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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (14 Viewers)

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slowpoke

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,611
olderskyblue said:
Ashley here, as is Warren Barton. Photographers in the lounges too
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Who owns Del Mar Carmal Valley Sharks of San Diego California.
Warren Barton is a coach there, where is that American McEvoy from ?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,612
The Philosopher said:
He’s gone apparently.
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Ashley already tearing apart the identity of the club.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,613
slowpoke said:
Who owns Del Mar Carmal Valley Sharks of San Diego California.
Warren Barton is a coach there, where is that American McEvoy from ?
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McEvoy? He’s from America.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,614
AFCCOVENTRY said:
We have been getting vibes for a while that Sisu are wanting out. Hence the likes of Simon Jordan (albeit maybe for publicity) said the club is available but there’s too many moving parts to bring it together. Only someone with real wonga can do that. Ashley has been looking for a way back into football and at the same time wanting to base his Fraser Group operations in the midlands.
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Someone mentioned the money he got selling Newcastle hasn't been taxed on yet and he has so many months to reinvest before it becomes taxable, which maybe why he's buying the stadium
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,615
Nick said:
So people saying they saw him at the game but any pics?
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Reported by Gilbert late on CWR, when announcing ACL admin that it "was a lookalike"....
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,616
Poor pilot the last couple of days been running here there and everywhere..
About six run's a day picking up lawyers, financiers from different London locations
Secret meetings down in Devon with Richardson to get away from the ears.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,617
Robins said something which I'm not sure many have picked up on. He said something along the lines of hoping to be at the CBS for the next couple of games, and then really get things sorted out during/after the World Cup break...

I suppose that could mean anything from a sale of the club during that time, or just a delayed process so SISU have time to sell all our best players in the January transfer window as well as taking 20 million for the club and fucking off once that's done. Could even mean Joy dressed as a slutty secret santa.

...and we're all mad here.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,619
Simon Gilbert adamant that Mike Ashley hasn’t been in touch with SISU. I wonder if SISU are watching from the sidelines thinking WTF is going on like the rest of us. Joy checking her phone every couple of minutes to see if she’s had a missed call from Mike Ashley.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,620
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Robins said something which I'm not sure many have picked up on. He said something along the lines of hoping to be at the CBS for the next couple of games, and then really get things sorted out during/after the World Cup break...

I suppose that could mean anything from a sale of the club during that time, or just a delayed process so SISU have time to sell all our best players in the January transfer window as well as taking 20 million for the club and fucking off once that's done. Could even mean Joy dressed as a slutty secret santa.

...and we're all mad here.
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Or could just be that’s how long it’ll take for the new owner to take over, whoever it is.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,621
Frankly_Mr_Shankly said:
Yes, I seen Ashley at the game today.
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Was Steve Bruce with him?
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,622
The Philosopher said:
McEvoy? He’s from America.
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And Warren Barton works there, San Diego. Perhaps he was just passing.
 

SHUNT31

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,623
Gynnsthetonic said:
Someone mentioned the money he got selling Newcastle hasn't been taxed on yet and he has so many months to reinvest before it becomes taxable, which maybe why he's buying the stadium
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He will have deferred any gains which has a time limit, so could be plausible.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,624
Liquid Gold said:
I reckon the going rate for a championship club would be about £50m.

If he’s paid £30m for ACL and offered £20m to sisu that’s will do for both and be a standard purchase price.
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I don’t know. I think SISU will hold out for a lot more.

It gives an ember of credence to them (SISU) being 49%. It’ll be a debt park. They’ll collect 6-7% annual or whatever to satisfy their hedge fund portfolio with a buy out option at their balance sheet stake (£60m - guess). They can’t crystallise for less than their debt - they are a hedge fund.

Some kind of sale mechanism on Prem promotion.
 

Frankly_Mr_Shankly

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,625
no_loyalty said:
Was Steve Bruce with him?
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Nope, Boddy was
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,626
WTF?

Hate to say it, but if Ashley hasn’t even spoken to Sisu, there’s not much chance he’s interested in the club at all.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,627
Frankly_Mr_Shankly said:
Nope, Boddy was
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No, Boddy was sounds better
 
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steve cooper

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,628
I'm not sure I understand how he can be certain of that. Is it likely to be made public?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,629
shmmeee said:
WTF?

Hate to say it, but if Ashley hasn’t even spoken to Sisu, there’s not much chance he’s interested in the club at all.
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I just don’t believe it.

Sisu being on mega airplane mode is one of the most telling things to me.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,630
Frankly_Mr_Shankly said:
Nope, Boddy was
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I’m going to have to see a picture before I start buying this.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,631
skybluetony176 said:
Simon Gilbert adamant that Mike Ashley hasn’t been in touch with SISU. I wonder if SISU are watching from the sidelines thinking WTF is going on like the rest of us. Joy checking her phone every couple of minutes to see if she’s had a missed call from Mike Ashley.
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How would Gilbert know, things do go on behind closed doors.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,632
shmmeee said:
WTF?

Hate to say it, but if Ashley hasn’t even spoken to Sisu, there’s not much chance he’s interested in the club at all.
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Bet he has no idea who they are
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,633
Just saying, once you add up that, the Keys comment and the Telegraph article it very much looks like he just wants the stadium.
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,634
The Philosopher said:
I don’t know. I think SISU will hold out for a lot more.

It gives an ember of credence to them (SISU) being 49%. It’ll be a debt park. They’ll collect 6-7% annual or whatever to satisfy their hedge fund portfolio with a buy out option at their balance sheet stake (£60m - guess). They can’t crystallise for less than their debt - they are a hedge fund.

Some kind of sale mechanism on Prem promotion.
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That could happen though, there have been loads of rumours one with sisu linking up with an investor on a 51%/49% basis. I hope the investor is Elon Musk
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,635
shmmeee said:
Just saying, once you add up that, the Keys comment and the Telegraph article it very much looks like he just wants the stadium.
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Just can't see it, he'll likes the limelight and he likes to be seen, he'll be wanting to get on match of the day and sky super sunday
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,636
Look. can anyone confirm I will be getting my £100K of bond money back or not?

Those boot cut jeans and brogues won't buy themselves.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,637
More bad news for Fletcher.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,638
shmmeee said:
Just saying, once you add up that, the Keys comment and the Telegraph article it very much looks like he just wants the stadium.
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Why though? As far as I know he’s never done events companies before.

He likes being a football club owner. Tried to get in on one earlier in the year.

Just don’t see a play on the stadium and not the club from him at all.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,639
shmmeee said:
Just saying, once you add up that, the Keys comment and the Telegraph article it very much looks like he just wants the stadium.
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Can't quite work out why though. The Telegraph article mentions waffle about him liking to gamble at casinos and how that might be why he wants it.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,640
Yup, sorry to say it really does just look like he’s in it to buy the CBS, the football club just doesn’t seem to be on the radar.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,641
JAM See said:
Look. can anyone confirm I will be getting my £100K of bond money back or not?
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Sure, have you sent the processing fee to Derek Richardson to release the funds?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,642
shmmeee said:
Just saying, once you add up that, the Keys comment and the Telegraph article it very much looks like he just wants the stadium.
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Well I guess there’s no point negotiating for anything else until you’ve got the main prize sorted. Would be odd to try and set up other businesses here and say you want to get back into football and then not even consider buying the club, but agree it’s hard to square the circle
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,643
JAM See said:
Look. can anyone confirm I will be getting my £100K of bond money back or not?

Those boot cut jeans and brogues won't buy themselves.
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I know Richardson is a scumbag and all but all the people that funded him and wasps losing out too would be perfect.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,644
Liquid Gold said:
Why though? As far as I know he’s never done events companies before.

He likes being a football club owner. Tried to get in on one earlier in the year.

Just don’t see a play on the stadium and not the club from him at all.
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Just saying you’d expect some contact before steaming in to buy it if that was the plan. After all we heard when he was interested in Wasps.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,645
shmmeee said:


Just saying you’d expect some contact before steaming in to buy it if that was the plan. After all we heard when he was interested in Wasps.
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I think the contact has been made but they are tight lipped af on it. Maybe a non-disclosure or something.
 
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