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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #316
Onto a slightly different argument, was vik better with waghorn ?
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #317
Evo1883 said:
Onto a slightly different argument, was vik better with waghorn ?
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Yes.

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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #318
Grendel said:
we don’t keep losing with Walker in team and have won plenty when Godden isn’t in the team?
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The main argument with Walker is that the odd goal isn't enough to compensate for his lack of workrate which benefits the whole team ..

His 2 goals clearly aren't enough to keep him in the team , and the answer is surely that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #319
PVA said:
Sorry I didn't mean in relation to the midfield, but I meant if the subs don't make an impact is it on Robins for the wrong changes or the subs themselves for not doing as they're instructed.
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Would have to hear what Robins said they were brought on for. Don’t need to rake him over the coals, he’s got it wrong twice in a week and hopefully he learns.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #320
Evo1883 said:
We'd have lost yesterday without goddens goal , what on earth.

Godden had a hand in 3 goals v fulham ..

What's the point
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Your point seemed to be Walker’s goal at PNE doesn’t matter because we lost
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #321
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Your point seemed to be Walker’s goal at PNE doesn’t matter because we lost
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same as Dublin’s hat trick at Sheffield Wednesday then
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #322
Deleted member 9744 said:
But it doesn't suit his argument in this case anyway.
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As he said GPM from open play it does.

Basically it's like him dismissing Biamou's goals because of opposition/penalties/not being headers/Jupiter rising in Sagittarius
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #323
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Your point seemed to be Walker’s goal at PNE doesn’t matter because we lost
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My main point is actually we are a better overall team when Walker doesn't start Irrespective of his goal
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #324
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
As he said GPM from open play it does.

Basically it's like him dismissing Biamou's goals because of opposition/penalties/not being headers/Jupiter rising in Sagittarius
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Er no tbe bbc gpm stats don’t include a fair few of his goals?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #325
slowpoke said:
Seen the last three matches Walker has played bit of an enigma scored two cracking goals at Blackburn and Preston but offered little else
In my opinion the movement of Matty Godden off the ball makes him the better player for us the way we move the ball around.
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If Walker could bring himself to do a bit more closing down etc he'd be in the team because his finishing is very good.

Still think it was harsh to drop someone who'd scored two in two.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #326
Evo1883 said:
My main point is actually we are a better overall team when Walker doesn't start
Irrespective of his goal
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To be honest though, all of goddens goals have been at home where we are good and both of walkers away from home where we're shite. So your point doesn't really stand.

I dont think walker has started a home game, and actually hasn't played many minutes from the sub bench either.

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COV

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #327
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Rose is dropped from the squad when he wasn’t at fault for either PNE goal and Walker is dropped for scoring twice. Not sure what message that sends out to the rest.
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This is just pure speculation that players are going around sullen & pissed off, does the team spirit look lacking, are any players looking demoralised? If we go down that route we’re saying that Robins is a poor man manager, which involves more than just telling people they’re playing/ not playing

And anyway the other argument to it is that they all know they don’t have automatic starts, which is healthy
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #328
We might even be a better overall team without godden and walker , as I alluded to In my waghorn vik comment .

Nobody realy replied to that apart from stu
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #329
stupot07 said:
To be honest though, all of goddens goals have been at home where we are good and both of walkers away from home where we're shite. So your point doesn't really stand.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #330
COV said:
This is just pure speculation that players are going around sullen & pissed off, does the team spirit look lacking, are any players looking demoralised? If we go down that route we’re saying that Robins is a poor man manager, which involves more than just telling people they’re playing/ not playing

And anyway the other argument to it is that they all know they don’t have automatic starts, which is healthy
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I didn’t say that actually, I’m just thinking how it might look to those in the squad for the only other recognised CB to be dropped completely for not having been all that poor
 

hill83

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #331
Apparently he’s a fucking useless lazy twat who is stealing a living and needs to fuck off I heard.
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #332
Evo1883 said:
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I've just looked Godden has literally played

29 mins against qpr came on 0-0 lost 2-0 (as did walker)
82 mins away at Millwall 1-1



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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #333
hill83 said:
Apparently he’s a fucking useless lazy twat who is stealing a living and needs to fuck off I heard.
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Might be something in your lazy comment tbh ..
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #334
stupot07 said:
I've just looked Godden has literally played

29 mins against qpr came on 0-0 lost 2-0 (as did walker)
82 mins away at Millwall 1-1



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We've already established godden and Walker no good together , same as yesterday happened at QPR , we lost the ability to hold the ball up .
 

hill83

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #335
Evo1883 said:
We've already established godden and Walker no good together , same as yesterday happened at QPR , we lost the ability to hold the ball up .
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They both want to make the same run as well. Happened a couple of times. One almost looked choreographed.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #336
I don't dislike Walker, he's like many players over the years, talented , good finisher but my god WORK!!!!!

He could have it all
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #337
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Rose is dropped from the squad when he wasn’t at fault for either PNE goal and Walker is dropped for scoring twice. Not sure what message that sends out to the rest.
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something has to of gone on with Rose, otherwise to not have him on the bench is a bizarre decision.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #338
clint van damme said:
something has to of gone on with Rose, otherwise to not have him on the bench is a bizarre decision.
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I don’t buy his argument of wanting more attacking options on the bench, I’m sure Jones and a CB have been there this season plenty of times.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #339
Watch now he will start Walker at Hull
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #340
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t buy his argument of wanting more attacking options on the bench, I’m sure Jones and a CB have been there this season plenty of times.
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fairly sure we've always had a CB on the bench every game up until yesterday, (sadly I'm now going to go and check), that's why I think yesterday was down to some sort of fall out.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #341
Evo1883 said:
Watch now he will start Walker at Hull
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Think it’ll be the side we went with at Blackpool, least I hope it is
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #342
clint van damme said:
fairly sure we've always had a CB on the bench every game up until yesterday, (sadly I'm now going to go and check), that's why I think yesterday was down to some sort of fall out.
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Rose , rightly or wrongly hasn't really been in favour either side of his Injury since we've been in this league .

Maybe he's had enough
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #343
Evo1883 said:
I don't dislike Walker, he's like many players over the years, talented , good finisher but my god WORK!!!!!

He could have it all
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MR has signed a couple like that with Walker and Chaplin.

We were told both times that they were the kind of players that need a strike partner to do the donkey work, but give them a chance and they'll likely finish it.

Given we were made aware that neither of them were renowned for 'putting a shift in' surely this must have been flagged up in the scouting.

MR spent ages pursuing both and paying a decent fee for both, only to then not favour them because they don't work hard enough. So why sign them in the first place?

If he thought he could add that element into their game perhaps he ought to look at his success at doing so.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #344
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think it’ll be the side we went with at Blackpool, least I hope it is
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Well I, like most of us have been waiting for the box to return away from home , which ironically produced our best away performance at blackpool
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #345
Think all 4 strikers can play their part but it needs to be walker or godden alongside gyok or wags. They r shit together
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #346
Evo1883 said:
Rose , rightly or wrongly hasn't really been in favour either side of his Injury since we've been in this league .

Maybe he's had enough
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Perhaps he said ‘start me or don’t bother’ and Robins called his bluff. Would have looked really silly if Dabo ended up at CB
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #347
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
MR has signed a couple like that with Walker and Chaplin.

We were told both times that they were the kind of players that need a strike partner to do the donkey work, but give them a chance and they'll likely finish it.

Given we were made aware that neither of them were renowned for 'putting a shift in' surely this must have been flagged up in the scouting.

MR spent ages pursuing both and paying a decent fee for both, only to then not favour them because they don't work hard enough. So why sign them in the first place?

If he thought he could add that element into their game perhaps he ought to look at his success at doing so.
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chaplin was a very hard worker who spent most of his time in midfield
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #348
Grendel said:
chaplin was a very hard worker who spent most of his time in midfield
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Yea he did work hard
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #349
Can we just agree that Gyokeres is the main man, and the other 3 are equally shit!
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #350
Walker will score some goals though , there's no argument from me with that .

Robins Viveash and Lawrence train these players , you'd imagine there is a rational explanation .. as it won't be his finishing will it
 
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