Gynnsthetonic

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They keep mentioning selling the stadium for a knock down £28m, who though will pay that for it, its back to where we were before, its worthless!
 

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What happens now then, they just keep hold of £35m and do nothing and it all gets brushed under the carpet
 

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All the statements are still available on various investor sites, perhaps they have removed it and from the offal so that lazy Wasps fans don’t stumble across it on their website by accident.
 

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All the statements are still available on various investor sites, perhaps they have removed it and from the offal so that lazy Wasps fans don’t stumble across it on their website by accident.
Just going by Drunken Wasp site from Kentwasp1
 

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I think the question a lot of bondholders should be asking is; when are they going to get their investment back, and not just the interest on their investment?
 

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Months ago they were releasing statements saying similar, what makes anyone owned money think things will be different this tie round? Reads to me as more stalling and hoping the bond holders will just sit on their hands and do nothing while not getting their money back on some vague promise better times lie ahead.
 
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Months ago they were releasing statements saying similar, what makes anyone owned money think things will be different this tie round? Reads to me as more stalling and hoping the bond holders will just sit on their hands and do nothing while not getting their money back on some vague promise better times lie ahead.
I'd imagine they've come out with this statement because they know the bondholders are gathering force and want to halt their proceedings against Wasp to cash in on the bond at a reduced rate meaning bye bye Wasp
 

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I thought they where all ready at advance stages with HSBC about 6 months ago.....

I bet the 6.5% they have to pay bond holders is a damn site cheaper than what they have been offered elsewhere to cover the bond
 

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I thought they where all ready at advance stages with HSBC about 6 months ago.....

I bet the 6.5% they have to pay bond holders is a damn site cheaper than what they have been offered elsewhere to cover the bond
All in place ready to go according to Shugs 🤣
 

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Despite what that Dawkins chappie is saying on Twitter he hasn’t or didn’t have anything new to unveil. The statement is re worded from the last and significantly doesn’t say any time frame for repayment.

It’s a reworded holding statement that’s meaningless in all entirely.
 

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I bet the 6.5% they have to pay bond holders is a damn site cheaper than what they have been offered elsewhere to cover the bond

Definitely. They were probably looking at realistic rates of 9-13% at the start of this year. Now probably getting to 15% with Base Rate and LIBOR changes.
 

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given they have had years with essentially an interest only loan, and even to meet the payments on that they had to borrow enough to ring fence money for the interest payments, how on bath are they going to service a loan at a higher interest rate moving forward?

I don't see any business plan that is going to give them that kind of turn around, it will need millions a year and they need to generate millions more a year just to break even.

Am I missing something as their supporters seem to be in celebratory mode but is this not just delaying the inevitable?
 

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given they have had years with essentially an interest only loan, and even to meet the payments on that they had to borrow enough to ring fence money for the interest payments, how on bath are they going to service a loan at a higher interest rate moving forward?

I don't see any business plan that is going to give them that kind of turn around, it will need millions a year and they need to generate millions more a year just to break even.

Am I missing something as their supporters seem to be in celebratory mode but is this not just delaying the inevitable?

If they are really looking to borrow and have any chance of achieving it you’d assume it’s over much longer - 25 or even 40 years with the head lease signed over if it defaults
 

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40 years at 12% would be £4 million a year
 
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given they have had years with essentially an interest only loan, and even to meet the payments on that they had to borrow enough to ring fence money for the interest payments, how on bath are they going to service a loan at a higher interest rate moving forward?

I don't see any business plan that is going to give them that kind of turn around, it will need millions a year and they need to generate millions more a year just to break even.

Am I missing something as their supporters seem to be in celebratory mode but is this not just delaying the inevitable?
Reading the wasps bond site they don’t believe wasps and think there in worse position as they have no timeline of payment at all.

Nothing to see here as the situation is still the same prior to the ‘statement’. It’s like going to one of those loan sharks at unpayable interest rate.

It’ll catch up eventually even if they do refinance the loan.
 

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This has got to be the worst possible time to refinance with interest rates skyrocketing.
 

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