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Waghorn Rumour (1 Viewer)

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COV

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #36
SleepyGinger said:
Don’t think he’s the type of striker we need. Similar to godden and Walker, finishers who need chances created for them. Need some other options.
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"finishers who need chances created for them"

is there any other type of finisher?
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #37
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Is this a strong rumour we’re signing him?
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if cc84cov sees something in it then bet your house on it
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #38
shmmeee said:
Well no because not every player is let go.

I just don’t rate him. Not a foil, not a goal scorer. Just don’t see the point.
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He reminds me of a left footed Freddie Eastwood lol
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #39
COV said:
"finishers who need chances created for them"

is there any other type of finisher?
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A mobile target man is what we need
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #40
shmmeee said:
Well no because not every player is let go.

I just don’t rate him. Not a foil, not a goal scorer. Just don’t see the point.
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When he plays a full season he averages double figures in this league and assists too?

Stats aren't that bad really

 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #41
Once he’s confirmed I’ll be calling him “waggy”
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #42
Nick said:
When he plays a full season he averages double figures in this league and assists too?
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So would the two strikers we’ve got and they’re both younger and cheaper and known quantities.

He’s averaged 1 in 4 goals and 1 in 10 assists at Derby across his career.

What would you do? Play him with Walker?
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #43
shmmeee said:
So would the two strikers we’ve got and they’re both younger and cheaper and known quantities.

He’s averaged 1 in 4 goals and 1 in 10 assists at Derby across his career.

What would you do? Play him with Walker?
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Unless either Godden or walker are leaving ?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #44
shmmeee said:
No thanks. Wrong age, wrong sort of striker, would want too much, too poor to be kept by a team that finished below us.
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I don’t think he’d be an automatic starter. Tyler Walker, Godden and Waghorn would certainly be an improvement to what we had last season.

Last season was a disappointment for him, but his record in the Championship is generally quite good.

We definitely need some more Championship experience in the right areas. Therefore, it’s not a bad signing at all.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #45
shmmeee said:
So would the two strikers we’ve got and they’re both younger and cheaper and known quantities.

He’s averaged 1 in 4 goals and 1 in 10 assists at Derby across his career.

What would you do? Play him with Walker?
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Neither of them are known in the Championship though?

I'd happily have him and Walker up front. Much better than Biamou on his own.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #46
Can somebody post his you tube clips so we can get really excited
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #47
Wouldn't be very pleased with this one.

Presumably on high wages and looks a bit past it now.

Happy to be proven wrong though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #48
PVA said:
Presumably on high wages and looks a bit past it now.
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The bit past it would negate the high wages, surely?

Also, being released by Derby probably isn't peak wage negotiating point, and it's not like he's ever been a massive 'name' is it?
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #49
I love it when half of the forum writes off a player without seeing him play for us. Have we not learnt that previous clubs and how they played there, doesn't necessarily have a bearing on how they'll do here?

By and large, MR and his team have done well in the recruitment stakes.

And people mentioning his age at 31 like he's some sort of geriatric. You can get 2-3 good years out of a striker at that age. Especially if he's up top with Walker (a few years away from his peak) or Godden (bar injury, should be at his peak now).

Some of the comments on here are laughable! Waghorn would be great signing for us, given our restrictions etc.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #50
COV said:
"finishers who need chances created for them"

is there any other type of finisher?
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My point is they are all similar players, not going to give us a lot in a game where we are defending for 90 minutes and need to go long or need someone to carry the ball up the pitch.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #51
Just seems very journeyman. Sort of signing all kinds of non descript mid table clubs make. The sort that leads to other fans asking how on Earth their wage bill is £30m/year and they’re so shit.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #52
I get the concern about wages but surely we'd only sign if the deal was right for us.

We're hardly in a position to roll over and match is wage at Derby.
 
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CDK

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #53
He's better than what's been moved on,hard working player and would be a good addition.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #54
Skyblueweeman said:
Have we not learnt that previous clubs and how they played there, doesn't necessarily have a bearing on how they'll do here?
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It obviously has an indication, though! Not like Messi and Neil Wood were interchangeable, and if only Wood had got his opportunity at Barcelona...
 

edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #55
This would make more sense to me if we were cashing in on Godden.

People saying he's better than Biamou/Baka..... yes but they are not the same type of player. Waghorn isn't the man to be receiving and protecting balls chest/head height from our back 3 - like we saw last season after we worked out we couldn't play out from the back as much as we wanted to.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #56
shmmeee said:
Just seems very journeyman. Sort of signing all kinds of non descript mid table clubs make. The sort that leads to other fans asking how on Earth their wage bill is £30m/year and they’re so shit.
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Fucking hell, I'd love to be a non descript mid table club this season
 
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blunted

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #57
I suppose if you are going for a striker it is going to be really difficult to get anyone who is even as good as Godden and Walker without spending big money. As a guess the Waghorn rumour may have legs. No fee, probably biggish wages along with a young loan striker from the Prem for the other spot. 31 used be game over years ago but these days he could have 4 or more years left depending on fitness.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #58
Redirect Notice

Someone tell Schmmeee
 

better days

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #59
Greggs said:
We're going down
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You're a very naughty boy
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #60
Skyblueweeman said:
I love it when half of the forum writes off a player without seeing him play for us. Have we not learnt that previous clubs and how they played there, doesn't necessarily have a bearing on how they'll do here?

By and large, MR and his team have done well in the recruitment stakes.

And people mentioning his age at 31 like he's some sort of geriatric. You can get 2-3 good years out of a striker at that age. Especially if he's up top with Walker (a few years away from his peak) or Godden (bar injury, should be at his peak now).

Some of the comments on here are laughable! Waghorn would be great signing for us, given our restrictions etc.
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Whilst I get your overall point you can't say that people shouldn't write him off without seeing him play for us, then say he'll be a great signing without seeing him play for us.
 
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eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #61
For me It will depend on wages we're offering. I've always thought he looked a decent player whenever he's been against us or on telly. If he's on a reasonable wage rather than some sky high amount then i'm ok with it.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #62
Even is he is on a wedge who cares. They know the budget and will use it accordingly.
If he scores 20* next season but is on 20K you aren't allowed to celebrate any of his goals.

*definitely happening
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #63
cc84cov said:
Can somebody post his you tube clips so we can get really excited
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #64
hill83 said:
Even is he is on a wedge who cares. They know the budget and will use it accordingly.
If he scores 20* next season but is on 20K you aren't allowed to celebrate any of his goals.

*definitely happening
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This is my view. Really unsure why people are getting so worked up over wages. If his contact demands fit within the budget then great. If they don't, he more than likely won't sign.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #65
Goes to show that those who bleat on about ‘the model’ and signings are clueless.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #66
If he signs I doubt we will keep both Godden and Walker
 
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better days

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  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #67
Grendel said:
If he signs I doubt we will keep both Godden and Walker
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Neither were particularly resilient last season
Hopefully it will have been a one-off but we'd be irresponsible to just rely on those two again
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #68
Grendel said:
If he signs I doubt we will keep both Godden and Walker
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Yep said this myself earlier I think one will go
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #69
Grendel said:
If he signs I doubt we will keep both Godden and Walker
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Keep Walker.

I'd prefer to keep both though. Can we keep both please Grendel?
 

larry_david

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 25, 2021
  • #70
Godden I'm afraid is going to be unreliable. That foot injury sounds like it's always going to be there. Walker should come on leaps and bounds from last season though
 
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