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Grendel

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #71
Saddlebrains said:
I was told before the Preston game on 19th October Lampard will be the man to take over if/when Robins goes

It was an open secret
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You said interviews were taking place when he was on holiday and he left it to Robert’s and Austin!
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #72
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s something a lot deeper. Objectively, the team is better this season than last season and yet we’re nowhere near that level. We finished 9th last season so that should be benchmark.

I do think Robins may have created a mess with the coaching structure and recruitment because even he didn’t know what team he wanted to play by the end of it.

With Lampard, it’s still early days but the sooner he wises up and plays Simms upfront and pair Thomas and Kitching up front, get EMC and Haji back in the team, things should look up.

It’s going to be a big summer and we need to get it right.
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The Robins stuff is just boring, he's back in work now and got his own absolute shite result today against a rubbish team everyone was writing off a 4-0 win against. Some of the players he bought in are also some of the absolute worst at the club.

What Lampard has to do is recognise that or he'll be out the door too. I'm holding judgement until I see him with a full 'deck' and an opportunity to fix a couple of wrongs in the window.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #73
TomRad85 said:
The Robins stuff is just boring, he's back in work now and got his own absolute shite result today against a rubbish team everyone was writing off a 4-0 win against. Some of the players he bought in are also some of the absolute worst at the club.

What Lampard has to do is recognise that or he'll be out the door too. I'm holding judgement until I see him with a full 'deck' and an opportunity to fix a couple of wrongs in the window.
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Have a feeling ( hope I'm wrong ) that a new manager will be in at some point maybe before Xmas next season
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #74
TomRad85 said:
The Robins stuff is just boring
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Not really. Robins has gone but Kings still here
How he handled the dismissal, whether you agree with him, don't agree with him, or are somewhere in between is still hugely relevant
 
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TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #75
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Have a feeling ( hope I'm wrong ) that a new manager will be in at some point maybe before Xmas next season
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I think he'll be allowed to limp home by Doug this season. If next season starts like this one he'll be done but hopefully not.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #76
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
agree with this, I thought half way through the first half the performance reminded me of our first season back in the championship when we expected to struggle against good teams, and picked up the odd good win here and there

we’ve gone so far backwards in terms of performances it’s unbelievable, and some of the players are playing well below their level but there are deeper problems… today Norwich were there for the taking and we should’ve beaten them but I never expected us to win, even when we were still 1-0 up with 10 to go.

results are one thing, but the way we play currently is shocking, no identity, no aggression, nothing - honestly need seven or eight new players (starters) at least
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Or a sports science and psychology department.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #77
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Got BSB Junior on the way later in the year and money will be tight. I cannot justify the expense next season.
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Congratulations.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #78
Saddlebrains said:
Fair enough view. The main reason is that my lad is getting too old to sit in the FZ (he's 15 now) so moving to a non FZ area over doubles what we would normally pay in that area for the 3 of us (myself and 10 year old daughter too)

Nigh on a grand when saving mortgage deposit and holiday can be put to much better use

*Awaits get Overson to pay for your holiday comments*
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Get Overson to pay for your holiday Again.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #79
TomRad85 said:
The Robins stuff is just boring, he's back in work now and got his own absolute shite result today against a rubbish team everyone was writing off a 4-0 win against. Some of the players he bought in are also some of the absolute worst at the club.

What Lampard has to do is recognise that or he'll be out the door too. I'm holding judgement until I see him with a full 'deck' and an opportunity to fix a couple of wrongs in the window.
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The only thing that is different this season compared to last is the coaching structure. Anyway, what is done, is done and there’s no changing that.

Lampard will recognise it, just as he did with Collins, he’ll realise that Thomas and Kitch is the best CB pairing he has and Simms is his best striker.

You add 1-2 good midfielders and a 1-2 CBs, will change a lot.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #80
Grendel said:
You said interviews were taking place when he was on holiday and he left it to Robert’s and Austin!
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He couldn't exactly not hold a 'fair and transparent' recruitment process by not having interviewed anyone could he ffs
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #81
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The only thing that is different this season compared to last is the coaching structure. Anyway, what is done, is done and there’s no changing that.

Lampard will recognise it, just as he did with Collins, he’ll realise that Thomas and Kitch is the best CB pairing he has and Simms is his best striker.

You add 1-2 good midfielders and a 1-2 CBs, will change a lot.
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And no O’Hare. And head turned Sheaf and MVE and ? Simms. All of whom need to realise that they need to be performing to secure a good move.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #82
We look poor because we are poor. But the salient fact is that, for most, poor is in comparison to teams expecting to be in and around the play offs. We’re a mid table champ budget club. That’s where we should be looking. We can’t pay big enough wages to consistently challenge top end.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #83
Saddlebrains said:
He couldn't exactly not hold a 'fair and transparent' recruitment process by not having interviewed anyone could he ffs
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Eh? He could just employ him. Last time I said it you claimed he may have turned it down and needed a back up plan!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #84
MalcSB said:
And no O’Hare. And head turned Sheaf and MVE and ? Simms. All of whom need to realise that they need to be performing to secure a good move.
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Simms (or even BTA) needs to actually start games. He hasn’t started in consecutive games since the middle of September.

Watford and Luton, he scores and dropped the next game. Cardiff, plays well and creates a goal, again dropped. Why?!

The erratic team selection from Robins and now Lampard has really done in BTA and Simms.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #85
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms (or even BTA) needs to actually start games. He hasn’t started in consecutive games since the middle of September.

Watford and Luton, he scores and dropped the next game. Cardiff, plays well and creates a goal, again dropped. Why?!

The erratic team selection from Robins and now Lampard has really done in BTA and Simms.
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Lack of game time can cause issues. But the inability to run hard when you come on as a sub is not one of them
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #86
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms (or even BTA) needs to actually start games. He hasn’t started in consecutive games since the middle of September.

Watford and Luton, he scores and dropped the next game. Cardiff, plays well and creates a goal, again dropped. Why?!

The erratic team selection from Robins and now Lampard has really done in BTA and Simms.
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nobody seesm to want to know why managers keep doing it , they just assume simms is good enough at the role they expect him to fulfill , he obviously isnt atm
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #87
Evo1883 said:
nobody seesm to want to know why managers keep doing it , they just assume simms is good enough at the role they expect him to fulfill , he obviously isnt atm
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He gets a free ride on here - I think he’s just underwhelming
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #88
Grendel said:
He gets a free ride on here - I think he’s just underwhelming
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theres nothing he excels at
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #89
Evo1883 said:
nobody seesm to want to know why managers keep doing it , they just assume simms is good enough at the role they expect him to fulfill , he obviously isnt atm
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Let's be honest, if you aren't starting ahead of BTA, who looks like a competition winner, then you are in trouble aren't you.
Simms just doesn't get involved, looks completely disinterested.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #90
Nick said:
I was baffled by lati and Eccles stood having a laugh with their players. A disgrace
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No no no! One of our own, player of the season, best midfielder we have apparently. 🫤
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #91
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Simms (or even BTA) needs to actually start games. He hasn’t started in consecutive games since the middle of September.

Watford and Luton, he scores and dropped the next game. Cardiff, plays well and creates a goal, again dropped. Why?!

The erratic team selection from Robins and now Lampard has really done in BTA and Simms.
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Simms ruled himself out with a foot injury after Luton. For me he was key to our season. Criticism on here about him scoring in clumps or against weak opposition seems odd when we are playing strikers that don't score at all but it does feel like he has some beef with the club.

Today was the second time in the first half of the season we have been forced to change formation due to player absence. Having Dovin and Bidwell back has improved the defence but now we have lost all our wingers. There is an underplayed element of bad luck here which combined with a thin squad is causing real issues.

Edit: just realised which thread I am posting in - yes we do look so poor and I don't mean to imply that is mostly down to luck.
 

Adge

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #92
clint van damme said:
Eccles was the only one giving it to the ref at the end of the game and he got pulled away.
No one else was bothered. Lampard was yards away and didn't get involved
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Maybe he needs to focus a bit more on himself and aim his anger in his teammates direction.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #93
The worst thing is the players want to put performances in like that more often

i give up

 

nicksar

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #94
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Got BSB Junior on the way later in the year and money will be tight. I cannot justify the expense next season.
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Congratulations, hope all goes well
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #95
We tactically had their number , that's why we had to defend like the south Wales borderers at rourkes drift
 
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alfielloyd

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #96
Grendel said:
He gets a free ride on here - I think he’s just underwhelming
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That describes, how I feel about Lampard, the opportunity was there to move the club forward, there was no strong evidence that he would be the answer.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #97
alfielloyd said:
That describes, how I feel about Lampard, the opportunity was there to move the club forward, there was no strong evidence that he would be the answer.
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False9

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #98
Evo1883 said:
We tactically had their number , that's why we had to defend like the south Wales borderers at rourkes drift
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Twitter has worse opinions than this forum
 

nicksar

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #99
Evo1883 said:
We tactically had their number , that's why we had to defend like the south Wales borderers at rourkes drift
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*24th (second Warwickshire) regiment of foot were the primary British who fought at Rorkes drift Evo
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #100
nicksar said:
*24th (second Warwickshire) regiment of foot were the primary British who fought at Rorkes drift Evo
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Briles

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #101
junglej13 said:
The defence was the best part of the team today... Which is a concern!

Midfield is shocking without Sheaf. Eccles standard performance is 6/10. Torp is never a player in a million years. Would play Allen all day every day ahead of both.

The strikers look so poor even though we barely create anything. Not one of them can hold the ball up for a millisecond. Killed us second half today because they are incapable of controlling a football.

Angers me so much the money we have wasted assembling this shite.
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Individually the money spent is fine. It's the team that's the issue
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #102
Briles said:
Individually the money spent is fine. It's the team that's the issue
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Was just watching the highlights ,what a miss by BTA and their 2 nd goal is a clear foul.
 
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Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #103
We've been very poor all season . This is just a continuation of what was being served up earlier .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #104
We need somebody to go fucking mental at the pussys we call players.

Make Lati watch that shit back and tell him it's embarrassing.

Make BTA watch that miss back this week and last and tell him he's being paid good money so what the fuck is it
 
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2025
  • #105
clint van damme said:
Eccles was the only one giving it to the ref at the end of the game and he got pulled away.
No one else was bothered. Lampard was yards away and didn't get involved
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Let's face it, if Lampard had got involved after the match that could have been a match winner!!! FFS
It's 4th January and that is a contender for the worst post of 2025
 
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