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Kneeza

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  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #5,881
Gynnsthetonic said:
Is the 12th August still being applied for the refinancing or has that been written off. Wasps releasing all their top players end of the season, no new signings and now no money being spent on the pitch and the total silence from them something definitely happening. Or with no relegation they could play every game with youth players and lose 60-0 and do the same next season.
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They really haven't released all their top players. They still have an impressive pack with the likes of the Willis brothers, Barbeary and others, and new tight-five signings Koch and Ryan will both be on top dollar.
How they intend to pay them though is another matter.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 7, 2022
  • #5,882
Think they live in a different planet.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,883
Liquid Gold said:
Lists a bunch of forms of protest and then says

”Some views there which would get the support of certain Russian or Chinese government autocrats!”

I think they’ll never get more idiotic but they keep finding another level.
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Intimate local people?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,884
Kneeza said:
They really haven't released all their top players. They still have an impressive pack with the likes of the Willis brothers, Barbeary and others, and new tight-five signings Koch and Ryan will both be on top dollar.
How they intend to pay them though is another matter.
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Wasps confirms 11 departures with over £1m of stars leaving the club - Ruck

Premiership side Wasps have confirmed that 11 players will be leaving the Club at the end of the current season.
www.ruck.co.uk
 

Kneeza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,885
oldfiver said:

Wasps confirms 11 departures with over £1m of stars leaving the club - Ruck

Premiership side Wasps have confirmed that 11 players will be leaving the Club at the end of the current season.
www.ruck.co.uk
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Yes, I know about all those, and yes there are some bigger names, but also some 'squad' men too. Most sides lose players, even Genge at Leicester, and Koch at Sarries - top end clubs and players.
Wasps will still have an impressive pack overall.
(Did I really have to emphasise the word 'all'?).
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,886
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
In recent times?
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This year. Birmingham connections
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,887
oldfiver said:
This year. Birmingham connections
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,888
oldfiver said:
This year. Birmingham connections
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Do you know how well they went?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,889
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Do you know how well they went?
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Not recently- heard nothing. I suppose too much else going on

I
 
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oldfiver

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,890
Liquid Gold said:
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Don't tell everyone!
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,891
Apart from Shugs, the others definitely sticking the boot in, Shugs just blames covid and thinks everything will be OK next year
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,892
Kneeza said:
They really haven't released all their top players. They still have an impressive pack with the likes of the Willis brothers, Barbeary and others, and new tight-five signings Koch and Ryan will both be on top dollar.
How they intend to pay them though is another matter.
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No new kit released, car parking not for sale for home games still.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #5,893
Gynnsthetonic said:
Apart from Shugs, the others definitely sticking the boot in, Shugs just blames covid and thinks everything will be OK next year
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He has said all be well in a few weeks.
 
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Kneeza

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  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #5,894
Gynnsthetonic said:
No new kit released, car parking not for sale for home games still.
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Yes, yes I know. I'm not defending them!
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #5,895
When Bobby Bridge is writing articles like this you know things are badly wrong

Wasps fans claim they're 'left in dark' and ask club for answers

The Gallagher Premiership club has endured a turbulent summer
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #5,896
chiefdave said:
When Bobby Bridge is writing articles like this you know things are badly wrong

Wasps fans claim they're 'left in dark' and ask club for answers

The Gallagher Premiership club has endured a turbulent summer
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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Yup, when the opposite of what you're writing is the actual story, it might be time to flip flop!
 

Kneeza

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  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #5,897
Word is that they've filed for insolvency.
Whatever that means.
My source is generally reliable, but don't let that excite you too much just yet.
 
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Kneeza

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  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #5,898

Who knows?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,899
Kneeza said:
Word is that they've filed for insolvency.
Whatever that means.
My source is generally reliable, but don't let that excite you too much just yet.
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Proof...

Local Events | Arena Shopping Centre Coventry

Find out what events and fixtures are happening at and around Arena Shopping Centre Coventry.
www.arenashopping.com
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,900
Just a bit of light reading:

Insolvency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,901
Drunken Wasps doing a poll on attendance for first game.

DrunkenWasps.com - Wasps

DrunkenWasps.com : Unofficial Wasps news, views and message boards.
www.rugbynetwork.net

Surely even they will get more than 15 people!
 

Kneeza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,902
MalcSB said:
Drunken Wasps doing a poll on attendance for first game.

DrunkenWasps.com - Wasps

DrunkenWasps.com : Unofficial Wasps news, views and message boards.
www.rugbynetwork.net

Surely even they will get more than 15 people!
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If it goes ahead.
And I thought they were actually away for their first game?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,903
Kneeza said:
If it goes ahead.
And I thought they were actually away for their first game?
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I know nothing about Shugs but the forums main contributors are seemingly nomadic themselves. Some lived a lot abroad, couple from Scotland and some 70 plus age
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,904
Grendel said:
I know nothing about Shugs but the forums main contributors are seemingly nomadic themselves. Some lived a lot abroad, couple from Scotland and some 70 plus age
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Rugby Fwends.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,905
Nick said:
Rugby Fwends.
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Wonky Wasp as an example is an 83 year old woman
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,906
Kneeza said:
If it goes ahead.
And I thought they were actually away for their first game?
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They are. One wag suggested they ask Gloucester.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,907
Grendel said:
Wonky Wasp as an example is an 83 year old woman
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How do you know?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,908
fernandopartridge said:
How do you know?
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They do this weird bio on the other forum

Always a Wasp - Index

Always a Wasp - Index
onceawasp.com
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,909
Grendel said:
They do this weird bio on the other forum

Always a Wasp - Index

Always a Wasp - Index
onceawasp.com
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She's 85 now!

It is interesting, barely anybody on there actually from Coventry
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,910
That's some bio from Skippy.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,911
fernandopartridge said:
She's 85 now!

It is interesting, barely anybody on there actually from Coventry
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No and she didn’t seem to go to a game until 70 there’s a few like that.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,912
wingy said:
That's some bio from Skippy.
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I read it and thought it perfectly fitted my perception of Wasps and rugby fans in general.....management consultants who probably attend "Twickers"
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,913
Latest posts from bondholders forum:-


coley88

10 Aug '22 - 14:05 - 791 of 792
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We should all get together and foreclose - Anyone have the contact details of the Bond Trustee​
bigfish1
10 Aug '22 - 16:05 - 792 of 792
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Laurence Griffiths
laurence.griffiths@usbank.com
cc. CDRM@usbank.com
cc. chris.hobbs@usbank.com

US Bank Trustees Limited (in its capacity as Issuer Security Trustee) 125 Old Broad Street London EC2N 1AR

Actually as it turns out, we may all need to go through our brokers as most of us are actually 'beneficial owners' and not legal owners. Our bonds are held for us in trust by the broker.

Just to be clear, Wasps Finance and Wasps Hodings are insolvent, we know this because they have defaulted on the bond. The consent solicitation is a CVA (Company voluntary arrangements) whereby an insolvent company seeks to reach an agreement with its creditors to prevent itslef having to go into liquidation. As we know, it requires 75% of bondholders to agree to any arrangement. We all need to get in contact with our brokers and make sure they keep us informed and know our wishes. Personally, unless they come up with a very convincing plan for repayment in a fairly short space of time, I am for selling the arena/liquidation. The amount of money they have lost, since well before the pandemic is astonishing. They also have added a further 20 million loan from Derek Richardson and sold a stake (what stake?) to CVC for 12.5 million. It's all vanished, there's nothing left. Except the stadium, whatever that's worth.

Wasp Bondholders Facebook Group: https://www.-1358371174688144​
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,914
fernandopartridge said:
She's 85 now!

It is interesting, barely anybody on there actually from Coventry
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And this in itself is why they just don’t get the situation. They’ve been told one version of it and took it for gospel. They don’t know the history of it.

they’ll never understand why they’re despised by us
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 10, 2022
  • #5,915
MalcSB said:
Latest posts from bondholders forum:-


coley88

10 Aug '22 - 14:05 - 791 of 792
0 0 0
We should all get together and foreclose - Anyone have the contact details of the Bond Trustee​
bigfish1
10 Aug '22 - 16:05 - 792 of 792
0 0 0
Laurence Griffiths
laurence.griffiths@usbank.com
cc. CDRM@usbank.com
cc. chris.hobbs@usbank.com

US Bank Trustees Limited (in its capacity as Issuer Security Trustee) 125 Old Broad Street London EC2N 1AR

Actually as it turns out, we may all need to go through our brokers as most of us are actually 'beneficial owners' and not legal owners. Our bonds are held for us in trust by the broker.

Just to be clear, Wasps Finance and Wasps Hodings are insolvent, we know this because they have defaulted on the bond. The consent solicitation is a CVA (Company voluntary arrangements) whereby an insolvent company seeks to reach an agreement with its creditors to prevent itslef having to go into liquidation. As we know, it requires 75% of bondholders to agree to any arrangement. We all need to get in contact with our brokers and make sure they keep us informed and know our wishes. Personally, unless they come up with a very convincing plan for repayment in a fairly short space of time, I am for selling the arena/liquidation. The amount of money they have lost, since well before the pandemic is astonishing. They also have added a further 20 million loan from Derek Richardson and sold a stake (what stake?) to CVC for 12.5 million. It's all vanished, there's nothing left. Except the stadium, whatever that's worth.

Wasp Bondholders Facebook Group: https://www.-1358371174688144​
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What does that mean in English?
 
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