We dont ask much

Bennoisback

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i have recently purchased my season ticket for the 30th year, and in all this time City fans have never asked for much. we dont demand cup finals, europe or promotion like other clubs.
And worse yet i still dont see people who think we will go back up this year or even next!!!!

I dont rant about shitsu out, they did once save us.......however this has gone past a joke now, we have become a laughing stock thanks to these bastards, its just lies after lies. Only Rangers are bigger jokes than the City at the moment.
All i ask now is for some truth and honesty from them...............we do deserve that at least!!!!
 

kg82

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If they told you the truth though, would you believe it?! I'd struggle to trust anything that's said.
 

wingy

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No maybe not, but just think we deserve to be told something............even if we dont like it.
I'd love to hear it straight ,absolutely up front though i'm sure we would'nt like it,also a word from GH either way ,in or out definetively would also be as productive if he was ever in.
 

Grendel

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No maybe not, but just think we deserve to be told something............even if we dont like it.
Honesty would have been better all along. Even at the beginning of last season I think some openness about the fact we are in financial strife, need to rely on youth players etc. would have worked better than the Iron Curtain of secrecy that came down.
 

kg82

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Yeah, benno, me too. Thing is, even if they said everything that's wrong, painted an unimaginable picture, I'd still think they were holding something from us. I'm not one to call for hearing all this behind the scenes stuff, but this embargo is an absolute joke, it just shows a complete lack if respect for every supporter.
 

Sky Blue 64

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After all this time - I still can't get my mind around the fact that SISU where activly looking to get into football - firstly through Man City then Southampton.

For a hedge fund to get involved they surley had to do their homework, that is how they make their money!!!! and surley their findings would have told them that there is no instant return in footall.

So for a simpleton will someone tell me why they bought us?
 

Godiva

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Honesty would have been better all along. Even at the beginning of last season I think some openness about the fact we are in financial strife, need to rely on youth players etc. would have worked better than the Iron Curtain of secrecy that came down.
The thing is, that anybody reading this forum have known the truth about the financial situation all along.
Not from club or owner statements, but from our own financial detective aka OSB.

Saying that the club should have been open and straight about the situation is easy, but if they had done that all sorts of problems could occour to worsen the situation: Suppliers could seize trading with the club or demand money up front. Players would be adviced by their agents to get out fast. Potential signings would never even consider a move here. Clubs wouldn't loan us players. Any bid for our own players would be cut to bargain price. The staff at the club would seriously begin to look for another job elsewhere.
The list goes on.
It would have been suicide to tell the world we're broke and live from day-to-day as our investors won't put in more money.
 

Stoppercurtis

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SKy Blue 64 - Couldn't agree more. They must of thought that they could get us to the promised land quick and then they make loads of money. However they never invested anywhere near enough for that to happen. So they simly did not know enough about the game.

So in the end they made a hugh error of judgement which they are now having to live with!

Stopper
 

dongonzalos

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The truth should now be the best bet for SISU, you would think.

We might understand some of the tough decisions SISU have had to make

That is unless there is something more to why we are not seeing the books.

An example of things that could be of concern would be giving the fans and possibly the management the impression that there would be signings. Yet maybe when you actualy see the books you instantly realise this was never going to be an option?

Obviously this is just myself trying to think of reasons why they would not be transparent with us when they promised they would be.

You are right we dont demand much. All we are aksing for at the moment is some free transfers or loanees. I dont think that is a massive ask for a team in league one who will probably get 12-14 thousand fans and had already sold over 5000 season tickets.
 
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dongonzalos

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The truth should now be the best bet for SISU, you would think.

We might understand some of the tough decisions SISU have had to make

That is unless there is something more to why we are not seeing the books.

An example of things that could be of concern would be giving the fans and possibly the management the impression that there would be signings. Yet maybe when you actualy see the books you instantly realise this was never going to be an option?

Obviously this is just myself trying to think of reasons why they would not be transparent with us when they promised they would be.

You are right we dont demand much. All we are aksing for at the moment is some free transfers or loanees. I dont think that is a massive ask for a team in league one who will probably get 12-14 thousand fans and had already sold over 5000 season tickets. .
But then you wonder what incentive do they have to be honest with the fans?

Are the fans on mass refusing to turn up if they don't start getting some honesty? No

Are there mass protests? No

If SISU are not honest with the fans will they still get the same income from the fans? yes.

If they spin and manipulate things and give the impression there will be a bounce back budget may they swing the odd extra fan into buying a season ticket? yes

I am not saying whether buying season tickets under the current circumstances is right or wrong as that will start an entirely new debate.

What I am saying is when you think about it, you can see why SISU stay quite there is no incentive for them not to and it is easier for them to stay quite.
 
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cloughie

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The thing is, that anybody reading this forum have known the truth about the financial situation all along.
Not from club or owner statements, but from our own financial detective aka OSB.

Saying that the club should have been open and straight about the situation is easy, but if they had done that all sorts of problems could occour to worsen the situation: Suppliers could seize trading with the club or demand money up front. Players would be adviced by their agents to get out fast. Potential signings would never even consider a move here. Clubs wouldn't loan us players. Any bid for our own players would be cut to bargain price. The staff at the club would seriously begin to look for another job elsewhere.
The list goes on.
It would have been suicide to tell the world we're broke and live from day-to-day as our investors won't put in more money.
You say all sorts of problems could occur yet it seems like you are describing what is happening.

If an agent is doing his job then they will obviously advise Cranie and Keogh to leave with the info we already know about the state of the club.

Potential signings are already signing for other clubs.

We hardly have had any loan players.

Players sold ie Turner sold for well below his true value.

Sounds like suicide is the only option left.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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After all this time - I still can't get my mind around the fact that SISU where activly looking to get into football - firstly through Man City then Southampton.

For a hedge fund to get involved they surley had to do their homework, that is how they make their money!!!! and surley their findings would have told them that there is no instant return in footall.

So for a simpleton will someone tell me why they bought us?
Absolutely agree, can only assume that Ranson sold them his vision, then the credit crunch happened and their investors got cold feet. I assume this, although it has never been articulated to us by anybody from SISU.
 

Godiva

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You say all sorts of problems could occur yet it seems like you are describing what is happening.

If an agent is doing his job then they will obviously advise Cranie and Keogh to leave with the info we already know about the state of the club.

Potential signings are already signing for other clubs.

We hardly have had any loan players.

Players sold ie Turner sold for well below his true value.

Sounds like suicide is the only option left.
Yes, NOW everybody knows ... but it was not the case a year ago when the fans first called sisu for liars and demanded to know the truth.
Telling the truth a year ago would have been suicide.
 

cloughie

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Yes, NOW everybody knows ... but it was not the case a year ago when the fans first called sisu for liars and demanded to know the truth.
Telling the truth a year ago would have been suicide.
Why ?

Everything I have said happened and has been suicidal business regarding the team and ANY HOPE of CCFC recovering.

Sucecess on the pitch generates income which we sadly lack
 

smouch1975

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Any supplier that has not spent an hour on here to bring themselves up to speed with the well, alas partially complete financial state of the club, should in all honesty be out of business anyways.

Would any supplier not have started asking questions once the rent stopped?
 

Ashdown

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The thing is, that anybody reading this forum have known the truth about the financial situation all along.
Not from club or owner statements, but from our own financial detective aka OSB.

Saying that the club should have been open and straight about the situation is easy, but if they had done that all sorts of problems could occour to worsen the situation: Suppliers could seize trading with the club or demand money up front. Players would be adviced by their agents to get out fast. Potential signings would never even consider a move here. Clubs wouldn't loan us players. Any bid for our own players would be cut to bargain price. The staff at the club would seriously begin to look for another job elsewhere.
The list goes on.
It would have been suicide to tell the world we're broke and live from day-to-day as our investors won't put in more money.
You think all this is a big secret then !!??