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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,051
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Three away games in a row we've lost in the last 10 minutes of the match.

What has Kelly done to have deserved being completely frozen out? Either that or he's not fit in which case why is he on the bench? If you don't want to bring him on to see out a 2-2 draw away at one of the top sides in the league then when are you ever going to use him?
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He must have thought O'Hare was worth keeping on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,052
curly_tom said:
This will be a long hard season but I think we're good enough to stay up and that's surely the objective. We are giving some of these teams a decent run, the break now will be good for us and we will start picking up points soon. Disappointing to concede another pen though, I guess the pressure causes mistakes.
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We also keep giving them 3 points no matter how shit they are on the day
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,053
We’ve got to cut out the stupid mistakes, ohare today Biamou on Wednesday, we are a good side but we need to start turning that into wins.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,054
SleepyGinger said:
We’ve got to cut out the stupid mistakes, ohare today Biamou on Wednesday, we are a good side but we need to start turning that into wins.
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We can’t Even do the basics
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,055

covcity4life said:
Unlucky city. Good performance vs one of best teams away

Confident we can stay up. We look like equals now andnno longer league 1 team punching above our weight

Keep the faith. Performances are getting there. Results will follow
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Thank you - I know a lot are frustrated, but that was a decent team performance. One or two individuals need to up their game, but on the positive side, I thought Walker looked a bit sharper, Hamer had a good game, Sheaf is getting stronger (although he has Kelly type nose bleeds when he gets near the opposition's area). Thought Oggy's comments were correct about Watford not really pressing suited us. Rose's distribution was poor at times (as occasionally was Hyam's) when under no pressure, but overall I saw enough about the team to suggest we will win games. Some of the 'lurking misery guts' who round on the team need to realise that we're facing Sarr, Deeney and co rather than Rochdale, Gillingham and the like. Seeing people say that following us is sh*t - short memories.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,056
Yes robins left it late for the subs the bench was hardly inspiring today was it?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,057
Liquid Gold said:
Why? Because we got promoted? That's bollocks.

We may have been promoted but we've never done the dark arts, we should have been a shoe in in League two and we outplayed teams last year, we're never going to do that at this level so if we can't work out how to do other things then we'll be straight back down.
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Look at how we've lost recent matches, then try and tell me what Robins can do to stop players making silly mistakes... Like biamou passing back, or o hare raising his hands...

Without those 2 mistakes (which they are) we've got 5 points from the last 3 matches and your attitude right now about the team is slightly different

You'd have to say in the last couple of matches Robins has got almost nothing wrong and ultimately his players let him down at key moments

We played well today, well in the week and well last week... Weve got 3 points.... It's hard to blame Robins for that
 
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ccfcway

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,058
larry_david said:
Criminal.

3 goals again. Criminal
Another pen again. Criminal
No subs until 89th min against a team who were prem last season. Criminal
Biamou missing from 3 yards. Criminal
Biamou taking a fucking free kick in that position when in 3 seasons he's never taken one. Criminal.
Naivety. Criminal
Going 2-1 up then conceding from a fucking corner. Criminal.
Bringing Jamie Allen on. Criminal
Fucking fed up
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Criminal ?. Have you forgotten where we were 3 years ago ?. Even the fact we have a choice between Biamou v baka should show we simply don’t have the budget to buy the quality.

The fact that some are saying we should have bought on a 18 year old with no experience at all should show what we are up against
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,059
rate we are going we will be down by March. We are on for 32 points this season.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,060
People are forgetting how tough our start has been.

Judge us in December when we've played some bottom half teams.

We'll be OK.
 
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Barnsley

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,061
Evo1883 said:
Good that they're beating Derby though
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we’ve just won 2-0 and controlled a game we had 28% possession in we’ve started taking our chances now though. Some decent fixtures coming up too.
 
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skyblues83

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,062
So lucky we aren't going into break in the bottom 3. Should have brought Kelly on 2-1 up. Positives - Sheaf and Hamer looking good, Walker scoring, another improved performance, however really need to start getting some points or we will get left behind.Also need Dabo to get and stay fit. Would definitely keep Max in the team against Bham and want to see Jobello on the bench.
 
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Blind-Faith

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,063
Keep giving 2-3 goals away every week we have no chance. Ill actually retract what i said about Biamou in the first half. His miss was criminal but he did get the assist for walkers goal and his hold up play and bringing others into the game was good so they cancel each other out.

Michael Roses passing was awful second half. McCallum although playing the wrong side, kept getting done and missing his headers ( although his clearance one in the first half was class ) , i cannot see the point of jamie allen or bringing subs on in the 89th minute?

Hyam is our best defender, my only concern with him is his pace. Sheaf is a class act. Hamer may have been a touch quieter but if it keeps him out of the refs book thats not a bad thing. Marosi should of saved the 2nd and the cross he let through his hands was a worry, will put it down to a bad day at the office for him. O'hare nowhere near as good 2nd half, regardless whether he gave the pen away or not.

Just a bit pissed off as being 2-1 up in a game i thought we would get a hiding in. If they had done us 5-0 i wouldnt of been as bothered, But the fact we deserved a point out the game and had a chance for 3 just frustrating!

Get back to basics and sort the defending out because if we dont concede we cant lose the game.
 
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Pete in Portugal

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,064
Sheaf has improved a lot. BUT, with his passing, he reminds me of sideways Sammy. Also, after receiving the ball, he takes far too much time holding it, before using it. If Kelly is fit, he should surely play ahead of Sheaf.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,065
Ccfcisparks said:
rate we are going we will be down by March. We are on for 32 points this season.
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And if that is the case, (which I don’t think it is) that will be consistent with budgets for players and wages.

It’s like Norwich fans moaning about the prem league last season.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,066
skyblues83 said:
So lucky we aren't going into break in the bottom 3. Should have brought Kelly on 2-1 up. Positives - Sheaf and Hamer looking good, Walker scoring, another improved performance, however really need to start getting some points or we will get left behind.Also need Dabo to get and stay fit. Would definitely keep Max in the team against Bham and want to see Jobello on the bench.
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We were 2-1 up for 50. Seconds lad.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,067
Evo1883 said:
Look at how we've lost recent matches, then try and tell me what Robins can do to stop players making silly mistakes... Like biamou passing back, or o hare raising his hands...

Without those 2 mistakes (which they are) we've got 5 points from the last 3 matches and your attitude right now about the team is slightly different

You'd have to say in the last couple of matches Robins has got almost nothing wrong and ultimately his players let him down at key moments

We played well today, well in the week and well last week... Weve got 3 points.... It's hard to blame Robins for that
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You're just going on about other stuff now.

I'm talking about us being 'streetwise' not chucking your hands up in the box and not passing the ball away to strikers is part of that. It's a manager's job to make sure his players don't make those mistakes and if they do learn from them, not make them again and if they do punish them for it by taking them out of the team. He himself has said we need to improve upon it for years and he's not getting us to do it.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,068
Pete in Portugal said:
Sheaf has improved a lot. BUT, with his passing, he reminds me of sideways Sammy. Also, after receiving the ball, he takes far too much time holding it, before using it. If Kelly is fit, he should surely play ahead of Sheaf.
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Clearly don't watch the games then .
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,069
Pete in Portugal said:
Sheaf has improved a lot. BUT, with his passing, he reminds me of sideways Sammy. Also, after receiving the ball, he takes far too much time holding it, before using it. If Kelly is fit, he should surely play ahead of Sheaf.
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Disagree not every pass will be a forced forward one he’s miles ahead of Kelly at this level you need composure

you’ve clearly not seen sheaf play these last few weeks
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,070
I'm still absolutely convinced we will pick up points much more comfortably from December onwards... Infact save it and quote me
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,071
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I don’t think they have any better players than us
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behave
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,072
Liquid Gold said:
You're just going on about other stuff now.

I'm talking about us being 'streetwise' not chucking your hands up in the box and not passing the ball away to strikers is part of that. It's a manager's job to make sure his players don't make those mistakes and if they do learn from them, not make them again and if they do punish them for it by taking them out of the team. He himself has said we need to improve upon it for years and he's not getting us to do it.
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O hare... Don't stick your hands up in the box.... OK gaffa


Obviously he will never do it again
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,073
Da costa has played 3 mins over 2 games and someone said its clear he isn't fully fit??? How can anyone tell???? All I know if he is strong after he barged Watford lad over
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,074
Evo1883 said:
I'm still absolutely convinced we will pick up points much more comfortably from December onwards... Infact save it and quote me
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Reckon we'll still be losing 3-2 and people will still be saying we played well
 
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larry_david

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,075
ccfcway said:
Criminal ?. Have you forgotten where we were 3 years ago ?. Even the fact we have a choice between Biamou v baka should show we simply don’t have the budget to buy the quality.

The fact that some are saying we should have bought on a 18 year old with no experience at all should show what we are up against
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Oh bore off. 3 years ago? Fucking hell we've walked league 1 since then and a killer virus is on the loose. Things change, I know where we've come from and I know where we're going if we don't stop giving away goals.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,076
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Reckon we'll still be losing 3-2 and people will still be saying we played well
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Like I said save it and quote me.we will start to pick up in December
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,077
Overall a very encouraging performance but for a few very sloppy moments. We need to be more streetwise and go down under pressure especially in our box. However if we are to stay in this division we need a run of clean sheets. December will be make or break


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ccfcway

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,078
larry_david said:
Oh bore off. 3 years ago? Fucking hell we've walked league 1 since then and a killer virus is on the loose. Things change, I know where we've come from and I know where we're going if we don't stop giving away goals.
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to league one with a very young and talented squad who has experience of the championship and a very good market value which enables us to further invest and compete again ?

Curious, what are you expecting this season ?

I honestly think we will give it a real good go (like today) and be ok
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,079
Watford away was never going to be a game we expected to get anything from. The fact that we came very close to getting something is encouraging BUT we need to cut out the stupid mistakes that WILL cost us in the games we really need to win against bottom half sides.
 
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skyblues83

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,080
Kieranp96 said:
We were 2-1 up for 50. Seconds lad.
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Shite meant at 2-2 , we all knew Watford would go for the win yet no changes were made until 90th min
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,081
SIR ERNIE said:
Watford away was never going to be a game we expected to get anything from. The fact that we came very close to getting something is encouraging BUT we need to cut out the stupid mistakes that WILL cost us in the games we really need to win against bottom half sides.
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Don't they have the best home record in the league...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,082
Evo1883 said:
Like I said save it and quote me.we will start to pick up in December
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We'll be deep in trouble by then.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,083
Unfortunately the endless excuses, what ifs, praising performances despite zero points is all too reminiscent of the last time we got relegated from this division.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,084
Evo1883 said:
Like I said save it and quote me.we will start to pick up in December
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This has been my position all along and I hope you're right but I'm worried because I can actually see the quality there already but the mistakes are coming though. That's not what I expected.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Nov 7, 2020
  • #1,085
Pete in Portugal said:
Sheaf has improved a lot. BUT, with his passing, he reminds me of sideways Sammy. Also, after receiving the ball, he takes far too much time holding it, before using it. If Kelly is fit, he should surely play ahead of Sheaf.
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Really? Would be interested in seeing his stats from that game, but I think he’s the most progressive passer we have. Always looks forwards, sometimes there’s no option so he has to go sideways or backwards. Becoming one of our best players IMO.
 
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