West Midlands super council deal could be put at risk by Birmingham's poor leadership (1 Viewer)
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Terry Gibson's perm
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Just waiting for her to become Lady Lucas and that will top it off.
shmmeee
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Politically and economically we've always been closer to West Midlands than Warwickshire. And that is what this is about.
The other thing is, look at Manchester who rejected a mayor like we did in a referendum only 3 years ago and are now being forced to have one to get powers back from the government. So there's no evidence that spending taxpayer money on another referendum so soon would be binding or even change direction.
As I've said before our choice is between getting fucked by the government in funding or becoming part of something bigger with a Mayor so we get the powers needed. I don't know what Warwickshire has to offer but I do know that Cities are Osbornes focus so it makes sense wed get a better deal with the second city than with a grouping of smaller towns.
I can see both sides I guess, I like Warwickshire more even if it makes no sense politically to join them together.
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Jack Griffin
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Just a stitch up, take the Mayor & devolved powers or you'll get nowt.
All the spendthrift Labour councils have clubbed together to get their hands on those powers so they can raise taxes in full knowledge that they will get away with it because they have a natural majority. Well if they abuse them maybe the public will wise up, but be prepared for above inflation council tax hikes for a few years, either that or screw them by voting in a Tory, Independent or Liberal Mayor, I'm hoping someone with a bit of common sense & nous like Digby Jones will put himself forward.
All the spendthrift Labour councils have clubbed together to get their hands on those powers so they can raise taxes in full knowledge that they will get away with it because they have a natural majority. Well if they abuse them maybe the public will wise up, but be prepared for above inflation council tax hikes for a few years, either that or screw them by voting in a Tory, Independent or Liberal Mayor, I'm hoping someone with a bit of common sense & nous like Digby Jones will put himself forward.
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Philosorapter
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I am sure in my meanderings on here I have mentioned the greatest threat to Democracy are the political parties.
Which of the Councillors are up for re-election in May? I know its a third of them, and it will be our only chance to remove them in the next two years.
Which of the Councillors are up for re-election in May? I know its a third of them, and it will be our only chance to remove them in the next two years.
fernandopartridge
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Politically yes, economically no. People travel from Warwickshire into Coventry and vice versa, we've more in common in an economic sense. We don't even have a border with the West Midlands, do we?
fernandopartridge
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Seriously Jack? Digby Jones would be dreadful, cares about Birmingham, couldn't give a monkey's fart about the rest of us. Then again, it would be funny to see the interaction between Ann Lucas et al and the mayor, not exactly on the same sheet politically.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Maybe Lady Lucas will want to be the mayor!
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Jack Griffin
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The Metro Mayor of the WMCA will almost inevitably be a Brummie, basically if it is a Labour apparatchik we're all doomed, I was looking for someone, anyone who is more of a mover & shaker with some common sense than a politician with a frightful agenda. Tell us if you've got any better ideas, I'm listening.
oakey
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Tory Central gov wants to starve local govs of funding. They cannot even meet their statutory duties like child protection now. They need more money so force them to raise their own in local taxation, then they get the blame from locals who don't want to pay for services that they personally don't use. It's a deliberate policy and local politicians either play their game or leave politics to the landed gentry like the old days. Subversion of democracy in a calculated, cynical rolling back of the state. Gideon is an enemy of the people.
SimonGilbert
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[h=1]Tories lose control of council after row over West Midlands super council membership
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/tories-lose-control-council-after-10267560[/h]
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/tories-lose-control-council-after-10267560[/h]
fernandopartridge
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The better idea is for Coventry to remain outside of this brummie vanity project.
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Jack Griffin
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With you on that, but unfortunately that ain't gonna happen, even if the next local election (of 18 out of 54 seats) results in 15 seats lost for Labour they will still have a majority (Labour currently hold 43 seats out of 54) and if the Tories could take power, would they go against Gideon's wishes, I doubt it.
Think again, maybe you can come up with a more realistic proposal given the circumstances.
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Jack Griffin
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Yeah, told you.. Maton spouted complete & utter bullshit about a Mayor not being necessary.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/watch-west-midlands-combined-authority-10455113
The Lurker
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Birmingham have showed how to run a city. German market is brilliant, the new station is attractive. Shops and reatuarants alike. Mail box the list is endless. Coventry is behind the times, if it wasn't for the university it would be a concrete jungle. Cov council are useless
SkyBlue_Bear83
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No need to worry, Lucas has assured people that safeguards are in place so that Coventry won't be forced into any decisions.
Sounds familiar
Sounds familiar
Captain Dart
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West Midlands Combined Authority survey, I'm sure they will ignore the result & even suppress the answers if they are not 'positive'.
But its a chance to embarrass the c-units who are forcing this through by giving the answers you know they don't want to hear.
http://snapsurveys.centro.org.uk/snapwebhost/s.asp?k=145278811812
But its a chance to embarrass the c-units who are forcing this through by giving the answers you know they don't want to hear.
http://snapsurveys.centro.org.uk/snapwebhost/s.asp?k=145278811812
NorthernWisdom
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Completed... such as it is!
NorthernWisdom
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Led me to add this comment in the bottom box.
The language in the questionnaire disturbs me, suggesting the deal is already done. The questions also seem designed to be interpreted in favour of a combined authority. Therefore I must emphasise that in my view a combined authority would be an utter disaster, an affront to democracy, and this catastrophic plan must be halted immediately for the sake of residents.
eastwoodsdustman
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I did it and just stated at the bottom: The people of coventry do not want to be part of a greater birmingham authority.
Otis
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Hey, speak for yourself!!
I pretty much put the same thing.
Something on the lines of being engulfed and enveloped and becoming part of Birmingham in all but name.
eastwoodsdustman
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I'm afraid its a done deal. Just having a moan or a protest makes us feel a bit better.
Otis
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True. I moan and protest at my missus, but apparently that is a done deal too.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Devolution always sounds great in principle but the most populous areas always end up getting higher priority simply because they contain more voters. Scotland's a great example, with the central belt hogging the government's attention and most public services run from there with scant regard for the much wider area outside of it.
On this issue, councils do not need to formally merge in order to better co-operate.
On this issue, councils do not need to formally merge in order to better co-operate.
fernandopartridge
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On a related subject, in Manchester, where the Combined Authority was established a couple of years back, guess what is happening this year? Manchester City Council has announced its highest council tax rises since 1990.
Captain Dart
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Yeah, I did similar, a comment about the utter lack of democracy in the process.
