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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,356
Dubai-Dodger said:
Try again
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At a guess it’s AttentionSeekingPrick.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,357
Dubai-Dodger said:
Ultimately host cities / areas get a very good return from hosting the games. I’m not suggesting that’s directly related to CBS but the games are certainly a good investment for host cities.
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Care to enlighten us with how many millions of public money have been handed to Edgbaston, the NEC, Birmingham Arena, Cannock Chase, Victoria Park etc because as far as I can tell they haven't had a penny.

Maybe you can also tell us exactly why events couldn't be held at the CBS without millions of public money being handed over. As far as I can see events have been held regularly, including the Olympics, without issue.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,358
Dubai-Dodger said:
what businesses have been refused funding by WMCA ? … genuinely interested to know.
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That's ironic considering you don't appear to be 'genuinely interested to know' the last 8 years history that led us here...

Anywho, minutes from a YMCA (sic) finance meeting here. Interesting to see what they consider when reviewing an application. Though I can't seem to find any minutes from meetings since March, so that doesn't bode well for transparency...

https://governance.wmca.org.uk/documents/s6711/Minutes.pdf
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,359
Dubai-Dodger said:
perhaps they do feel they are special or perhaps they are a business applying for funding in a frame work or mechanism that makes that possible.
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I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who have their own business. Can you maybe tell them how they get over £5m of public money, with the potential for a further £13m for work on their premises.

Personally I'm not sure why the Commonwealth Games needs a Commonwealth Convention Centre, I thought it was a sporting event. Not really seeing the need for exhibition space. Its almost as if Wasps have just chucked the word Commonwealth in so people don't look too closely at the money they are getting and what its being spent on.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,360
chiefdave said:
Care to enlighten us with how many millions of public money have been handed to Edgbaston, the NEC, Birmingham Arena, Cannock Chase, Victoria Park etc because as far as I can tell they haven't had a penny.

Maybe you can also tell us exactly why events couldn't be held at the CBS without millions of public money being handed over. As far as I can see events have been held regularly, including the Olympics, without issue.
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Yeah but he will just reply asking to see the bank statements of the NEC.

He has no interest other than to try and dilute things.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,361
Dubai-Dodger said:
Have they asked for special treatment or to be treated as a special case ?
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You would have to be blind to not see that Wasps get special treatment. We've had representatives of this board meet with the council and plead with them to assist the football club only to essentially be told to go away yet when Wasps are yet again asking for money they're falling over themselves to help.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,362
chiefdave said:
We've had representatives of this board meet with the council and plead with them to assist the football club only to essentially be told to go away
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Are you shocked ? …. If the representation was from this board.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,363
Dubai-Dodger said:
Are you shocked ? …. If the representation was from this board.
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I am assuming you know nothing about it?

Shock horror.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,364
Dubai-Dodger said:
Are you shocked ? …. If the representation was from this board.
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Ah yes, you only respect the views of people who agree with you. You not 'genuinely interested to know' about posters meetings with SISU/Wasps/CCC then?...
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,365
chiefdave said:
Care to enlighten us with how many millions of public money have been handed to Edgbaston, the NEC, Birmingham Arena, Cannock Chase, Victoria Park etc because as far as I can tell they haven't had a penny.
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Do some research and you’ll soon see how much a host city usually benefit from hosting the games.
I’m not sure I said other arenas had been directly given money, but as often happens you like to suit your own narrative with out of context replies.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,366
Dubai-Dodger said:
Do some research and you’ll soon see how much a host city usually benefit from hosting the games.
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That doesn't answer the question.

Quick , try and move the goalposts.

Ironic really that you tell others to "do some research" when time and time again you know nothing about the situation.

How about you fuck off back to the Wasps forum with the other gimps with their fingers in their ears?
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,367
MusicDating said:
Ah yes, you only respect the views of people who agree with you. You not 'genuinely interested to know' about posters meetings with SISU/Wasps/CCC then?...
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I respect anyones views and happy to engage with anyonE who wants to be constructive.

The thing about disagreeing works both ways … just because I don’t sing the same song as everyone many don’t like it.

The problem here is that many jump on the bandwagon of insults and a pack mentality to impress their mates and get likes, which bleeds over those who have something constructive to offer.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,368
Dubai-Dodger said:
The thing about disagreeing works both ways … just because I don’t sing the same song as everyone many don’t like it.
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You aren't discussing things, you just have your fingers in your ears and try to move the goalposts when you get responses. You get asked if anybody else has public money from the WMCA and reply about money generated from hosting.

You have posted absolutely nothing constructive at all.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,369
Nick said:
That doesn't answer the question.

Quick , try and move the goalposts.

Ironic really that you tell others to "do some research" when time and time again you know nothing about the situation.

How about you fuck off back to the Wasps forum with the other gimps with their fingers in their ears?
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New report reveals Commonwealth Games consistently provides over £1 billion boost for host cities

A new report evaluating the benefits and costs of hosting the Commonwealth Games, which is the largest and most detailed analysis of the event in history, has revealed that staging the competition has consistently provided an economic boost of over £1 billion for previous host cities along with an a
thecgf.com

There you go …,. One of many articles.

I can’t make up my mind what is funnier …. Your posts or the fact that it winds you up so much that I post.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,370
Dubai-Dodger said:

New report reveals Commonwealth Games consistently provides over £1 billion boost for host cities

A new report evaluating the benefits and costs of hosting the Commonwealth Games, which is the largest and most detailed analysis of the event in history, has revealed that staging the competition has consistently provided an economic boost of over £1 billion for previous host cities along with an a
thecgf.com

There you go …,. One of many articles.

I can’t make up my mind what is funnier …. Your posts or the fact that it winds you up so much that I post.
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That doesn't answer the question you were asked, does it? The question wasn't "How much money does hosting the Commonwealth games bring in?".

Your fellow Wasps fans might be thick enough to fall for it though.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,371
It would be impossible to host the commonwealth games if the same stadium had a different owner.

Mouth breather.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,372
Nick said:
You have posted absolutely nothing constructive at all.
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pretty much sums up the majority of posts here with a few exceptions
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,373
Nick said:
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No worries, a few minutes with a belt sander should get that right off for them.

Failing that, there's always the angle grinder...
Dubai-Dodger said:

New report reveals Commonwealth Games consistently provides over £1 billion boost for host cities

A new report evaluating the benefits and costs of hosting the Commonwealth Games, which is the largest and most detailed analysis of the event in history, has revealed that staging the competition has consistently provided an economic boost of over £1 billion for previous host cities along with an a
thecgf.com

There you go …,. One of many articles.

I can’t make up my mind what is funnier …. Your posts or the fact that it winds you up so much that I post.
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Hmm. The report you're quoting about how much money the Commonwealth games brings in, is paid for by the people who run the commonwealth games!

Forgive my cynicism, but we've seen all this before with the Olympics. They're so profitable and beneficial to a city that these days they're struggling to find places to host them...

The Economics of Hosting the Olympic Games

The costs of hosting the Olympics have skyrocketed, while the economic benefits are far from clear. The 2024 Paris Olympics could be a test of whether reforms to the process have made hosting a bette…
www.cfr.org
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,374
Dubai-Dodger said:
pretty much sums up the majority of posts here with a few exceptions
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Answer the questions asked and actually figure out how to converse or fuck off. Simple as that really.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,375
Dubai-Dodger said:
Are you shocked ? …. If the representation was from this board.
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Actually despite the history I was quite shocked at the way the council reacted. They couldn't even manage a meaningless we'll do what we can, just complete dismissal while bending over backwards to help Wasps.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,376
Dubai-Dodger said:
Do some research and you’ll soon see how much a host city usually benefit from hosting the games.
I’m not sure I said other arenas had been directly given money, but as often happens you like to suit your own narrative with out of context replies.
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We're hardly hosting the Commonwealth Games, we're hosting a few events that are such money spinners for the local area the originally selected venues pulled out. The judo and wrestling were originally scheduled for the NEC and the Rugby 7s at Villa Park.

It takes seconds of looking at the link you posted to see its clearly nonsense. Or do you truly believe that the Commonwealth Games were solely responsible for a 23.5% drop in unemployment in Manchester and an 18% reduction in crime in Glasgow?

The question was solely about how much money has been given to other venues. Even if we assume that report you posted is correct that applies to all venues so surely all venues should get the same funding, why is it just Wasps that need to be handed millions?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,377
Dubai-Dodger said:
what businesses have been refused funding by WMCA ? … genuinely interested to know.
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Unfortunately I am not in a position to disclose that - just accept I know
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,378
Have they fucked off and dissolved yet?
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,379
Dubai-Dodger said:

New report reveals Commonwealth Games consistently provides over £1 billion boost for host cities

A new report evaluating the benefits and costs of hosting the Commonwealth Games, which is the largest and most detailed analysis of the event in history, has revealed that staging the competition has consistently provided an economic boost of over £1 billion for previous host cities along with an a
thecgf.com

There you go …,. One of many articles.

I can’t make up my mind what is funnier …. Your posts or the fact that it winds you up so much that I post.
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Hosting? There is about a week's judo and wrestling plus some 7 aside on an unused pitch

Don't the Game's organisers also pay to use the facilities?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,380
Tommo1993 said:
Have they fucked off and dissolved yet?
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If that happened Reeves and CCC would be gone. So self preservation will kick in- unless a miracle arrives
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,381
Dubai-Dodger said:
The problem here is that many jump on the bandwagon of insults and a pack mentality to impress their mates and get likes, which bleeds over those who have something constructive to offer.
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You really are deluded. No one is posting for likes. We're posting because a substantial percentage of people here hate Wasps and can't wait until the day they go bust.

It may not be for while yet but it will happen. And a lot of people will raise a glass and celebrate that.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,382
ccfcchris said:
You really are deluded. No one is posting for likes. We're posting because a substantial percentage of people here hate Wasps and can't wait until the day they go bust.

It may not be for while yet but it will happen. And a lot of people will raise a glass and celebrate that.
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in truth it would be better if they carried on bleeding money and we remained on the sub lease for as long as we can
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,383
Grendel said:
in truth it would be better if they carried on bleeding money and we remained on the sub lease for as long as we can
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Would it though? I know the council are tossers, but If wasps were to go tits up, I can’t imagine there’s a queue of sports teams willing to by a loss making stadium in the arse end of Coventry?

Wouldn’t they be more reasonable to the club?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,384
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Would it though? I know the council are tossers, but If wasps were to go tits up, I can’t imagine there’s a queue of sports teams willing to by a loss making stadium in the arse end of Coventry?

Wouldn’t they be more reasonable to the club?
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both clubs would remain anyway
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,385
Grendel said:
both clubs would remain anyway
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Even if wasps were to go pop?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,386
Dubai-Dodger - Proof that huffing farts and drinking piss with pubes in is not good for you.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,387
Bond Trustee on ADVFN he is acting on own discretion to not call in the loans from WASPs

Would take 25% of Bonds to change that
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,388
oldfiver said:
Bond Trustee on ADVFN he is acting on own discretion to not call in the loans from WASPs

Would take 25% of Bonds to change that
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He's also asking who bought all the bonds cheaply which has made them go up in price before going into default
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,389
oldfiver said:
Bond Trustee on ADVFN he is acting on own discretion to not call in the loans from WASPs

Would take 25% of Bonds to change that
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OF, in layman's terms, what does this mean!?
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OK... if I understand correctly, if holders worth 25% of the full amount owed decide, they can call for immediate payment.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #5,390
I really hope this is SISU
 
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