Nick
Administrator
Where was it confirmed we were going to play after Northampton?
Where was it confirmed we were going to play after Northampton?You new the move away from the City was temporary? How?
Have SISU talked to CCC about building a new ground in the City?
.The move was temporary as that was all the FL granted permission for. The club had to agree a return to the 'Coventry area'. If they didn't the golden share could be revoked.
If the club do ever build a new stadium it won't be in the city unless CCC rewrite the city plan. CCC have already confirmed to the CT that there is no possible site for a stadium within the city boundary.
Frankly I have zero issues if Fisher says a new stadium is being built somewhere like Ansty Park, the other side of the motorway from the Ricoh, Brandon, Warwick Uni, the airport, Ryton or any other site relatively close to the city. If he announced we were doing something similar to Wasps and moving 100 miles away it would be very different.
Where was it confirmed we were going to play after Northampton?
So where exactly? You don't know do you?Not in Coventry. As you well know. It started as 8miles from the council house and quickly moved to 10 maybe 12 but if an ideal site becomes available that's a mile or two further that would have been acceptable (to SISU).
So where exactly? You don't know do you?
If and when that announcement had come I'd have judged the location and decided if that was acceptable to me or not like I will if the new stadium was ever to happen.
If they had started building in brum I'd be done
I don't know, nothing was confirmed was it? That's the point I could have judged for myself the location and whether it was acceptable to me or not.See my reply to cheif and read his post. We can say for sure it wasn't going to be in the City of Coventry. So that only tells you we weren't coming home and the move was sold as permanent.
I'll throw that question back at you. Where in exactly Coventry was it going to be? Were SISU even going to consider a site in Coventry?
I don't know, nothing was confirmed was it? That's the point I could have judged for myself the location and whether it was acceptable to me or not.
Obviously we can't say for sure, as it didn't happen did it?
It doesn't change that it was temporary, wasps isn't. That is the difference, if we moved 80 miles full time then of course I'd be done. The same as if it was ever confirmed we were moving to Kettering full time.
We're STILL being told that the new stadium won't be in Coventry. We also know that they have spoken to RBC not CCC. The move to our new ground is STILL being sold as a permanent one. The only difference NOW is that we're temporarily playing in Coventry not Northampton. So (and this is pretty easy to grasp) at the time you were attending Northampton the move was being sold as permanent. Indeed we even started this season at Northampton so for you to say you always knew the move was temporary is spurious bullshit.
What I'm disputing is the suggestion that the move out of Coventry wasn't promoted as a permanent one. Like you have pointed out, there is no 60 acre sight available in the City so if we had have stayed at Northampton until SISU built us a new stadium then the move away from the City would be permanent.
No surprise really how fast Wasps have gone back on their word. When they arrived they said they would be playing on Sundays so as not to impact on CRFC. Now it's 'minimise' the impact of CRFC whatever the hell that means. Probably means CRFC have to move their games if they clash.
CRFC have little say in the fixture dates except in exceptional circumstances - WASPS playing will not be one of them
I don't know, nothing was confirmed was it? That's the point I could have judged for myself the location and whether it was acceptable to me or not.
Obviously we can't say for sure, as it didn't happen did it?
It doesn't change that it was temporary, wasps isn't. That is the difference, if we moved 80 miles full time then of course I'd be done. The same as if it was ever confirmed we were moving to Kettering full time.
Whatever...., fact is we have made zero progress on a new stadium. There is no site available in Coventry. Beyond 3 years we don't have a groundshare in Coventry confirmed - we are at Wasps' mercy.
So, we are by no means back in Coventry and if Wasps knock us back we are permanently out of Coventry. TF may yet be right that we will never play in Cov again ( after 3 years ). I am not interested in the morals of franchising or hedge funds. It is all about our survival - morals are a luxury to be discussed later. As far as hedge funds go, I would prefer one with a Premier League stadium in Coventry as our owners.
So if we need to move outside of Coventry to survive then what is the problem?
Yes, I did know it was temporary at the time. That's why I said while it's temporary I'd go, the moment it's not I wouldn't.
It's really not hard to grasp.
I didn't know the move was always going to be temporary, but at the time I was attending it was. It could have changed, if it did then I would have re-assessed it.
Does this mean the new stadium is fact now then? If or when the new stadium happens then I see where it is, what the circumstances are and judge if it is acceptable to me.
It really isn't that hard to understand is it? Not too sure why you don't want to accept that our move was different to Wasps.
Apparently it is that hard to understand. You did know the move was temporary and now apparently you didn't.
To start with for your argument to hold up you have to believe SISU are building a new stadium, how many people genuinely think that is going to happen? Maybe a handful now but at the time our moving to Northampton meant an empty Ricoh. I think you would struggle to find someone who didn't think the move was part of a plan to get the Ricoh. Don't think anyway was seriously thinking the council and Higgs, who were constantly telling us what a disgrace it was to move a club away from their community, were about to drop in a rugby team from London.
Secondly you're talking about a move out of the city as equatable with Wasps moving from London, its not even remotely the same thing. A move outside the city could literally mean moving the other side of an arbitrary boundary. As has been mentioned before boundaries have been known to move so having that binary perception of being Coventry City or not seems strange to me. As many said at the time if and when a new site was announced they would make a decision based on the location rather than a line someone once drew on a map.
As I've already said in this thread. What I believe is of no consequence to what the people running our club were saying and whether I believed them or not to attend Northampton was a gamble that they were bullshitting. A gamble some were willing to take and I like the majority wasn't.
I must be mistaken I thought this was in the Wasps sub forum, and is about Wasps playing on Saturdays, not about how many people (me included) didnt go to Northampton.
Perhaps we can move onto why Highfield Road was sold next in the discussion, and then the League Cup Semi Final of 81, then Clarrie Bourton super striker and so on........
The sixfields/wasps arguments have been repeated so often it might save a lot of time if there was just a sticky that listed them e.g. temporary/nomadic; just wanted to support my team/just want to watch top flight rugby etc etc
I must be mistaken I thought this was in the Wasps sub forum, and is about Wasps playing on Saturdays, not about how many people (me included) didnt go to Northampton.
Perhaps we can move onto why Highfield Road was sold next in the discussion, and then the League Cup Semi Final of 81, then Clarrie Bourton super striker and so on........
Whatever genious they employ who came up with this Idea will be down the Jobcentre next
What an arrogant, Overconfident move by them
The accident of Sunday games IMO gave them a huge leg up Spectator and TV exposure wise
The future of CCFC and more Importantly The Original Rugby team In the City are Safe
with acumen on a scale such as this
Intheknow, intheknow! Do you know if they consulted CRFC or not?
No consultation.
I won't believe that until intheknow tells me.
Nor me - he knows you know.
He's got experience.
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