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usskyblue

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #666
Evo1883 said:
I doubt I would be too if I was in the US, it wasn't the point though , it was in jest
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I’m shocked he didn’t declare that Godden’s penalties don’t count
 

Tommo1993

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #667
Grendel said:
sorry Richard Keogh
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Was beginning to think Martin Keown had a bang on the head and spelt his name wrong.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #668
usskyblue said:
I’m shocked he didn’t declare that Godden’s penalties don’t count
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I cannot be bothered to go back through, but I actually think he did somewhere. At the very least it was made reference to.
 

Frostie

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #669
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I cannot be bothered to go back through, but I actually think he did somewhere. At the very least it was made reference to.
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Well, penalties shouldn't be included really & it should be done based on minutes or per 90 if you really want to compare like for like.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #670
Frostie said:
Well, penalties shouldn't be included really & it should be done based on minutes or per 90 if you really want to compare like for like.
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Oh dear. Me and Grendel were ridiculed for suggesting penalties shouldn’t be included
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #671
Championship:
Walker - 287 mins per goal
Godden - 172 mins per goal


League one:
Walker - 204 mins per goal
Godden - 175 mins per goal.


Godden is the better goalscorer by some distance.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #672
PVA said:
Championship:
Walker - 287 mins per goal
Godden - 172 mins per goal


League one:
Walker - 204 mins per goal
Godden - 175 mins per goal.


Godden is the better goalscorer by some distance.
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So now you think robins is clueless wow
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #673
Evo1883 said:
I don't care after all .. walker isn't here because his workrate and attitude don't fit .. and it also doesn't fit at pompey ..

So is it coventry that need to change or Tyler walker ?

I'd suggest the latter
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It's more because to make sufficient headroom in the budget he was really the only player that could go out that anybody would take
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #674
Frostie said:
Well, penalties shouldn't be included really & it should be done based on minutes or per 90 if you really want to compare like for like.
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #675
PVA said:
Championship:
Walker - 287 mins per goal
Godden - 172 mins per goal


League one:
Walker - 204 mins per goal
Godden - 175 mins per goal.


Godden is the better goalscorer by some distance.
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It's absolutely clear.

Godden is also a far better all round player. The real problem is that Walker can't hold the ball up or pass it effectively. Unless he addresses those deficiencies he won't make it at Championship level. The only thing he has that Godden doesn't is pace, but to date he has made very little use of that with us.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #676
fernandopartridge said:
It's more because to make sufficient headroom in the budget he was really the only player that could go out that anybody would take
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Well no, Shipley was due to leave for a fee and because he scored against QPR we kept him. Then went back to deciding he wasn’t up to it.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #677
Wonder if the amount of penalties that Gary McAllister scored makes him less of a classy player. Even though he’s a midfielder. The “penalties don’t count” thing is bullshit.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #678
Grendel said:
So now you think robins is clueless wow
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My god you're an idiot.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #679
Tommo1993 said:
Wonder if the amount of penalties that Gary McAllister scored makes him less of a classy player. Even though he’s a midfielder. The “penalties don’t count” thing is bullshit.
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I mean it really does matter when you are comparing 2 strikers. Why wouldn’t you discount penalty goals when one takes penalties and the other doesnt.

It’s like comparing Kane’s output to dabo. Kane’s output looked significantly better when he was taking set pieces.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #680
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well no, Shipley was due to leave for a fee and because he scored against QPR we kept him. Then went back to deciding he wasn’t up to it.
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Well yes given Walker will be on a much larger salary than Shipley and Shipley at that point was covering left wing back due to injury
 

better days

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #681
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not in the 11 I would think that’s Kane at the time
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Definitely not Kane
He was virtually forced out of QPR & we were able to drive a hard bargain
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #682
Tommo1993 said:
Wonder if the amount of penalties that Gary McAllister scored makes him less of a classy player. Even though he’s a midfielder. The “penalties don’t count” thing is bullshit.
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Do you think ray Stewart who scored 80 plus goals for West Ham in 400 games was a prolific goal scorer?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #683
fernandopartridge said:
Well yes given Walker will be on a much larger salary than Shipley and Shipley at that point was covering left wing back due to injury
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A 6 figure fee on top for Shipley probably makes up the difference.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #684
better days said:
Definitely not Kane
He was virtually forced out of QPR & we were able to drive a hard bargain
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Good Cus he’s really not that great. I’d be looking to move him on
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #685
PVA said:
My god you're an idiot.
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Robins wanted to sign Walker ahead of Godden and then signed him anyway when the chance came for a higher fee.

Poor judgement in your view?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #686
Grendel said:
Do you think ray Stewart who scored 80 plus goals for West Ham in 400 games was a prolific goal scorer?
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Where are we heading with this one?
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #687
Grendel said:
Do you think ray Stewart who scored 80 plus goals for West Ham in 400 games was a prolific goal scorer?
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Nice topical reference there, a bloke who left West Ham 31 years ago
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #688
PVA said:
Nice topical reference there, a bloke who left West Ham 31 years ago
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answer?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #689
Tommo1993 said:
Where are we heading with this one?
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He scored every goal but 6 from the penalty spot
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #690
Grendel said:
answer?
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What are your thoughts on James Bidgen who played for West Ham between 1901 and 1904? Because I'm sure he's very relevant to the Godden v Walker debate.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #691
PVA said:
What are your thoughts on James Bidgen who played for West Ham between 1901 and 1904? Because I'm sure he's very relevant to the Godden v Walker debate.
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oh dear
 
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usskyblue

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #692
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #693
usskyblue said:
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Is that Ray Stewart?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #694
PVA said:
Is that Ray Stewart?
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no he’s not taking penalties
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #695
Tommo1993 said:
Wonder if the amount of penalties that Gary McAllister scored makes him less of a classy player. Even though he’s a midfielder. The “penalties don’t count” thing is bullshit.
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I don't think anyone is saying they "don't count" but if you want to make a genuine like for like comparison it is best practice to omit them. One player having significantly more free shots at goal with an almost 80% probability of scoring will naturally skew the numbers.
By all means look at their penalty records separately
 
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fatso

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  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #696
Grendel said:
Robins wanted to sign Walker ahead of Godden and then signed him anyway when the chance came for a higher fee.

Poor judgement in your view?
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Very poor judgement, MR has a great track record, but Walker is one he got wrong, and it hasn't helped that Walker is a fucking lazy c**t.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #697
Frostie said:
I don't think anyone is saying they "don't count" but if you want to make a genuine like for like comparison it is best practice to omit them. One player having significantly more free shots at goal with an almost 80% probability of scoring will naturally skew the numbers.
By all means look at their penalty records separately
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The fact that Godden is more trusted to hit the back of the net from 12 yards out shouldn't be used against him.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #698
PVA said:
The fact that Godden is more trusted to hit the back of the net from 12 yards out shouldn't be used against him.
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only though in this century
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #699
fatso said:
Very poor judgement, MR has a great track record, but Walker is one he got wrong, and it hasn't helped that Walker is a fucking lazy c**t.
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To be fair Walker seemed a sensible signing. He was young and proven at L1/L2 level and a fair amount of experience at Champ level. There was every chance he developed and became a more valuable and valued asset.

In that respect he ticked all the boxes.

For whatever reason, it’s not been a good move for either party.

We took a calculated risk.

Other signings have been “bad judgement” IMO. Waghorn at 31 and no other big striker in the club: bad judgement. Several European players who we don’t seem to have looked at properly: bad judgement.
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2022
  • #700
I thought at the time that Walker was the right signing but for one reason or another he just didn’t do enough. I think covid and the long term effects of that might have played a big part in why he has gone backwards this season. Can’t really see anyone wanting him next season.


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