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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (9 Viewers)

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Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,521
Sky Blue Pete said:
Could be better but they’re excuses not to go for me
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Wait, what?! So you don't go to games based on location of the Arena?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,522
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, what?! So you don't go to games based on location of the Arena?
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Assume he means not excuses not to go
 
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Astute

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,523
shmmeee said:
Occams Razor says that it’s what it looks like. Rumours we are close to admin, HMRC debts, club clearly in trouble financially. O’Hare fell through last minute so we’re double fucked. And Sisu have been telling everyone they only want the stadium in admin so why would their partner gazump them?
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Their partner gazump?

An agreement that a certain price would be paid for our club if the ground could be secured would be best for both sides.

Or do you suggest that SISU have the funding in place and would be willing to pay for the arena?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,524
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,525
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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Do you feel better now you’ve got that out your system?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,526
Thoughts? More important things than Ashley.

 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,527
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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Looks like the verbal version of this you doing OK?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,528
Skyblueweeman said:
Wait, what?! So you don't go to games based on location of the Arena?
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Obviously location will affect whether some go though. Extrapolate it and if we moved to Bolivia, and we'd have the hardcore complaining about others, saying it wasn't a tough journey to make and people should just suck it up, while SBAndy would be bitching that the flight left him in Bogota after its toilet stop.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,529
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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Have appreciated your input SB but tbf they're not facts.

No-one really knows what's happened/going to happen. Some will fear the worst, some will hope for the best. Standard for us Cov fans sadly!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 3, 2022
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MusicDating said:
Have appreciated your input SB but tbf they're not facts.

No-one really knows what's happened/going to happen. Some will fear the worst, some will hope for the best. Standard for us Cov fans sadly!
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What's also standard, tbf, is that those who fear the worst are more often the group who end up being right
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,531
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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Buuuuut, we still don't rent from Wasps.

Every cloud eh?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,532
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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Facts???
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,533
Nick said:
I haven't looked to be honest, maybe you can? I just provided information saying it is a common thing for businesses in the UK. Still, keep moving the goalposts.

Charity bet offer is still there though?
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I’m surprised that for such a common, standard procedure you can’t think of a single other football club that’s had this problem. But if you’re jonesing for a charity bet, how about £200 that at least two other Chanpionship clubs will go under a transfer embargo for the same HRMC issue by the end of the season? I bet they won’t, but if it’s so common and standard, surely you’d be crazy not to take me up on it?
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,534
Skyblueweeman said:
Answer me this - not being local. People moan about the location of the Arena - out of town hard to get to. Isn't Warwick Uni going to be the same?

Genuine question as I don't know the area.
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Don’t know where you live but think of what is your most leafy, sedate area with plenty of large and million pound houses there and only a couple of access roads to it that sums up most of the Uni area can you really see any chance of a 25k+ stadium being allowed to be built there, I know locals there complain now about the continued expansion of the university now, compare that to where the CBS is in an industrial area with decent road and motorway systems.
Leaving HR was a terrible mistake but we now have what we have there might be one or two areas more central than the Uni that could be used but probably never will.
 
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rexo87

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,535
David O'Day said:
wtf?

bloke was telling people both the last 2 games wouldn't be at the cbs

he's a chancer
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he didnt, he told people it was in doubt. He's also got team news spot on with lots of changes hours before official
 
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shepardo01

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,536
Interesting.....
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,537
slowpoke said:
but think of what is your most leafy, sedate area with plenty of large and million pound houses there and only a couple of access roads to it that sums up most of the Uni area
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Canley's changed since my day!!
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,538
JAM See said:
You fucker Otis.

Just wasted a load of time plowing through the archive. Up to date now though. Thank fuck!
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I didn't realise there was an archive. You've just killed my day.
 
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Astute

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,539
SBT said:
For the same reasons the NEC wanted to?
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So someone with experience with running football clubs would want a football ground and not the football club so they could do the same as someone else who didn't make a serious bid?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,540
SBT said:
I’m surprised that for such a common, standard procedure you can’t think of a single other football club that’s had this problem. But if you’re jonesing for a charity bet, how about £200 that at least two other Chanpionship clubs will go under a transfer embargo for the same HRMC issue by the end of the season? I bet they won’t, but if it’s so common and standard, surely you’d be crazy not to take me up on it?
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I have literally provided a link from accountants saying it's common in the UK

My exact words on the thread were:

Nobody has said everything is ok, they have said that this issue isn't a massive issue.
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Keep trying to spin stuff though. It's no wonder you always jump in to defend shit journalism.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,541
Skyblueweeman said:
Answer me this - not being local. People moan about the location of the Arena - out of town hard to get to. Isn't Warwick Uni going to be the same?

Genuine question as I don't know the area.
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The CBS although out on the edge of the city has Foleshill Rd and Holbrooks nearby which does feel working class with pubs, social clubs and takeaways and is easier for Nuneaton and Bedworth fans to get too, the Warwick Uni site isn't even devolved yet and is in the countryside looking at plans. Not much there for your traditional football fan.
 
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MusicDating

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,542
Deleted member 5849 said:
What's also standard, tbf, is that those who fear the worst are more often the group who end up being right
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Whilst that is true, there have been plenty of 'SISU will put us in admin/liquidate', 'Robins will walk' doomsayers who haven't been (yet obvs.... )
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,543
OK so is he referring to the Dawkins American bloke wanting to take both?
SISU's Investors and the 51% thing (if they are different to the above bloke).
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,544
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Thoughts? More important things than Ashley.

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The worst of all the selection boxes, the staple of fly-by-night merchants and shit houses. Removing the Bounty from it is like polishing a turd.

Otherwise, no strong feelings either way.
 
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Astute

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,545
Saddlebrains said:
Loads of whataboutery on here now

Facts are

Ashley is probably going to get the stadium. Doesn't want us.

Sisu have again fucked it by trying to be too cute even though they actually had some added investment from a partner ready to go.

Council have been nudging things in the direction they want. If people don think they aere ACL's string puller I don't know what to say

So as it stands we will still be tenants, still at the whim of a knobhead stadium owner and still run by shitcunts wihtout a pot to piss in and wont invest a penny, not even to pay for a pitch or tax bill.


Best we can hope for under this is a Peterborough/ Rotherham style yoyo L1 CHampionship club
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So what fact do you know about Ashley not wanting our football club?

I fully agree about the CCC part. So why would SISU or Ashley make some sort of comment that they don't have to?
 
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Calista

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,546
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Whoever submits Post 10.000 on this thread wins a signed. once=worn Joy Sepalla thong and a free flight on Mike Ashley's chopper (the winner must agree to not place for resale on Ebay)
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When we get to 9,999 we should all just stand aside and let Hill post a suitable ‘chopper’ GIF
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,547
Sky Blue Pete said:
Could be better but they’re excuses not to go for me
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Well it is a whole 4 miles from the Centre of the city.
Warwick uni site is only 3.9 miles.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,548
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Whoever submits Post 10.000 on this thread wins a signed. once=worn Joy Sepalla thong and a free flight on Mike Ashley's chopper (the winner must agree to not place for resale on Ebay)
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Don't make me lock the thread so only I can post
 
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Ccfcsj

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,549
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Thoughts? More important things than Ashley.

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Not happy - bounty is the one of the best parts of these - along with the Snickers. The rest are average at best
 
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Telfer85

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,550
shepardo01 said:
Interesting.....
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Saw this earlier it doesn’t matter now really though does it? Unless Ashley pulls out which I can’t see him doing he’s the only one they will consider for the stadium. Surely no one in their right mind would buy us without the ground so I don’t see a positive out of this interest.

Difficult to see much change really now at least in the short term.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,551
So are they now saying that Mike Ashley wasn't the only interest but he's been chosen as the "preferred" bidder by the Council / ACL?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,552
Unless Mike Ashley
Nick said:
So are they now saying that Mike Ashley wasn't the only interest but he's been chosen as the "preferred" bidder by the Council / ACL?
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hes the only bidder. There was clearly interest but most were awaiting admin
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,553
rexo87 said:
he didnt, he told people it was in doubt. He's also got team news spot on with lots of changes hours before official
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he was wrong twice, if that is itk then god help us

he's playing with mugs like you for attention
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 3, 2022
  • #9,554
Nick said:
So are they now saying that Mike Ashley wasn't the only interest but he's been chosen as the "preferred" bidder by the Council / ACL?
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Not sure what the problem is? ACL will want the best price for the assets and the council will want an offer that protects jobs as far as possible
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 3, 2022
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Is there a potential that Ashley sees a quick flip?
if he gets the arena at a nominal figure, he’s cleared the debt, and can sell the arena off for more than he paid?
 
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