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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (9 Viewers)

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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,111
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I imagine that compass are going to be members of a large group that are going to be pretty disappointed
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Delware North even more so !
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,112
Not sure about NEC or alike as to whether they need it

A lot of the Birmingham site is underutilized

Consolidate Coventry shows into Birmingham site.

What about the bowl ,well Fairweather concerts,or collect rent from sport.
Not sure I see it myself.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,113
Nick said:
Where does this all leave Higgs?

Yeah they got paid but what about all the promises and the ongoing stuff?

Good job they have a family of lawyers.
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So after all the outrage…. A charity has been screwed over by wasps
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,114
oldskyblue58 said:
Sisu have maintained they won't be there in 8 years
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This is a major problem, isn't it. I know I keep banging on about the fantasy stadium, but where is the incentive to even try and do a deal with SISU, as long as they pursue their folly?
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,115
oldfiver said:
Delaware North are not doing very well out of the Arena - and they are major operators
Compass are also still owed x£millions
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where does IEC EXPERIENCE LIMITED fall in this. Eastwoods company that does catering. Do they just outsource it to Delaware
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,116
Deleted member 5849 said:
This is a major problem, isn't it. I know I keep banging on about the fantasy stadium, but where is the incentive to even try and do a deal with SISU, as long as they pursue their folly?
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Is it a major problem unless you actually believe it? This is Sepallas chance, if she wants the stadium then make a move.

If she doesn't then we need a longer term deal at the CBS and the hope would be that under totally new ownership a line could be drawn under all the shit that's gone on in the past and a mutually beneficial deal agreed.

Of course if she does want the stadium this plays to her advantage. No doubt any prospective owner will speak to the club about their long term plans before putting a bid in. She can maintain we're moving to potential buyers knowing full well we aren't and that will have an impact on any offer they make, or if they even make an offer.
 
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tisza

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,117
Gynnsthetonic said:
That surely cannot happen and would be illegal, you can't rack up £115m debts and then just carry on as if nothing has happened, Richardson should be banned from becoming a director same as the Worcester two are
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Not sure it would be illegal.Might be dubious but (unless Richardson was personally bankrupt or facing some sort of criminal allegation) wouldn't disqualify him trying to get the business back through a new entity.
These people set themselves up to be able to do just this.
Remember some fans thought SISU could be gone when we were in administration but they'd just moved things around to clear some debt and put themselves in position to be the only option to carry on as owners.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,118
chiefdave said:
Is it a major problem unless you actually believe it?
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Well SISU say it. SISU say they have no interest in the arena. The responsibility is with them, as they're the ones who've distanced themselves.

It's their culpability.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,119
Deleted member 5849 said:
This is a major problem, isn't it. I know I keep banging on about the fantasy stadium, but where is the incentive to even try and do a deal with SISU, as long as they pursue their folly?
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I’m confident they could decide not to go ahead with their folly…..

of course, it would cost them, what with all the land they bought and all the building work done to date...
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,120
Grendel said:
Who pays for the catering, staff, maintenance, policing, parking attendants, electricity for lighting, heating etc?
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It’s worrying and very little seems to have been said beyond a vague commitment to keep the club playing there.
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,121
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That would be disappointing if the bond holders lose out.

To be honest I'm so sick of Coventry I will have no sympathy if things went belly up for CCFC"

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I could care not a fig if CCFC have anywhere to play or not. The modern 'fans' disgust me, as do their owners, SISU."

Its all our fault now

edit and covid

"But on day 1000 (approx) along came Covid with national lock downs and either no games or games played in empty stadia; no concerts, no conferences, hotel and casino empty, no other events, in fact no multiple income streams at all. The global pandemic, the biggest and most severe pandemic for 100 years had no influence on Derek's business at all. The RFU and PRL can kiss my arse."
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,122
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well SISU say it. SISU say they have no interest in the arena. The responsibility is with them, as they're the ones who've distanced themselves.

It's their culpability.
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What about others who have distanced themselves from it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,123
The thing is, they really can't see Richardson being at fault in all of this
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,124
wingy said:
Not sure about NEC or alike as to whether they need it

A lot of the Birmingham site is underutilized

Consolidate Coventry shows into Birmingham site.

What about the bowl ,well Fairweather concerts,or collect rent from sport.
Not sure I see it myself.
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And do not forget

Aston Villa Football Club | The official club website | AVFC

Welcome to avfc.co.uk, the official website for Aston Villa Football Club
www.avfc.co.uk
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,125
I think our fans need to prepare themselves that if something happens and we can continue to play at the arena. There wont be any food and drink and limited staff for parking and so on.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,126
jordan210 said:
I think our fans need to prepare themselves that if something happens and we can continue to play at the arena. There wont be any food and drink and limited staff for parking and so on.
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Not really the end of the world.

The thing with that is, they should allow some food vans on and problem solved.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,127
Remember George said yes on the email.
What that was to who knows.
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,128
Nick said:
Not really the end of the world.

The thing with that is, they should allow some food vans on and problem solved.
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Problem Is we do have serial moaners in our fan base. But could easily get some outside vendors and have beer tents and so on outside.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,129
Aren’t there food and beer things outside already?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,130
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Aren’t there food and beer things outside already?
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£6 for a burger, £5.50 for a pint of flat piss
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,131
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Aren’t there food and beer things outside already?
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Duno. There is a coffee taxi thing.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,132
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Aren’t there food and beer things outside already?
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Think there's a bar but not sure about food.

Just mean if it's an issue of having it, pretty sure the administrator could sell a few pitches to local businesses who would jump at the chance.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,133
Nick said:
Think there's a bar but not sure about food.

Just mean if it's an issue of having it, pretty sure the administrator could sell a few pitches to local businesses who would jump at the chance.
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Italia?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,134
Samo said:
I don't really get why the NEC would want another gaff a stone's throw from their own. If it were in a different part of the country, I could understand the interest.
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Its gonna be there anyway and offers something a little different to the NEC itself. Close enough to share branding. Plus tons of potential for developing the other things around like they have with Resorts World and the NEC.

I could see why they’d be interested.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,135
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think he was having some interesting conversations at Stoke train station at the weekend. And not just about the suspicious floaters in the gents
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Clearly not interesting enough for you to tell us what they are
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,136
shmmeee said:
Clearly not interesting enough for you to tell us what they are
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,137
Brighton Sky Blue said:
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If he was spouting off to fans at a train station I’d only see any expectation of privacy. Just saying.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,138
shmmeee said:
If he was spouting off to fans at a train station I’d only see any expectation of privacy. Just saying.
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PM'd
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,139
shmmeee said:
Its gonna be there anyway and offers something a little different to the NEC itself. Close enough to share branding. Plus tons of potential for developing the other things around like they have with Resorts World and the NEC.

I could see why they’d be interested.
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Not as well as:

NEC Campus Redevelopment, Birmingham, UK

NEC Campus redevelopment project will involve the conversion of surface-level car parking and excess land to deliver a mixed-used location.
www.designbuild-network.com
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,140
oldfiver said:
Not as well as:

NEC Campus Redevelopment, Birmingham, UK

NEC Campus redevelopment project will involve the conversion of surface-level car parking and excess land to deliver a mixed-used location.
www.designbuild-network.com
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Im going to take a wild guess that the NEC know their business better than some random forumites. By all accounts they’re one of the more serious sources of interest so clearly they see something in it.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,141
shmmeee said:
Im going to take a wild guess that the NEC know their business better than some random forumites. By all accounts they’re one of the more serious sources of interest so clearly they see something in it.
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By "all accounts" ?
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,142
Come on then, what was Timmy saying at Stoke?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,143
oldfiver said:
By "all accounts" ?
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Gilbert, the council, the media generally. It’s been the only one mentioned really. The Dawkins thing and Sisu not so much. Not paying attention but it seems Wasps revival has fallen on its arse.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,144
SkyBlueScottie said:
Come on then, what was Timmy saying at Stoke?
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Tim’s resurfaced? What bollocks is he coming out with now
 
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steve cooper

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #5,145
Not sure if this has already been posted, but according to a 2 week old report attributed to Sky, NEC has already made a bid. Clearly not enough.

NEC lodges bid to buy CBS Arena | TheBusinessDesk.com

Reports suggest that the exhibition venue giant wants to take over the stadium
www.thebusinessdesk.com
 
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