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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #1

Statement on CCFC decision to pull out of negotiations

www.wasps.co.uk
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #2
SeaSeeEffCee said:

Statement on CCFC decision to pull out of negotiations

www.wasps.co.uk
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Shots fired.

Very different tone to last time when both statements were in virtual agreement.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #3
Hmmm tgis is a biggie. They flat out saying its not indemnity

So what the fuck is going on. Ccfc pretty much saod defo sumthing to do with third party. But what ?
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #4
shmmeee said:
Shots fired.

Very different tone to last time when both statements were in virtual agreement.
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It just got very interesting.... The bit about Warwick uni sounds quite salty and is very carefully worded around the indemnity
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #5
Hard to know who to believe really. Obviously want to believe the club but let's not pretend like both clubs haven't had a history of telling porkies. Seems very bizarre for such different stories to be coming from both sides when they've been pretty aligned previously.
 

shepardo01

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #6
Jesus....here we go...
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #7
covcity4life said:
Hmmm tgis is a biggie. They flat out saying its not indemnity

So what the fuck is going on. Ccfc pretty much saod defo sumthing to do with third party. But what ?
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CCFC said explicitly it was an indemnity for the third party.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #8
shmmeee said:
CCFC said explicitly it was an indemnity for the third party.
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Not quite. They said last year it was I think
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #9
“We were not aware the club would be making a statement this evening and will be looking carefully at elements of what they have claimed, and may possibly comment further in the next couple of days.”



Can’t wait.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #10
EU decision been reached?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #11
covcity4life said:
Not quite. They said last year it was I think
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Yeah but weren’t they going “it’s the same as last year, can’t tell you what happened this year but here what happened last year and it’s the same as that”?
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #12
shmmeee said:
“We were not aware the club would be making a statement this evening and will be looking carefully at elements of what they have claimed, and may possibly comment further in the next couple of days.”



Can’t wait.
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We will better them in court

Tbh sad state of affairs. Build own ground but stay in cov meanwhile

Whichever one of them is lying can gonfuck themsleves
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #13
wingy said:
EU decision been reached?
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Who would be first to know? You’d assume the council who would inform Wasps, no? Do Sisu get dibs as complainants?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #14
Interesting. Needs the local media to press all sides hard, including the council who are obviously the third party, to get complete clarification around the indemnity for a change. Really hope they're up to the job.

Why do I get a sneaky feeling a trap has been laid, is this going to be one of those occasions where the club suddenly produce a load of emails to back up their story?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #15
Wasps' statement looks hasty (so I accept they didn't realise CCFC had pulled the plug) whereas the CCFC one has been prepared for a (little) while at least.
Are SISU seeking to force a break of the NDA?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #16
I mean it has to be said... What the actual fuck
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #17
This is fucking massive. It means there is a truth somewhere and one of them is lying.

We need a decent local jorno not taking part in client journalism that could actually make a name for themselves.
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #18
fernandopartridge said:
Wasps' statement looks hasty (so I accept they didn't realise CCFC had pulled the plug) whereas the CCFC one has been prepared for a (little) while at least.
Are SISU seeking to force a break of the NDA?
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It does have a feel of before where they dropped out some email attachments.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #19
Evo1883 said:
I mean it has to be said... What the actual fuck
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Never a dull day.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #20
shmmeee said:
Yeah but weren’t they going “it’s the same as last year, can’t tell you what happened this year but here what happened last year and it’s the same as that”?
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This is the relevant bit. About as clear as they can make it without breaking the NDA. You don't have to be a genius to work out what they are getting at.
However following months of negotiations and despite being very close to agreeing commercial conditions, the same issues that prevented a deal last season have again prevented a deal for the upcoming season.

Unfortunately we are unable to disclose full details due to the requirement to sign a non-disclosure agreement prior to negotiations taking place.

Last year the critical issue was Wasps’ insistence of indemnity clauses into the license agreement, with this indemnity for themselves and for a third-party.

Coventry City and its Owners last year, during failed talks for the 2019-20 season, made a written undertaking to irrevocably cease all proceedings against Wasps relating to the sale and lease of the Ricoh Arena. No legal action against Wasps or its Owners exists, and Coventry City and its Owners have again made this same undertaking this year.

Despite this undertaking, the clauses introduced by Wasps, for themselves and for a third-party, then added conditions that would unreasonably restrict the Club and SISU’s basic legal rights and would commit the Club and SISU to underwrite Wasps’ and that third-party’s costs and all future damages. This would put the Football Club at substantial risk and jeopardise its very future.
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Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #21
As if it could get any messier!
 

jordan210

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #22
Wasps say no indemnity on legal case. As the EU isn’t a legal case. Looks like a nice play on words
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #23
chiefdave said:
This is the relevant bit. About as clear as they can make it without breaking the NDA. You don't have to be a genius to work out what they are getting at.
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You’re going to have to spell it out. That just seems like a rehash of last years stuff.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #24
wingy said:
EU decision been reached?
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Wouldn't think so.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #25
Well, don't reckon we'll be playing at the Ricoh any time soon after all this...
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #26
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Well, don't reckon we'll be playing at the Ricoh any time soon after all this...
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dont think we were ever going to
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #27
What the fuck is going on
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #28
wingy said:
EU decision been reached?
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Are they the third party ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #29
Evo1883 said:
The reason I feel wasps are lying..... The statement is too nice
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It seems a bit rushed. They haven't got a response for certain things CCFC has said so I am not sure they were expecting it to be said.

I can't quite figure it out yet, there will be more to come.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #30
SkyBlueDom26 said:
What the fuck is going on
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are you surprised ?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #31
Definitely someone is lying
 
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jordan210

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #32
It’s going to be interesting to see what wasps say in the coming days. Dint last time this happens the club released a statement from SiSU with emails and stuff in it. Before wasps put out a full statement
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #33
“The news that CCFC is working in partnership with the University of Warwick to create its own stadium was not communicated to us until after it was released publicly"

Errr, why would it be?

"may possibly comment further in the next couple of days.”

Don't trouble yourselves now will you?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #34
It seems like Wasps / CCC are a bit rattled by the Warwick Uni stuff.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 24, 2020
  • #35
Frostie said:
“The news that CCFC is working in partnership with the University of Warwick to create its own stadium was not communicated to us until after it was released publicly"

Errr, why would it be?

"may possibly comment further in the next couple of days.”

Don't trouble yourselves now will you?
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Unless the first bit is relative to the deal on the table
 
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