Waggot - We will only get £67,500 from JPT Ticket Sales (3 Viewers)

GaryJones · Jan 30, 2013

Waggot has told CET that out of the £150,000 gate receipts from JPT the agreement is that The Football League get 10% (£15,000) and the £135,000 MUST be split between the 2 clubs equally (£67,500 each).
Nice payday for anyone playing us seeing as the average gates for most other teams in this trophy have only been around 2,500.

kg82 · Jan 30, 2013

Including the the away leg could be about £100k in all. Not that bad really.

Walking Bird · Jan 30, 2013

So about a month's rent then..

Moff · Jan 30, 2013

Waggott is being a little short sighted.............or deliberately playing dumb, as what he forgets to add is that if we win the Northern Final and get to Wembley, that brings in itself extra revenue, but also may bring back some of our missing fans, or even generate a new generation of younger fans instead of them supporting one of the premiership glory supporter teams, which iteslf will generate more income.

lordsummerisle · Jan 30, 2013

Was the strictly legal "advice" on getting GOT any uses to you Moff?

Warwickhunt · Jan 30, 2013

do we not take out our costs/expenses first before the divvie up?

Moff · Jan 30, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Was the strictly legal "advice" on getting GOT any uses to you Moff?

Sorry m'lord, I thought i had sent my thanks and tugged my fetlock accordingly, but it appears not.

Much appreciated and sorry for being a disorganised tw*t

lordsummerisle · Jan 30, 2013

Moff said:
Sorry m'lord, I thought i had sent my thanks and tugged my fetlock accordingly, but it appears not.

Much appreciated and sorry for being a disorganised tw*t

Not a problem, more the messaging on here disorganised than yourself I'd have thought!

Bennosdancingfeet · Jan 30, 2013

also forgot to include the thousands we will make in club shop pre-game.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 30, 2013

Warwickhunt said:
do we not take out our costs/expenses first before the divvie up?

Such as the rent we don't pay?

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Jan 30, 2013

The biggest opportunity here isn't the gate on the night, per se; but the huge crowd that's destined to arrive. To that end, it's incumbent on the club - both on and off the field - to operate to the best of their ability; to hold onto as many of those fans as possible for the hopeful play-offs run-in

Skyblue4u · Jan 30, 2013

He also forgot to add the money from all the other JPT games we played and from Sky for the Preston game. Sounds like a nice little earner to me that will go someway to balancing the books this season or will it end up in SISU's back pocket?

Paxman II · Jan 30, 2013

...and if they had done a deal on the revenue share from all the concessions by now then a 30k crowd would have produced perhaps a 100k on the night too! Some decision making has been poor from them. This revenue stream is set to get higher with larger attendances as we reach the play offs too with potentially a couple more 30k+ crowds? Are they on this alone not missing on a few hundred K? Well I never...

Oh and playoff money from Sky too.

SBS · Jan 30, 2013

Also worth remembering the same splitting of gate receipts from Tottenham and Arsenal

ashbyjan · Jan 30, 2013

Wish people would stop going on about SISU putting money in their back pocket etc - at the end of the day this club is losing money every month even without paying rent so any money made will simply lessen the amount SISU have to put in to keep us going for another month.

The statement from Waggott is a bit pointless as it was CCFC who set the ticket price at £5 so they knew what revenue they could expect (I am assuming they had read the rules of the competition) but also didn't see Waggott complaining that we only got around £250,000 from the Arsenal game and around £200,000 from the Spurs game. And if we get to Wembley that will bring a pretty penny too.

Mucca Mad Boys · Jan 30, 2013

ashbyjan said:
Wish people would stop going on about SISU putting money in their back pocket etc - at the end of the day this club is losing money every month even without paying rent so any money made will simply lessen the amount SISU have to put in to keep us going for another month.

The statement from Waggott is a bit pointless as it was CCFC who set the ticket price at £5 so they knew what revenue they could expect (I am assuming they had read the rules of the competition) but also didn't see Waggott complaining that we only got around £250,000 from the Arsenal game and around £200,000 from the Spurs game. And if we get to Wembley that will bring a pretty penny too.

I was surprised you actually somewhat defended SISU

It evens itself out I suppose, but, in fairness to Waggott, we took sizeable followings to Arsenal + Spurs whereas Crewe, are taking an embarrassing support, well, for a semi-final.

Nick · Jan 30, 2013

They should get less if they don't sell all of their tickets for the game. Fair enough if they sell out their allowance but when they hardly sell any is it still fair to give them so much of a share?

The same as if we had taken 400 to Spurs and Arsenal.

skybluesam66 · Jan 30, 2013

chesterfield earned £1m from wembley in jpt last year

dongonzalos · Jan 30, 2013

Walking Bird said:
So about a month's rent then..

No total profit, we don't pay our debts.

ashbyjan · Jan 30, 2013

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
I was surprised you actually somewhat defended SISU

It evens itself out I suppose, but, in fairness to Waggott, we took sizeable followings to Arsenal + Spurs whereas Crewe, are taking an embarrassing support, well, for a semi-final.

I have no particular love for SISU simply because I feel they have made an appalling job of running the club I love, but to be fair no worse than all the previous owners over the past 25 years. It is a fact that they have lost millions by getting themselves involved with the club and making a pigs ear of running it but its incorrect when people go on about SISU asset stripping or taking money out of the club. I would actually have been quite happy if the club had been run so well and been so successful that they had been in a position to take money out but sadly they have squandered millions with one bad decision after another.

dongonzalos · Jan 30, 2013

I read fishers comments.

He basically said we knew the rules went we entered the competition.
Yes we would prefer to get all of it.

However when we have gone to bigger teams in cup matches we have profited.

To be fair to him and I don't say this very often. He was very reasonable in his comments.

covcity4life · Jan 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
I read fishers comments.

He basically said we knew the rules went we entered the competition.
Yes we would prefer to get all of it.

However when we have gone to bigger teams in cup matches we have profited.

To be fair to him and I don't say this very often. He was very reasonable in his comments.

quoted for truth

lordsummerisle · Jan 30, 2013

If tickets had been £10 or £15 it would have been robbing Sisu bastards from everybody, and certainly a lot less tickets sold, though maybe no change in actual number of attendees...

WillieStanley · Jan 30, 2013

Was it a pointless quote or answer to a pointless question?

dongonzalos · Jan 30, 2013

covcity4life said:
quoted for truth

Tim Fisher, Chief Executive of Coventry City, said: “We were fully aware of the rules of the competition when we first entered.

“We would – in an ideal world – like to keep every penny from every game but sadly we can’t!

“We also have to remember that at times – when we play at bigger clubs in other competitions - we can benefit disproportionately.

“We are just delighted that City supporters have reacted so positively and that we will have such great support on the night.”

Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2013/01/30/mark-robins-let-s-make-trophy-final-a-night-to-remember-92746-32709360/#ixzz2JThUgTpq

Ashdown1 · Jan 30, 2013

corporate and parking is also extra.

Stafford_SkBlue · Jan 30, 2013

GaryJones said:
Waggot has told CET that out of the £150,000 gate receipts from JPT the agreement is that The Football League get 10% (£15,000) and the £135,000 MUST be split between the 2 clubs equally (£67,500 each).
Nice payday for anyone playing us seeing as the average gates for most other teams in this trophy have only been around 2,500.

Oh dear I hope we not relying on Waggot as our financial man!!
The rules state that it is 45% per club after expenses.

more importantly 20% has to be paid to the Customs and Excise for VAT (perhaps we not paying them either).
So 30,000 x £5 = £150,000
less VAT 30,000 x 0.83 = £24,900 (Tickets are actually £4.17+vat = £5.00)
less expenses - stewards, policing, away team travelling and overnight accommodation = say £12,000 (guessing here).
This leaves £113,100 x0.45 = £50,895

Still nice payday especially for Crewe.

I think they may be regretting fixing it at a fiver where a tenner may have produced a 25k crowd and hence more income.

Stevec189 · Jan 30, 2013

Stafford_SkBlue said:
Oh dear I hope we not relying on Waggot as our financial man!!
The rules state that it is 45% per club after expenses.

more importantly 20% has to be paid to the Customs and Excise for VAT (perhaps we not paying them either).
So 30,000 x £5 = £150,000
less VAT 30,000 x 0.83 = £24,900 (Tickets are actually £4.17+vat = £5.00)
less expenses - stewards, policing, away team travelling and overnight accommodation = say £12,000 (guessing here).
This leaves £113,100 x0.45 = £50,895

Still nice payday especially for Crewe.

I think they may be regretting fixing it at a fiver where a tenner may have produced a 25k crowd and hence more income.

Hope we are not relying on yours either 45 +45+10 is 100%. You have made the classic mistake of mixing up different methods of counting. Pity since your other maths appears correct. I would have thought it was split and then expenses taken out.i.e Crewe pay for their travel and expenses and we pay for ours. Don't know though! Still better than a slap on the face with a wet fish as my Mum used to say! PUSB

Tonylinc · Jan 30, 2013

Your all missing the point here.....this is a game which provides CCFC with an opportunity of expanding its core support. Many of the people attending this game will either lapsed or non supporters. Hopefully, a good display coupled with a win will bring them back or convert them. The pricing at £5.00 is therefore an investment in the future.

Stevec189 · Jan 30, 2013

The £5 fee makes it affordable for families to come which has to be a good thing. Football has drifted to far from normal working people but when you price at this level people will come. However you couldn't run the business' on those numbers. Or could you? Need to think about it......

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