grown men who a) call a team "manure" and b) hate a team for being successful even though that team does give a fuck about us are very confusing.
Also Liverpool the club and it's fans are far worse
It's not about hating a team because they're successful. For me, it was more that growing up as a teen in the early 90s at school, all my mates were Utd fans and were insufferable. The derision directed to me as a Cov fan whilst they were cleaning up all the trophies, truly p!ssed me off.
I'm loving this implosion they've been having over the last few years as I can just imagine how those school friends are feeling seeing numerous other clubs win silverware whilst they plummet down the table and fall apart off the pitch. It's a sort of 'karma' like feeling I guess.
I've never called them manure either (but I know that wasn't directed at me) - that's playground stuff.
As for Liverpool, I was a fan of there's before switching to follow my Kenilworth born step-dad in the mid-80s so I don't mind them. I know a few scousers and they're decent folk as well.