Lampard is better at getting the results against the dross???? Really????I think if you put on the biggest Mark Robins' hat, he could have turned it around like he always did, and got us to finish 5th.
I don't think he would have got the consistency against mediocre teams to get the 9 wins out of 10 that Lampard got. But he also wouldn't have had the poor 5/6 games Lampard did at the start, and he might have pulled off a couple of big results against better teams that Lampard didn't get.
Who knows!
But we know Robins has precedent for turning things round exactly the same as we have this season, and there's theories he may have not been given the chance to reshuffle the coaching setup after it clearly went wrong over the summer... But we'll probably never know the full story behind that.
I think the biggest material difference between the two is Lampard is more consistent at beating the dross to get those 10 wins in 12, Robins biggest weakness was beating shite teams. Robins biggest strength was getting us to punch up against better teams and get results (Wolves away, Leicester, Leeds, Middlesbrough away, United at Wembley, even Spurs at home we played amazing). Lampard hasn't (yet) beaten a considerably better team than us... We haven't had a big enough sample size yet, but I would feel more confident coming up against Sheffield United at Wembley and getting a big result under Robins than Lampard, but Lampard has maybe produced the consistency to get us there....
Even at this point some are trying to put up down after doing the unexpected this season. It’s just embarrassing; we’re very lucky to have him.Some people cannot bring themselves to credit Lampard with anything so it's just easier to say "Robins would have done the same."
Exactly. So far he’s got results when it’s really mattered. Even if we don’t go up there’s loads to be excited about for next season with him and the new coaching staff.Lampard is better at getting the results against the dross???? Really????
Hull, Derby, Plymouth, Luton???
Is that the dross your on about???
Hey, this isn't a comparison or a competition between 2 great managers.
Can we just enjoy getting a 5th place play off place? And be thankful for that.
100% agree.Exactly. So far he’s got results when it’s really mattered. Even if we don’t go up there’s loads to be excited about for next season with him and the new coaching staff.
Even at this point some are trying to put up down after doing the unexpected this season. It’s just embarrassing; we’re very lucky to have him.
There have also been ongoing digs at Lampard since he took over. Both did/are doing an excellent job.Equally, there are constant digs on here about Robins but they don't get jumped on anywhere near as much. I wonder why that is?
.I genuinely can't get my head around it because he did more than anyone to save this club.
There have also been ongoing digs at Lampard since he took over. Both did/are doing an excellent job.
Honestly please shut the fuck up seriously
Sorry!
Mate look
Robins gave us the greatest times , we went to all the games and lived it home and away it was an amazing period and hes one of the greatest this club has ever had .
I also find the slander strange , I also hate when people slate the man and im also baffled as to why fans would argue against a man that did so much for us ..
But Mate im bored of the arguing about it , we have weird fans and thats that
I agree , but we will just be arguing non stop ✋️I get that, and I could go in about it a lot more but there are times when you see threads like this where I can't help myself.
The double standards are incredible.
You do realise that you can simultaneously praise Robins for all he done for the club and praise Lampard for steering us into the top 5? They’re not mutually exclusive
Or you can’t get it out of your head? La La La…Equally, there are constant digs on here about Robins but they don't get jumped on anywhere near as much. I wonder why that is?
.I genuinely can't get my head around it because he did more than anyone to save this club.
Yup.I get that, and I could go in about it a lot more but there are times when you see threads like this where I can't help myself.
The double standards are incredible.
At this point in his career, he needs to achieve something, so I think he'll stick around for a while yet.As amazing as Robins had been for us really transforming the club with all his achievements, I personally don't think Robins would have achieved play offs from that position. 1) the coaching staff were no where near as good tactically without Adi Vivash, 2) we were still really unfit despite playing nearly half a season, 3) his stubbornness around freezing some players out to the team (e.g Kitching), and 4) his constant tinkering of the front 3 trying to keep everyone happy.
I was a Lampard skeptic, he has done an amazing job despite us not playing that well for most of tenure, we have picked up points where it matters. There is huge room for improvement and that's a good thing, it means the team will grow. My worry was always that he will get a good offer in the summer and go.
You could say it's an agenda....Some people cannot bring themselves to credit Lampard with anything so it's just easier to say "Robins would have done the same."
Ok time to pull you up on thisYou could say it's an agenda....
That some people hate on lampard and don't give him the credit he deserves.Ok time to pull you up on this
What agenda would that be mate
That some people hate on lampard and don't give him the credit he deserves.
I love mark robins and will jump on people that disrespect him but it seems anyone who says anything about lampard doing a better job this season are labelled as robin haters and I find that weird.
Hate on. Disrespect. Don't give credit. Call it what you wantNobody hates lampard , show me otherwise
Hate on. Disrespect. Don't give credit. Call it what you want
Got lucky with Injuries that forced 352
High line is so bad it's killing us
433 stubborn and should be changed
So lucky to have win streak we did
Throwing away playoffs
Should have put dovin in for Collins earlier. Should have put Wilson in for Collins earlier
Robins would have got us 5th too as if what lampard did was bare minimum
They can do what they want and I'll call it out when I see fit.Hold on , so you now dont what people discussing tactics and/or things that cost us goals / points ?
Time to find a new forum mate
They can do what they want and I'll call it out when I see fit.
This place would crumble without me
I can't leave it.
Most of them you say you don't agree with so you don't need to worry about being part of agenda.Let's go through your points
Got lucky with Injuries that forced 352
-Not seen this , but people said the same about robins in the league 1 title season , nobody cried mate
High line is so bad it's killing us
- we conceded a fair few goals because of the high line ,be pragmatic especially if our fastest CB and RB are out,our sending off against Luton was directly caused by it
433 stubborn and should be changed
- i Have no issue with 433 , but we have to find a way to win more games away
So lucky to have win streak we did
We werent particularly great during the run but thats football , again , sheffield wednesday should have beat us the fact they didnt would class as luck
Throwing away playoffs
-We almost did , before boro we took 10 points from the previous 9 games
Should have put dovin in for Collins earlier.
-Not really aware of this chat tbh
Should have put Wilson in for Collins earlier
- if he could have he should have , lampard only made fans awate of fitness over the last few games
Robins would have got us 5th too as if what lampard did was bare minimum
- Probably wouldnt have but im not mystic meg , lampard did a good job
Are you satisfied?
Most of them you say you don't agree with so you don't need to worry about being part of agenda.
Also why bring robins into it? This is why this stuff continues. People get triggered that anyone who rates lampard must not have rated robins.
It's not true. Any normal fan should love robins and currently love lampard.
Robins received all this criticism about 'lucky' injuries, not having a plan b or able to change games, making poor subs too late (i.e. changing the left back after 85 mins). Yet pretty much everyone thought he was great for this club and loved him to bits. Same with players who we'll criticise for a poor pass or shot then be soinging their name.Hate on. Disrespect. Don't give credit. Call it what you want
Got lucky with Injuries that forced 352
High line is so bad it's killing us
433 stubborn and should be changed
So lucky to have win streak we did
Throwing away playoffs
Should have put dovin in for Collins earlier. Should have put Wilson in for Collins earlier
Robins would have got us 5th too as if what lampard did was bare minimum
Wum. Ignore.Hate on. Disrespect. Don't give credit. Call it what you want
Got lucky with Injuries that forced 352
High line is so bad it's killing us
433 stubborn and should be changed
So lucky to have win streak we did
Throwing away playoffs
Should have put dovin in for Collins earlier. Should have put Wilson in for Collins earlier
Robins would have got us 5th too as if what lampard did was bare minimum
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