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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (9 Viewers)

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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,291
mark82 said:
ACL didn't file intention of administration until about a week or so later, so assume they won't enter admin today.
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There are two separate ACL companies.

Need to differentiate between them and what each one of them contains and does.

Again, far more knowledgable people than me are tuned into this on the thread that can give an answer.
 

B-Ban-Boogie

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,292
fatso said:
Perhaps an Elephants foot stamping on the fucker.
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Was going to get a flag of this a few years ago...
I'd forgot I had it until your post..
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,293
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I know… quote the email to him
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Oh I will if they lend them money.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,294
I think it may be safe to say that communication has totally broken down between a few parties.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,295
Nick said:
I did last week View attachment 26643
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Being pedantic- should have said "yes" to the question?
 

standupforcity

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,296
Is their fixture v Sale tomorrow still on at the CBS?
 
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Seamus1

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,297
standupforcity said:
Is their fixture v Sale tomorrow still on at the CBS?
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No, it has been cancelled. Pitch is going to be good for Wednesday
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,298
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I mean this could backfire a little here. We need ACL running at least up until the World Cup
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Don't the terms of the lease mean that the council can take the lease back and, at least temporarily, take over running ACL.

Loaning money and the company still being in the control of Wasps should be off the table.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,299
chiefdave said:
Don't the terms of the lease mean that the council can take the lease back and, at least temporarily, take over running ACL.

Loaning money and the company still being in the control of Wasps should be off the table.
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I don’t see why they just don’t let ACL go bust then the stadium is not encumbered.

becomes far more saleable
 

hill83

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,301
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I don’t see why they just don’t let ACL go bust then the stadium is not encumbered.

becomes far more saleable
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The over riding charges don't disappear
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,302
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I mean this could backfire a little here. We need ACL running at least up until the World Cup
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Just more games to play after the big January Mike Ashley rebuild
 

SomersetSB

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,303
As soon as they are in admin can we take those stupid badges off and fill in that lettering in Tesco stand?⚽️
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,304
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I don’t see why they just don’t let ACL go bust then the stadium is not encumbered.

becomes far more saleable
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Wonder if they owe the council anything already?
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,305
ccfc922 said:
Surely there should be legal/criminal proceedings against Wasps board members if they've continued taking money to spend on a failing business? Is it not classed as fraud?
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I imagine this would be a difficult one to prove. Many many companies are loss making for a number of years when they are created. If you have lines of credit and a business plan you could so seen as a going concern. They will point to the fact HSBC nearly leant them money etc.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Oct 17, 2022
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,307
skyblu3sk said:
I imagine this would be a difficult one to prove. Many many companies are loss making for a number of years when they are created. If you have lines of credit and a business plan you could so seen as a going concern. They will point to the fact HSBC nearly leant them money etc.
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The transfer of ownership of the training ground is dodgy as… looks like asset stripping ahead of liquidation which as far as I understand is highly illegal.

Unless of course full market value was paid in exchange.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,308
skybluetony176 said:
The transfer of ownership of the training ground is dodgy as… looks like asset stripping ahead of liquidation which as far as I understand is highly illegal.
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Why can't people just be honest and decent when their businesses are failing or am I being a c*ck?
 
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Ash

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,309
It’sabatch87 said:
As soon as they are in admin can we take those stupid badges off and fill in that lettering in Tesco stand?
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I was sad enough to count the blocks so we could fit “Coventry City” in there. I know… too much spare time!
 

SHUNT31

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,310
Ash said:
I was sad enough to count the blocks so we could fit “Coventry City” in there. I know… too much spare time!
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Should put PUSB there


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oldfiver

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,311
skybluetony176 said:
The transfer of ownership of the training ground is dodgy as… looks like asset stripping ahead of liquidation which as far as I understand is highly illegal.

Unless of course full market value was paid in exchange.
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As has been repeatedly said - the training ground was never owned by Wasps Holdings.
 

edgy

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,312
2pm eyes peeled.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,313
oldfiver said:
As has been repeatedly said - the training ground was never owned by Wasps Holdings.
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Almost like those in charge foresaw this eventuality like the rest of us...
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,314
Think some of us are getting ahead of ourselves here. Do we know Ashley is even in for the club? Somehow in all of this we are going to end up at St Andrews, I just know it lol.
 

AOM

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,315
shmmeee said:
Just more games to play after the big January Mike Ashley rebuild
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Looking forward to Andy Carroll firing us up the league after January
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,316
skybluetony176 said:
The transfer of ownership of the training ground is dodgy as… looks like asset stripping ahead of liquidation which as far as I understand is highly illegal.

Unless of course full market value was paid in exchange.
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Hmmm unless it was purchased with a loan from the director that they have defaulted on so therefore the asset transfers? Not sure how else they could do it.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,317
bad boy said:
Why can't people just be honest and decent when their businesses are failing or am I being a c*ck?
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Depends it they are failing, it can sometimes be cash flow issues etc. In this case I do think it's a failing business but the directors will be bought in to the project and may have truly believed they could turn it around with time.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,318
skyblu3sk said:
I imagine this would be a difficult one to prove. Many many companies are loss making for a number of years when they are created. If you have lines of credit and a business plan you could so seen as a going concern. They will point to the fact HSBC nearly leant them money etc.
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They have been taking bookings and incurring man costs - Richardson publicly declared they were not entering administration a few weeks ago - all the indicators point one way and the funding - even it was ever really there - would not have covered all the increasing number of creditors
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,319
Surely they knew it was failing when they falsified evidence for the auditors?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,320
How long after administration do they put the creditor list on companies House?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,321
skybluetony176 said:
The transfer of ownership of the training ground is dodgy as… looks like asset stripping ahead of liquidation which as far as I understand is highly illegal.

Unless of course full market value was paid in exchange.
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It never owned the training ground - they will have been a supply and rental arrangement
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,322
Grendel said:
It never owned the training ground - they will have been a supply and rental arrangement
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I read something about a mansion next door but not sure who owns that either.
 
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dadgad

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,323
fernandopartridge said:
In fairness there are two BBCs really, the national news which is full of pro Tory editors and broadcasters and the local which still fulfils the public service remit.

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Yes, you could say that ‘local’ news plays lip service to the actual needs of society while the big hitters in London shore things up for the establishment.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,324
Grendel said:
They have been taking bookings and incurring man costs - Richardson publicly declared they were not entering administration a few weeks ago - all the indicators point one way and the funding - even it was ever really there - would not have covered all the increasing number of creditors
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If they were still actively exploring potential options/solutions/sale it’s unlikely the directors will be pulled up for continuing the past few weeks and months

I look back further though…was it ever truly viable ?!
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Oct 17, 2022
  • #3,325
AOM said:
Bagsy not being linesman
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I'll ref on Wednesday.......put a bet on a 9-0 home win with 8 penalties
 
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