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Nick

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,611
The other people are going back in for planning!
 

clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,612
CCFC54321 said:
George Duggins I thought he was standing down? What will Wasps do if he stands down!!!!!
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another compliant fuckwit will be along to take his place don't worry about that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,613
Nick said:
The other people are going back in for planning!
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the council 'misapplied policy' in it's first refusal!
Sounds like dim Jim O'Boyle is going a little off message as well.
 
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djbooth

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,614
Has anyone written to these guys. https://www.lgo.org.uk/

I
t would be better if it was from a business and and residents affected by the hotel and raises the point that other hotels have been denied permission from the council due to reason xxxx
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,615
clint van damme said:
the council 'misapplied policy' in it's first refusal!
Sounds like dim Jim O'Boyle is going a little off message as well.
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Interesting how the Wasps one is always accompanied by statements bugging it up from the council bums.

It is going to get tricky for them now if they approve Wasps.

Their fans already think everything is OK because of some pictures in the paper.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,616
clint van damme said:
the council 'misapplied policy' in it's first refusal!
Sounds like dim Jim O'Boyle is going a little off message as well.
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What's that?

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Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,617
fernandopartridge said:
What's that?

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“The NPPF (National Planning Policy Framework) is clear that a planning application should only be refused on impact grounds if a proposal is likely to have a significantly adverse impact on either town centre vitality or viability or investment in that centre.

“This is clearly not the case here and therefore there is no retail impact reason why the current proposal should not be allowed.”


The applicant said the scheme will make use of an “underused brownfield site”, provide “significant” employment, and generate £4.9m in ‘economic output’ for the area.
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This bit?
 

clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,618
fernandopartridge said:
What's that?

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the first line is a quote from the company wanting to build the other hotel.
O'Boyle seems to be banging the drum for their hotel to be built, be interesting to see how this re-submission to get on.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,619
Nick said:
Interesting how the Wasps one is always accompanied by statements bugging it up from the council bums.

It is going to get tricky for them now if they approve Wasps.

Their fans already think everything is OK because of some pictures in the paper.
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that's my reading of it, they're either both goers or both get refused. I can't see how it can be one or the other.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,620
clint van damme said:
that's my reading of it, they're either both goers or both get refused. I can't see how it can be one or the other.
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The telling bit is that this application says it will be ready in time for City of Culture as well.

Some quotes from Wasps fans

Wasps have an excellent relationship with the City Council so I cant see there being any delays.

This is good news for the city and the City Council as it will increase the number of visitors to the area and their spending.

The City Council will do whatever they can to ensure the success of the Ricoh.
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As there's as big need to get the economy going and growing over the next few years lets hope it doesn't get bogged down in petty planning arguments and objections.
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I have a feeling that the financials within Wasps are not as gloomy as some might think. The 2 nd hotel has been talked about for a few months. A very positive move.
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clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,621
Nick said:
The telling bit is that this application says it will be ready in time for City of Culture as well.

Some quotes from Wasps fans
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got to be honest, I think it's a shit location, especially for more than one hotel but I thought Premier were making a mistake opening the one at the Butts and it's always pretty full so what do I know.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,622
clint van damme said:
got to be honest, I think it's a shit location, especially for more than one hotel but I thought Premier were making a mistake opening the one at the Butts and it's always pretty full so what do I know.
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I don't exactly know where this one is, I think it is the blokes who own the scrap yard? Used to love going down there back in the day to find bits for my car, health and safety didn't exist.

There is also the Novotel just down the road, is that fully booked all year round?
 

clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,623
Nick said:
I don't exactly know where this one is, I think it is the blokes who own the scrap yard? Used to love going down there back in the day to find bits for my car, health and safety didn't exist.

There is also the Novotel just down the road, is that fully booked all year round?
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no idea how the Novotel does.
I'm on a booking app and when I log on for some reason it gives me details of the hotels nearest to me of which the Butts Premier is one.
 

Grendel

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,624
clint van damme said:
the first line is a quote from the company wanting to build the other hotel.
O'Boyle seems to be banging the drum for their hotel to be built, be interesting to see how this re-submission to get on.
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It was the same council officer for both applications which looks a bit embarrassing- the council will I suspect use special powers to push the wasps application through without a formal sitting using the pandemic as the reason - they have form

Coronavirus: Coventry council accused of using pandemic to approve homes without consulting residents
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,625
Grendel said:
It was the same council officer for both applications which looks a bit embarrassing- the council will I suspect use special powers to push the wasps application through without a formal sitting using the pandemic as the reason - they have form

Coronavirus: Coventry council accused of using pandemic to approve homes without consulting residents
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Didnt they use the same powers to stop the original application from going to a panel as well? Basically just an individual saying no.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,626
Using a brownfield site which gets rid of the eyesore scrap yard and adding parking rather than reducing and also ready quickly, I can’t see how they can reject it oh it goes against wasps so get the shredder ready.
 

jordan210

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,627
Has anyone got a copy of the two hotel plans. As I cant see them on CCC website
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,628
I can remember seeing them on the planning portal but no idea how I found them!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,629
This is the original one rejected : Coventry City Council: Planning Application Details
This is the one from this year: Coventry City Council: Planning Application Details

This is the decision to reject it : http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=1507407
 
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jordan210

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,630
Nick said:
This is the original one rejected : Coventry City Council: Planning Application Details
This is the one from this year: Coventry City Council: Planning Application Details

This is the decision to reject it : http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=1507407
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Thanks. Have you found wasps ones ?
 

shepardo01

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,631
jordan210 said:
Thanks. Have you found wasps ones ?
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They just exist as a verbal ask from Wasps.
"George, can we stick up a hotel"
"Yeah, no worries, need anything, just ask... even a few million grant, just say it's for "repairs")

There you go...
 
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ccfcchris

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  • May 8, 2020
  • #1,632
Nick said:
The other people are going back in for planning!
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This could get interesting
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,633
Wasps haven't got an investor have they? They're not going to get one either and as for the ready for 2021


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covcity4life

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,634
Hopefully they run out of money mid build and ccfc step in and finish it off thrn chsrge rent lol
 

covcity4life

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,635
How csn they afford hotel tho? I hopr their financial situation isnt better than expected
 

Grendel

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,636
fernandopartridge said:
Wasps haven't got an investor have they? They're not going to get one either and as for the ready for 2021


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That’s what makes no sense. Getting permission is one thing building it another. Their lunatic fringe seem to believe that it’s a sign they have money as they are going to build it themselves!
 

Grendel

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,637
Good old Steve from Cov

Wasps owners unveil plans for hotel outside the Ricoh
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,638
Grendel said:
Good old Steve from Cov

Wasps owners unveil plans for hotel outside the Ricoh
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The delusion is funny
 
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CCFC54321

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,639
Grendel said:
Good old Steve from Cov

Wasps owners unveil plans for hotel outside the Ricoh
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Loved the bit “I put another £25k into the bonds.”

Yeah of course you did you bare faced pathological liar!
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,640
CCFC54321 said:
Loved the bit “I put another £25k into the bonds.”

Yeah of course you did you bare faced pathological liar!
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In what way are wasps bonds attractive to an investor, particularly at the moment? He's either a fantasist or a cretin.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,641
CCFC54321 said:
Loved the bit “I put another £25k into the bonds.”

Yeah of course you did you bare faced pathological liar!
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Obviously just one of those accounts to make out everything is rosy.
 

jordan210

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,642
CCFC54321 said:
Loved the bit “I put another £25k into the bonds.”

Yeah of course you did you bare faced pathological liar!
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Why would you invest in bonds that isn't relevant to the hotel.

I know we have some deluded fans but they have a lot more.


Has anyone seen the training ground application amount of objections

Around about 165 comments with less than 5 on wasps side (with most being from out of area people)

I don't think the public option of wasps is positive as some would think

My other half pointed out (from a FB message) that the application has gone live. It is apparently attracting the normal vitriol associated with anything "Wasps". She noted from the FB comment that supporters can also voice their support. Anyone able to get the link?
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So have wasps been telling fans to support the application.
 
Last edited: May 9, 2020

clint van damme

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,643
jordan210 said:
Why would you invest in bonds that isn't relevant to the hotel.
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Think his logic is it shows Robinson is there for the long haul. Not sure why that would convince you to invest 25 grand though.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,644
clint van damme said:
Think his logic is it shows Robinson is there for the long haul. Not sure why that would convince you to invest 25 grand though.
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A sound investment that are back by the arena they don’t actually own.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 9, 2020
  • #1,645
Just artists' impressions at the moment. So it all looks rosey.
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