left. So what's the alternative? I'm not saying back sisu, but if we don't,where could that leave us? And the answer is it could leave us with nothing.

 

[Astute]

The ideal answer would be not to back them or to piss them off to much either and sit on the fence The problem is that splinters can hurt.

They need to know we are not happy with everything, but not to piss them off so much they think we will be unhappy whatever they do. That could cost us bad.

 

[Tankie]

Steve...
A very Good question, and some excellent opinions too, "Astute, top drawer"
Are Sisu the right people to be holding the reigns of our club?
Personally I think not, but at this moment in time, they are the incumbants, and until some other parties appear on the scene we are stuck with them, there is a big difference in owning a footballl club, and owning a successful Football club.

At the moment Sisu are chasing round here, there, and everywhere, trying to find the shillings, to put into the slot of the electricity meter, thats feeding the life support machine, that our clubs plugged into, and we've been told there's enough small change to keep us alive until the end of the season.

For some fans, the very existance of the club is paramount, however decrepit they may have become, and its hard to fault this unswerving support, but many are growing weary of the "Ragged arse rovers" tag that now applies to our once proud Football club, and are demonstrating in the form of staying away, or waving banners, requesting that "sisu"Jog on, and at the double thank you.

I think, that sisu will go , but in there own selected time table, I think there will be more players to leave, than come in, and I visualise, the smallest playing squad in the clubs History, making Andy Thorns Job, verging on the untenable.
"Yes" Sisu need to go, but "where are", and "who are", the knights in shining armour, who will rescue us!!!
Best.....Tank Top..:wave:

 

[TommyAtkins]

It is becoming clear that it is possible to dislike SISU whilst acknowledging that there are precious few alternatives. This realisation has developed possibly because of the embarrassing and hysterical anti-SISU mob, who won't tolerate other people's opinions.

We need new owners with a coherent and sensible plan for CCFC but in the absence of such, we have to make do with what we have.

Administration is a dangerous facility to risk. There is no guarantee that we will emerge from it.